Ziad wrote:I agree with six, very well written mate.
I wish I had a few more acres... but 6acres would hardly justify getting a cat C firearm .... makes me sad , makes my wife happy.... so happy wife happy life.. or so some say.
Again I can't really see any reason apart from novelty that a semi auto be better... or is the issue more so that of why can't we have them, just cuz we should as we are law abiding firearm users. Lol
Sounds moderators, would on the other hand truly be a beneficial thing to any firearm owner.
sungazer wrote:For Primary Production you don't need to be over any limit. The 20 Grand threshold is if you have a second income that you would like to claim primary production losses against. Without the 20k you can continue to carry forward your primary production deductions/losses many years worth until your primary production income/turnover is above 20k at which time you can use it as offset against a second income.
You should be able to be a registered Primary Producer with just one cow. Anything you sell must be declared as income. I started a Stud farm 35 years ago with one cow that was pregnant and had a calf at foot. Back then it was much harder "apparently". I was able to do it with just my 1 cow and get a primary producer tax number which meant all goods were able to be bought without Sales Tax saved heaps off my first chainsaw . It was just a case of setting up like a business which in reality just meant setting up a business name and a bank account.
Member-Deleted wrote:Agree, they have the intelligence, what many are lacking inis ethics and morals.
Daddybang wrote:sungazer wrote:For Primary Production you don't need to be over any limit. The 20 Grand threshold is if you have a second income that you would like to claim primary production losses against. Without the 20k you can continue to carry forward your primary production deductions/losses many years worth until your primary production income/turnover is above 20k at which time you can use it as offset against a second income.
You should be able to be a registered Primary Producer with just one cow. Anything you sell must be declared as income. I started a Stud farm 35 years ago with one cow that was pregnant and had a calf at foot. Back then it was much harder "apparently". I was able to do it with just my 1 cow and get a primary producer tax number which meant all goods were able to be bought without Sales Tax saved heaps off my first chainsaw . It was just a case of setting up like a business which in reality just meant setting up a business name and a bank account.
I applied for an abn and primary producer about 18 months ago and was told because I was not selling my beef only using it for meat (basically so I don't have to waste money at the local coles)I am not eligible for primary production. I got the abn anyway as I occasionally subcontract doing tours.
bullzeye wrote:Na, I don’t have Cat C. I’m in the city and not a primary producer.
Thought there might be a few country guys on here with Cat C who could share their experiences and the licensing process.
After reading this: https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/Primary ... ctivities/
If you are a cattle farmer, dairy farm or similar - you would obviously qualify as a primary producer.
Ziad wrote:To quote our not to quote is the question.
Actually my question was are semiauto better in anyway than a bolt rifle, my only experience was an ak47..... and um yeah it wasn't
bigrich wrote:carefull you don't get to close to the heater with that whiskey stix, WOOMPA ! after finding that scary youtube post of that killer wabbit mate, i went and bought a 45-70 ! just to be sure......
Stix wrote:bigrich wrote:carefull you don't get to close to the heater with that whiskey stix, WOOMPA ! after finding that scary youtube post of that killer wabbit mate, i went and bought a 45-70 ! just to be sure......
The 120 proof is in another room for good reason...!!
But speaking of that, i was talking to the farmer the other day about making a small fire 400 yds out in the paddock & shooting some butane canisters just infront of the fire at dusk...
He suggested we fill some of those silver bladders (from wine or water casks) with the good ol oxygen & acetylene & shoot them...
Now that will be a spectacular "carvvooompah" i rekon...
Daddybang wrote:Semi auto comes into its own when ya have a mob.of animals (like pigs rabbits roos or brumbies) and fast follow up shots wre required. It can mean the difference between getting one or two and getting five or six before they scatter!
bladeracer wrote:Daddybang wrote:Semi auto comes into its own when ya have a mob.of animals (like pigs rabbits roos or brumbies) and fast follow up shots wre required. It can mean the difference between getting one or two and getting five or six before they scatter!
I saw a video some time back with a couple of Aussies or Kiwis hunting goats with an SKS. Wasn't pretty. They basically machine-gunned the mob, then went tracking down all the wounded ones. You target one animal and make sure it's dead before wounding more of them.
Stix wrote:bladeracer wrote:I saw a video some time back with a couple of Aussies or Kiwis hunting goats with an SKS. Wasn't pretty. They basically machine-gunned the mob, then went tracking down all the wounded ones. You target one animal and make sure it's dead before wounding more of them.
I cant comment on the video you've seen blade, but, i hate to say it, that your ideal is not how it works in the real world of a cull.
With bolt centrefires you ground as many as you can-as soon as one drops you're on to the next...then you put any wounded & grounded survivor's out of misery after the flurry.
bigrich wrote:
mmmm, wouldn't get close to a fire with plastic bag bladders filled with gas old mate. toss plastic water bottles with petrol near the fire and shoot them with something high velocity, like say , hmmm, 22-250 good grief, don't tell me you can buy fireworks in your state mate
bladeracer wrote:Daddybang wrote:Semi auto comes into its own when ya have a mob.of animals (like pigs rabbits roos or brumbies) and fast follow up shots wre required. It can mean the difference between getting one or two and getting five or six before they scatter!
I saw a video some time back with a couple of Aussies or Kiwis hunting goats with an SKS. Wasn't pretty. They basically machine-gunned the mob, then went tracking down all the wounded ones. You target one animal and make sure it's dead before wounding more of them.
Daddybang wrote:bladeracer wrote:Daddybang wrote:Semi auto comes into its own when ya have a mob.of animals (like pigs rabbits roos or brumbies) and fast follow up shots wre required. It can mean the difference between getting one or two and getting five or six before they scatter!
I saw a video some time back with a couple of Aussies or Kiwis hunting goats with an SKS. Wasn't pretty. They basically machine-gunned the mob, then went tracking down all the wounded ones. You target one animal and make sure it's dead before wounding more of them.
Not sure how ya connect a bunch of obvious dicks to what I've said.
Semi autos are far more efficient on large mobs of animals as ya can simply switch aim and fire rather than work an action and lose sight pic. At no time did I advocate machine gunning a mob or not ensuring an animal is dead before switching target.
Should also add I wouldn't use an SKS to humanely kill anything that was moving or more than ten yards away. The one I owned pre pam was . notorious for "running away" on me!!!
Daddybang wrote:Ziad wrote:To quote our not to quote is the question.
Actually my question was are semiauto better in anyway than a bolt rifle, my only experience was an ak47..... and um yeah it wasn't
Semi auto comes into its own when ya have a mob.of animals (like pigs rabbits roos or brumbies) and fast follow up shots wre required. It can mean the difference between getting one or two and getting five or six before they scatter!
bladeracer wrote:Stix wrote:bladeracer wrote:I saw a video some time back with a couple of Aussies or Kiwis hunting goats with an SKS. Wasn't pretty. They basically machine-gunned the mob, then went tracking down all the wounded ones. You target one animal and make sure it's dead before wounding more of them.
I cant comment on the video you've seen blade, but, i hate to say it, that your ideal is not how it works in the real world of a cull.
With bolt centrefires you ground as many as you can-as soon as one drops you're on to the next...then you put any wounded & grounded survivor's out of misery after the flurry.
Aimed shots at individual animals is fine. Simply doing a mag dump into a pack of animals is not humane culling by anybody's measure.
bladeracer wrote:bullzeye wrote:Na, I don’t have Cat C. I’m in the city and not a primary producer.
Thought there might be a few country guys on here with Cat C who could share their experiences and the licensing process.
After reading this: https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/Primary ... ctivities/
If you are a cattle farmer, dairy farm or similar - you would obviously qualify as a primary producer.
We're farming cattle as a registered business, but we haven't applied to be Primary Producers. If we did I could probably qualify to own a rimfire semi-auto again. I just don't think it's worth doing for that purpose. I owned semi-auto rifles and pump shotguns as a kid, both are tons of fun, but nowadays I'm really enjoying the deeper engagement of the bolt-action rifles. I'm not against semi's at all though and wish modern kids could have as much fun as I did with them. For hunting, I consider semi-auto to be the most humane option simply because of an immediate follow up shot when required.
Down here, I could own a single semi-auto rimfire rifle, and a single pump shotgun, (and a single tranquilliser gun) on a Cat C licence. I could only use them on my own property on which they're licenced. I can't take them to an approved range, state forest, or a neighbouring property.
sungazer wrote:Bullzeye are you sure you have attendance and or competition requirements for cat a/b? What is the genuine reason you have used?
Daddybang wrote:It's unfortunately not quite as easy as "get ya primary producers-get ya cat c" the biggest hurdle is proving that ya actually require it and can't fill that requirement with cat a/b firearms. Not saying its impossible but they've made it as difficult as they could!!!