Zappa wrote:My gripe is that I was not given the opportunity by the dealer, to comment before they informed the police of this attempt. I totally understand the obligations of the dealer but had they given me the opportunity, I would have explained the oversight and my error. I would also have put it in writing if they cared. Pretty disappointing.
So my lesson learned. Do not buy s**t online if you travel \ work and live between multiple jurisdictions as things covertly get reported without your awareness.
bladeracer wrote:Probably not something they enjoy having to do.
Jäger wrote:Some knives that are legal in some states, aren't legal in others. Be careful when purchasing online.
Jäger wrote:I just want to point out, people need to be careful about knives too.
Some knives that are legal in some states, aren't legal in others. Be careful when purchasing online.
Pay particular attention to how a folding knife opens, or whether it's double edged or not.
zhuk wrote:Jäger wrote:I just want to point out, people need to be careful about knives too.
Some knives that are legal in some states, aren't legal in others. Be careful when purchasing online.
Pay particular attention to how a folding knife opens, or whether it's double edged or not.
Or bayonets in Victoria, for which so I believe you must keep a 'collectors' record. One other thing NSW has going for it, amass as many as you want, as long as they are able to be fitted to a rifle
Double edged, can be complicated re States laws. In NSW fine to possess, but I had to get a B709 and took 6 months to get a Fairbairn & Sykes dagger in from Canada and through the Feds at Customs importation.
zhuk wrote:Jäger wrote:I just want to point out, people need to be careful about knives too.
Some knives that are legal in some states, aren't legal in others. Be careful when purchasing online.
Pay particular attention to how a folding knife opens, or whether it's double edged or not.
Or bayonets in Victoria, for which so I believe you must keep a 'collectors' record. One other thing NSW has going for it, amass as many as you want, as long as they are able to be fitted to a rifle
Double edged, can be complicated re States laws. In NSW fine to possess, but I had to get a B709 and took 6 months to get a Fairbairn & Sykes dagger in from Canada and through the Feds at Customs importation.
bladeracer wrote:zhuk wrote:Jäger wrote:I just want to point out, people need to be careful about knives too.
Some knives that are legal in some states, aren't legal in others. Be careful when purchasing online.
Pay particular attention to how a folding knife opens, or whether it's double edged or not.
Or bayonets in Victoria, for which so I believe you must keep a 'collectors' record. One other thing NSW has going for it, amass as many as you want, as long as they are able to be fitted to a rifle
Double edged, can be complicated re States laws. In NSW fine to possess, but I had to get a B709 and took 6 months to get a Fairbairn & Sykes dagger in from Canada and through the Feds at Customs importation.
I wasn't aware of any restriction on bayonets here in Victoria. Border Force passed three for me earlier this year without any problems.
It's classed as a "Controlled Weapon" here, which we're allowed to own as long as we have a lawful excuse.
https://www.police.vic.gov.au/retrievemedia.asp?media_id=108958&status=active
zhuk wrote:Apologies for not being too clear on that. Sure collecting is a valid excuse in VIC but what I meant is that as far as I can ascertain bayonets are not classified as weapons controlled or otherwise in NSW and I know of no "valid excuse" being necessary
Gaznazdiak wrote:zhuk wrote:Jäger wrote: Mate, I had a similar problem with 2 Grivory training blades several years ago, almost 6 months of bullsh!t and being informed I was "on the books" for 2 attempts to import prohibited items. The first attempt was 2 books, over 20years previously FFS. Big Brother has a long memory.
Zappa wrote:bladeracer wrote:Probably not something they enjoy having to do.
Granted. However, If I could get through to this dealer by phone, ( always busy and put on hold forever ) Im sure they would have stopped the conversation in its tracks by informing me the transaction could not proceed. I highly doubt they would have taken it any further. Especially as they wouldn't have know who I was at that stage of our dealing.
Again just sharing my experience with on-line dealing... never again..
marksman wrote:[
common courtesy and politeness would have IMHO meant that the dealer should have had a discussion with you before making assumptions that discredit you with the AFP, if he were not a tinfoil hat wearer thinking you are a terrorist that is , if I I were you I would be emailing this mongrel with a piece of my mind, he is a piece of ****** and tell him to pick up his phone
Zappa wrote:marksman wrote:[
common courtesy and politeness would have IMHO meant that the dealer should have had a discussion with you before making assumptions that discredit you with the AFP, if he were not a tinfoil hat wearer thinking you are a terrorist that is , if I I were you I would be emailing this mongrel with a piece of my mind, he is a piece of ****** and tell him to pick up his phone
Absolute imbeciles, marksman. I will be writing to the manager with a terse mail explaining the stress and what their lack of prudent, and indiscreet action has put me under.
Hopefully they'll re-educate their staff with a proper business process ( like basic fkn communication ) that will not place their future customers in a difficult, and often irrevocable situation.
"" Dear Manager --- pick up the fkcn phone and apply basic 101 customer service. ffs. ""
Fortunately do to my nature of work , I have regular contact with AFP Officers and was able to get an understanding ( from their perspective ) how this could potentially affect my probity. I also spoke in length with my SSPC club President basically to explain the aberration and just to keep him in the loop.
So breathing a lot easier but need to do some work.
Treating every potential, on-line customer and flagging them to authorities as a terrorist and public enemy number 1 , without basic checking - defies all vectors of logic. .
But we learn, live and shoot
Lifesaride wrote:, but just pointing out the dealers hand may have been forced.
Cheers
Zappa wrote:Lifesaride wrote:, but just pointing out the dealers hand may have been forced.
Cheers
I cant find anything that Ive stated above that would indicate the dealer's hand was forced. If someone can also point to the firearms ACT the obligations of a dealer towards the authorities that circumvents and infringes peoples right to privacy, I would like to know.
I've since spoken to several dealers about this issue and they have all concurred that the "clever dealer" should exercised some prudence before doing what they did.
I say again, they're absolute fu/ckwits.
Zappa wrote:Lifesaride wrote:, but just pointing out the dealers hand may have been forced.
Cheers
I cant find anything that Ive stated above that would indicate the dealer's hand was forced. If someone can also point to the firearms ACT the obligations of a dealer towards the authorities that circumvents and infringes peoples right to privacy, I would like to know.
I've since spoken to several dealers about this issue and they have all concurred that the "clever dealer" should exercised some prudence before doing what they did.
I say again, they're absolute fu/ckwits.
bladeracer wrote:
Ask the dealer why they did it.