Keith wrote:I have shot & carried a variety of handguns over the years, but my favourites are muzzle-loading flintlock pistols. Partly I prefer them because of my interest in 18th century Living History, but also because they are harder to shoot; they take more skill to use & therefore are more of a challenge.
Keith.
1730 flintlock pistol National Maritime Museum London
Urastus wrote:I also usually want what I can't have. In this instance it is because the ammo isn't available, but the firearms are (doh!). Ruger GP100 in .327 federal magnum (6" barrel, 7 rounds). I'll probably end up with GP100 in .22 (5.5" barrel, 10 rounds) and .357 (6" barrel, 6 rounds). Or something with a true 5.5 or 6" barrel (not including the chamber) auto in .57 x 28mm. Neither the ammo or the pistol exists for that one. FN has 5.5", but minus the chamber there isn't much barrel at all. I like the idea of flat shooting to 100m
bladeracer wrote:
Ammo availability is never an excuse!
Buy what you want and make the ammo yourself.
Why do you want a specific barrel length?
Are you aware that pistol shooters regularly shoot metallic silhouettes at well over 100m, with cartridges that aren't known for flat shooting?
Urastus wrote:I wasn't aware of that for the .327; there really is nothing around though, so I'd have to reload straight away. Re other calibers and 100m - for sure there are lots of calibers that shoot that distance. For range shooting though I think there are better calibers. I believe the US drives the pistol / hand gun market; Australia wouldn't be 1% of their market. The US market is predominantly driven by self defense. Re barrel length: a compromise between wasted energy, sight radius, club legal, weight, accuracy.
bladeracer wrote:
One of the members here has a lever rifle in .327 for Metallic Silhouette I think.
.327 Federal Mag is a .312" bullet, so anything designed for 7.62x39mm, 7.62x54R or .303 would fit it, but you'd likely have to use the lighter bullets to fit the cylinder length. Hornady do the .312" XTP in 60gn, 85gn and 100gn - I use the 100gn XTP in 7.62x54R and .303. Of course, you could also cast your own bullets to suit.
Urastus wrote:Just had a quick look at what ammo there is in the states. They seem to mostly make from 85 up, but 85 and 100 seems most common. That is good to know Blade - thanks for that. It does look like a good caliber.
Urastus wrote:bladeracer wrote:
One of the members here has a lever rifle in .327 for Metallic Silhouette I think.
.327 Federal Mag is a .312" bullet, so anything designed for 7.62x39mm, 7.62x54R or .303 would fit it, but you'd likely have to use the lighter bullets to fit the cylinder length. Hornady do the .312" XTP in 60gn, 85gn and 100gn - I use the 100gn XTP in 7.62x54R and .303. Of course, you could also cast your own bullets to suit.
Just had a quick look at what ammo there is in the states. They seem to mostly make from 85 up, but 85 and 100 seems most common. That is good to know Blade - thanks for that. It does look like a good caliber.
Bremen wrote:I like unusual firearms or interesting designs. I have a Grand Power K100, am currently looking for a used Desert Eagle. I'd probably get a Chiappa Rhino, FN57, a bunch of historical mil-sups(Tokarev etc).
brett1868 wrote:Bremen wrote:I like unusual firearms or interesting designs. I have a Grand Power K100, am currently looking for a used Desert Eagle. I'd probably get a Chiappa Rhino, FN57, a bunch of historical mil-sups(Tokarev etc).
Don't waste your time or money on a FN57, little or no choice of factory ammo and the one I've got patterns like a 12ga.
No1Mk3 wrote:brett1868 wrote:Bremen wrote:I like unusual firearms or interesting designs. I have a Grand Power K100, am currently looking for a used Desert Eagle. I'd probably get a Chiappa Rhino, FN57, a bunch of historical mil-sups(Tokarev etc).
Don't waste your time or money on a FN57, little or no choice of factory ammo and the one I've got patterns like a 12ga.
Can't possibly agree with this having fired a fellow club members 5-7 this month. It is an amazingly accurate pistol, our club champion was putting 9/10 into a 20cent sized hole at 25m offhand. Even I got 8/10 into the 10 ring at 50m. Perhaps brett needs to have his looked at. hits the "fun factor" as well. Am also considering an APX, I seem to be able to shoot it better than the 92FS, Cheers.
No1Mk3 wrote:brett1868 wrote:Bremen wrote:I like unusual firearms or interesting designs. I have a Grand Power K100, am currently looking for a used Desert Eagle. I'd probably get a Chiappa Rhino, FN57, a bunch of historical mil-sups(Tokarev etc).
Don't waste your time or money on a FN57, little or no choice of factory ammo and the one I've got patterns like a 12ga.
Can't possibly agree with this having fired a fellow club members 5-7 this month. It is an amazingly accurate pistol, our club champion was putting 9/10 into a 20cent sized hole at 25m offhand. Even I got 8/10 into the 10 ring at 50m. Perhaps brett needs to have his looked at. hits the "fun factor" as well. Am also considering an APX, I seem to be able to shoot it better than the 92FS, Cheers.
bigpete wrote:I'd have a 20g howdah pistol,or some form of 50 cal caplock single barrel pistol
brett1868 wrote:bigpete wrote:I'd have a 20g howdah pistol,or some form of 50 cal caplock single barrel pistol
I've got a scout in the US trying to locate either the Thunder or Texan 50BMG pistol for me, not many were made but if one comes up on the market I'll do my best to snag it. Till then I have to console myself to punishing my wrist using the BFR 45-70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DRXX8nU7iA
Boo wrote:Hello, Mr Pedantic here, re a few posts back, just remember that a pistol is a pistol and a revolver is a revolver and never the two shall interchange. Happy Xmas
bladeracer wrote:Boo wrote:Hello, Mr Pedantic here, re a few posts back, just remember that a pistol is a pistol and a revolver is a revolver and never the two shall interchange. Happy Xmas
Not true, although the US do tend to limit "pistol" to refer to semi-auto handguns, the rest of the world uses "pistol" and "handgun" interchangeably.
Boo wrote:Hello, Mr Pedantic here, re a few posts back, just remember that a pistol is a pistol and a revolver is a revolver and never the two shall interchange. Happy Xmas
Bremen wrote:I like unusual firearms or interesting designs. I have a Grand Power K100, am currently looking for a used Desert Eagle. I'd probably get a Chiappa Rhino, FN57, a bunch of historical mil-sups(Tokarev etc).