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Post by simpsonhey » 09 Dec 2018, 7:41 pm

Hey all so im loving the forum and have lernt a lot. Im looking at getting a second gun for the cabinet. I have a hmr17 which will look after the small criters and range. What would be a good alrounder for the little bit bigger crits like roos or pigs etc. Im thinking a 223 or 243
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Rod_outbak » 09 Dec 2018, 8:03 pm

simpsonhey,

What sort of distance would you be talking on average?
How regularly are you going to be shooting the pigs/roos?
Roughly how many rounds in a year do you expect?
Are you going to reload, or only use factory ammo?

.223 will nail roos and pigs, and cheaper to run.
[Great range of projectiles available.]

.243 will reach a bit further, but more expensive, and less range of factory ammo available.
[Lots of projectile options, though - 6mm/.243 has been popular for many decades.]

Either will do the job, but without knowing distance and frequency, it's hard to suggest much more.

Professional roo shooters usually use a .223 or 22-250 (or variants therof).
I dont know many roo shooters who use 6mm/.243; the .223 is cheaper to run for bulk usage.

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Post by bladeracer » 09 Dec 2018, 8:09 pm

simpsonhey wrote:Hey all so im loving the forum and have lernt a lot. Im looking at getting a second gun for the cabinet. I have a hmr17 which will look after the small criters and range. What would be a good alrounder for the little bit bigger crits like roos or pigs etc. Im thinking a 223 or 243


An 8"-twist .223 runs heavy 35gn to about 80gn bullets, but .243 runs 55gn up to about 105gn bullets.

If you load you're own ammo there's a pretty significant overlap between the two.
If you're buying ammo, then probably .223, followed by the .243 the following week.
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Post by in2anity » 09 Dec 2018, 8:10 pm

Also the 243 recoils noticeably more than a 223 - have you ever shot a 243?
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by simpsonhey » 10 Dec 2018, 3:05 am

No shot neither lol just seeking. 223 was my first option. Will be shooting factory atm. 200 yard maybe 300
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Post by TassieTiger » 10 Dec 2018, 3:19 am

Just my opinion - obviously.

Are you going to be likely wanting a 3rd rifle OR perhaps selling the 17?
If so, I’d say buy the 223.

If you think your definitively keeping the 17 - and I can’t bieve I’m going to recommend this lol - get the 243...

Reasoning:
The 223 is a great caliber for rabbits to roo to smaller pigs. It’s cheap to run, no recoil to speak of, most rifles shoot the caliber like a laser and only a little louder than your 17 so won’t scare a mile away pollies, out of their 3rd vaginas for the evening.,,
243 on other hand - middle, jack of all trades caliber. You won’t be eating bunnies with the heavier pills unless you get lucky, they recoil at least twice as much, they are fookin loud but will do it all.

If I had my time again and knowing Id like to own approx 4 rifles / firearms for various reasons;
Pick your smallest and your largest centrefire “wants”, and then divide the remainder by 2 to get a proper spread and a good mix of specialty calibres.

Eg If .17 and say .30/06 is your spread then 243 and 284 might be your ultimate collection of 4.
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by simpsonhey » 10 Dec 2018, 3:46 am

Lol i will be keeping the 17 it will be my bunni and fox gun . Just want somthing a bit more grunnti for the bigger things i have mates with both and i do like the 243 its got balls
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Post by TassieTiger » 10 Dec 2018, 5:11 am

Why not go bigger than 243 then ?
If the 17 is going to satisfy small game, why not keep the options open for a small deer - something like a 270 maybe? Can load light and still take pigs
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Post by in2anity » 10 Dec 2018, 7:18 am

simpsonhey wrote:No shot neither lol just seeking. 223 was my first option. Will be shooting factory atm. 200 yard maybe 300


Mate i reckon go for the 223. Hot factory ammo through 243 isn't really "plink all day funzone", especially if the rifle is on the lighter side. And the 223 can be a freakin laser beam in the sort of ranges you mentioned. Entry level 223 ammo is also heaps cheaper.

If you want to chase small groups just make sure you get something with a thicker profile barrel. If you still want carryable perhaps go down to a 20". Those Howas mini-actions are pretty amazing.

243 can come later, once you start handloading :thumbsup:
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by marksman » 10 Dec 2018, 7:28 am

just get both, jobs done :drinks: :drinks:
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Post by bigrich » 10 Dec 2018, 8:08 am

marksman wrote:just get both, jobs done :drinks: :drinks:


good reasoning :thumbsup:
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Post by lukeass » 10 Dec 2018, 8:54 am

Dude i have used a 223, 22-250 & 243 and they are great, but if you using factory loads i say use a 22-250...They a great flat shooting rifle and will kill pigs no probs depending on the ammo you use right out to 300-400 yards. They similar in sound to a 243 (virtually no difference at all) but have less kick. With a 22-250 you getting the best of both worlds although again its similar in price to run as a 243. just think you gonna get the best bang for your buck with 22250 man and i am speaking from experience as have used all these calibres a lot.
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Post by bigfellascott » 10 Dec 2018, 9:14 am

Just get a 308 it will cover all bases and is cheap enough to run either with factory or reloads.
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Post by JimTom » 10 Dec 2018, 9:51 am

Mate if you are going to restrict yourself to the one centrefire then I’d say go the .243, good all rounder for what you have mentioned.
Ideally mate I would get a .223 and a .308.
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Post by Ziad » 10 Dec 2018, 10:11 am

Lol great suggestion marksman.... I reckon the best
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by lukeass » 10 Dec 2018, 10:26 am

JimTom wrote:Mate if you are going to restrict yourself to the one centrefire then I’d say go the .243, good all rounder for what you have mentioned.
Ideally mate I would get a .223 and a .308.


yeah what he said ^. pretty economical and a very accurate round. i think a 17hmr will fix any foxes and rabbits but a 308 is ideal for pigs man...stops them dead in their tracks a long way out.
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Post by brett1868 » 10 Dec 2018, 12:41 pm

.223 or .243....shoulder them both and get what feels better that fits within the budget.
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Re: 223 or 243

Post by Archie » 10 Dec 2018, 12:53 pm

Only rifle I kind of regret buying is a 243 - BUT - thats only because I later went on to buy a 223 and a 308 so the 243 is kind of without a job. And for 90% of what you're likely to do in Australia (except the really big and the really small stuff - sambar and rabbits - the 243 will be just as good as either). 243 was my first centrefire and back then (when I assumed I would only every buy one centrefire, how stupid was I...) it was the right choice. If you are only going to buy one centrefire in the next few years then that is what I'd go with personally, just because its a bit more flexible. I do agree that in terms of pleasant to shoot and cheaper to run, the 223 is better, but thats the tradeoff with lighter calibres usually.
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