Wombat wrote:Lucky in some ways, not in others. We are better off in almost every way except firearms laws. Australia is the only country in the world where there is a greater number of US migrants than our citizens migrating there.
Stoney wrote:Wombat wrote:Lucky in some ways, not in others. We are better off in almost every way except firearms laws. Australia is the only country in the world where there is a greater number of US migrants than our citizens migrating there.
Got any hard evidence of that mate? Have you ever lived in America? I have.
Stoney wrote:Australia is the only country in the world where there is a greater number of US migrants than our citizens migrating there.
JimTom wrote:It would be disappointing to see this thread turn into a USA bashing, who’s better thread.
We are all on the same side and have been allies for years.
Wombat wrote:Stoney wrote:Australia is the only country in the world where there is a greater number of US migrants than our citizens migrating there.
That was on the News a couple of months ago, I'm trying to find the figures to prove it now.
You could always look for the figures to try to disprove it.
Wombat wrote:https://medium.com/migration-issues/why-americans-are-leaving-for-the-land-down-under-75bad6dfba39
Wombat wrote:As far as it goes, if Firearm access and laws were the main consideration I'd probably move to NZ. Overall I'm more than happy to stay here, even though my Brother in the US would have easier access to a suppressed full auto submachine gun than I would to a rimfire target pistol here.....
bigfellascott wrote:
It's an overrated ****** as far as I'm concerned and it's got me f***ed why the world revolves around it to be honest, it's a cesspit for arseholes and nutjobs as far as I can tell.
bigfellascott wrote:Stoney wrote:Wombat wrote:Lucky in some ways, not in others. We are better off in almost every way except firearms laws. Australia is the only country in the world where there is a greater number of US migrants than our citizens migrating there.
Got any hard evidence of that mate? Have you ever lived in America? I have.
We've got better Beer.
We can spotlight
We can hunt Deer all year round
We can hunt all year round
No Tags for anything and everything ya shoot
Better Medicare System
Better Food (ie meat that isn't force fed that grain crap they give em over there)
Ya don't get shot at every five mines over here (joking)
Better job security etc
Better Welfare System
And probably a heap more reasons too.
It's an overrated ****** as far as I'm concerned and it's got me f***ed why the world revolves around it to be honest, it's a cesspit for arseholes and nutjobs as far as I can tell.
bigfellascott wrote:Stoney wrote:Wombat wrote:Lucky in some ways, not in others. We are better off in almost every way except firearms laws. Australia is the only country in the world where there is a greater number of US migrants than our citizens migrating there.
Got any hard evidence of that mate? Have you ever lived in America? I have.
We've got better Beer.
We can spotlight
We can hunt Deer all year round
We can hunt all year round
No Tags for anything and everything ya shoot
Better Medicare System
Better Food (ie meat that isn't force fed that grain crap they give em over there)
Ya don't get shot at every five mines over here (joking)
Better job security etc
Better Welfare System
And probably a heap more reasons too.
It's an overrated ****** as far as I'm concerned and it's got me f***ed why the world revolves around it to be honest, it's a cesspit for arseholes and nutjobs as far as I can tell.
Patriot wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Stoney wrote:Wombat wrote:Lucky in some ways, not in others. We are better off in almost every way except firearms laws. Australia is the only country in the world where there is a greater number of US migrants than our citizens migrating there.
Got any hard evidence of that mate? Have you ever lived in America? I have.
We've got better Beer.
We can spotlight
We can hunt Deer all year round
We can hunt all year round
No Tags for anything and everything ya shoot
Better Medicare System
Better Food (ie meat that isn't force fed that grain crap they give em over there)
Ya don't get shot at every five mines over here (joking)
Better job security etc
Better Welfare System
And probably a heap more reasons too.
It's an overrated ****** as far as I'm concerned and it's got me f***ed why the world revolves around it to be honest, it's a cesspit for arseholes and nutjobs as far as I can tell.
The USA has the following....nothing else to be said
First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Third Amendment
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner; nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself; nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.
Sixth Amendment
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed; which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence.
Seventh Amendment
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of common law.
Eighth Amendment
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Ninth Amendment
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Tenth Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Wombat wrote:Patriot wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Stoney wrote:Wombat wrote:Lucky in some ways, not in others. We are better off in almost every way except firearms laws. Australia is the only country in the world where there is a greater number of US migrants than our citizens migrating there.
Got any hard evidence of that mate? Have you ever lived in America? I have.
We've got better Beer.
We can spotlight
We can hunt Deer all year round
We can hunt all year round
No Tags for anything and everything ya shoot
Better Medicare System
Better Food (ie meat that isn't force fed that grain crap they give em over there)
Ya don't get shot at every five mines over here (joking)
Better job security etc
Better Welfare System
And probably a heap more reasons too.
It's an overrated ****** as far as I'm concerned and it's got me f***ed why the world revolves around it to be honest, it's a cesspit for arseholes and nutjobs as far as I can tell.
The USA has the following....nothing else to be said
First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Third Amendment
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner; nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Fifth Amendment
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself; nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.
Sixth Amendment
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed; which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence.
Seventh Amendment
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of common law.
Eighth Amendment
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Ninth Amendment
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Tenth Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
So one can assume you have a thorough knowledge of the Australian Constitution and have read applicable state law- care to point out where the American versions are better?
Wombat wrote:No laws are written in stone.You have not given a single example of where the US laws/constitution are currently better than ours.Amendments are an example of where the constitution has been altered, just like state laws can be altered.