New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by Gamerancher » 09 Jan 2019, 1:39 pm

The rimfire ( smallbore ) lever action targets are 1/2 size. ( 50%, I do know )
The scoped rifle smallbore targets are 1/5 size. I've spent over 20 years shooting at them, I know how small they are.

Not trying to rain on your parade, you are trying something different, good luck to you. :thumbsup:
If it wasn't a 14 hr drive, I'd come along.

I just gave you another silhouette shoot to look at for interest sake.

The .22bpcr targets are scaled to distance: % of full size targets

chickens @ 50m are 25% ( 50/200 ) shot standing, off-hand.
pigs @ 100m are 33% ( 100/300 )
Turkeys " 150m are 38% ( 150/385 )
Rams @ 200m are 40% ( 200/500 )
It is an enjoyable, challenging event that is well patronized in the U.S.
Here in Australia, we shoot it but using the 1/2 size targets that you are using, mainly because the existing silhouette ranges already have them.
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by YoungBuck » 09 Jan 2019, 1:47 pm

That actually sounds really bloody fun. If that makes it's way over to Vic @ the SSAA Little River range count me in.
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by bladeracer » 09 Jan 2019, 2:20 pm

Gamerancher wrote:The rimfire ( smallbore ) lever action targets are 1/2 size. ( 50%, I do know )
The scoped rifle smallbore targets are 1/5 size. I've spent over 20 years shooting at them, I know how small they are.

Not trying to rain on your parade, you are trying something different, good luck to you. :thumbsup:
If it wasn't a 14 hr drive, I'd come along.

I just gave you another silhouette shoot to look at for interest sake.

The .22bpcr targets are scaled to distance: % of full size targets

chickens @ 50m are 25% ( 50/200 ) shot standing, off-hand.
pigs @ 100m are 33% ( 100/300 )
Turkeys " 150m are 38% ( 150/385 )
Rams @ 200m are 40% ( 200/500 )
It is an enjoyable, challenging event that is well patronized in the U.S.
Here in Australia, we shoot it but using the 1/2 size targets that you are using, mainly because the existing silhouette ranges already have them.


I'll have to draw up some silhouettes to those scales and see how I go with them. What are the sight limitations for BPCR - aftermarket peeps okay?

I'll have to set aside a week or two to pull a few hundred bullets and load up some .22LR with blackpowder ;-)
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by Gamerancher » 09 Jan 2019, 2:32 pm

Vernier tangs are the go. No need to pull the bullets, the BPCR is about the types of rifles, not the propellant. But, hey if you want to just for sh!ts sake, have at it.
Have a look on the www, there will be plenty of photos of the rifles that are used. ( U.S )
In Aus , we shoot the wrong sized targets (bigger) and allow Martini's, ( no external hammer ), mainly because there are so many of them.
Still in its infancy, we'll be shooting a match at the Majura range ( A.C.T. ) on the Monday morning ( 21st Jan) after the early Australia day silhouette match, followed by a 40 shot BPCR match in the afternoon. Tell your brother to come along and have a look if he 'aint busy.
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by wildcard6 » 10 Jan 2019, 7:59 pm

I can't believe I finally got it to work! I had to resize down to <1mb! So now, there are the match targets [there's one missing, the little Ram got cut off]. I had a final rehearsal today with one other shooter and we got our 100m, 150m and 200m zeroes locked in using the little chickens, pigs and rams. Because there was a shotgun match on we couldn't go out to 300 yards, but it's easy enough to shoot at rocks on the dirt backstop at 300 yards. IT AIN'T EASY HITTING AT 300 YARDS!!! I'm amazed that there's a group at Monarto shooting complex here in SA that shoots rimfires at 500m! They only shoot at plates though - no falling targets, and they're the ones I LOVE to shoot. Big cheerio to all and I'll report back here after the shoot on Sunday.
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by Faedy » 11 Jan 2019, 12:29 am

Hey - any chance of putting approx measurements on each of your above targets?
Im lucky enough to have a 100 acre property to shoot on, and Ive made my own shooting range there goes to 300m.
Ive been having fun shooting my.22 at 200m using 400 x 400mm bisalloy plate,but this is next level fun.
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by Gamerancher » 11 Jan 2019, 5:46 am

Silhouette target sizes are available from the SSAA website. Go to disciplines page and from there the silhouette rule book. The sizes for all targets are listed there.
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by Faedy » 11 Jan 2019, 10:35 pm

Thanks for that
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by tom604 » 13 Jan 2019, 5:42 pm

well i have done the shoot and it was a lot of fun :thumbsup: ,bit of friendly banter :friends: and not too much wind :allegedly: ,didn't change my scope just used holdover, may change that as i was off the cross hairs at 300 which makes it fun guessing where to aim, those chooks get very small (two sizes) at 100 and hard to see from the dust that all the near misses kick up (may have shot the wrong target :oops: ) all in all a fun shoot :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by wildcard6 » 13 Jan 2019, 8:38 pm

Fourteen intrepid shooters signed in for the shoot today. Many shooters were unprepared for the shoot, but kept on trying gamely nevertheless. One shooter shot the match using a little single shot 'Badger' [break-barrel rifle with maybe 16" barrel!!] and not surprisingly he struggled to get a score - but he did! He scored nine points out of a possible 270!! Good on him for not only trying but not giving up. With the largeish turnout and the hot weather [34 degrees or so], I cut the shoot down from 4 details to 3. One thing became apparent. I set the bar a little too high for most shooters who were doing this for the first time. When I scaled down the targets after the first detail, the 100m small chickens are EXTREMELY challenging. The small pigs at 150m are [what's a word that's doubly EMTREMELY?], well anyway it was F*c*ing hard and it just got harder as I scaled the big turkeys down to big chickens at 200m.
The queen of targets though is the big ram at 300 yards and they proved a worthy challenge indeed. One redoubtable shooter who'd struggled all day using a borrowed scope only put on his rifle just before the shoot started managed to pull off an absolute screamer with a first-round hit in the last detail. There was a roar from the 'crowd' [and several demands for a urine sample] and I believe that shot made his day. I bagged a first-round hit on that same target and what really amazed me was being able to see the bullet smack into the target [dead centre] and then I saw the bullet bounce off!! Big round of applause for the Vortex Diamondback Tactical scope - pretty good optics for a mid-range scope. The next shoot will be on February 3rd - a 200 meter variant - and I will set the bar a bit lower next time. Until such time as a few other shooters start to improve their scores, at least. Modesty forbids me from saying who won the comp, but in seeing how much everybody seemed to enjoy the shoot, I was a winner already.
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by bladeracer » 13 Jan 2019, 9:44 pm

Sounds like it was a blast :-)
Any video at all?
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by wildcard6 » 14 Jan 2019, 8:29 pm

Sorry, but I was busy organising, running the shoot, and actually shooting and above all, having a good time. Next shoot in February I'm going to experiment with 200-yards only [can't shoot out to 300 due to a clash with a shotgun match on at the same time]. The 300-yard targets are in the firing line of the shotgunners. That may be possible to set up the video, and the hit-rate should be a bit higher than at 300-yards. I'm leaning towards limiting things to a single range shoot [the longest possible on the day] to shorten the overall time for the shoot. Plenty of challenge, targets hittable by 'average' shooters. That's the key to a successful shoot, I reckon.
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by wildcard6 » 15 Jan 2019, 9:28 pm

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By the way, here's my little girl. Not very 'tactical', except for the scope, but it's capable out to 300 yards!
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by Stix » 15 Jan 2019, 9:33 pm

Looks good wildcard6...

Id come slong if i had a decently accurate
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by Daddybang » 16 Jan 2019, 6:58 am

Bloody great to see its taking off and ya enjoying it. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :drinks:
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Re: New long range .22 LR rimfire shoot in Adelaide. XRRS

Post by wildcard6 » 16 Jan 2019, 9:33 am

G'day Stix. One of the shooters was using a "Little Badger' and although he didn't score very well, he still had a good time trying! This shoot is still in its infancy and will go through some changes as it matures. Next shoot I'll use small PIGS at 100m to make them a little more hittable. I'll also stick to Ram targets at both 200m and 300yds because they are likewise easier to hit [if that's actually possible at 300 yards!]. Rifles used in the shoot included Anschutz's and Ruger American Target model [good rifle!]. The main challenge is in working out the holdovers and having a scope that allows you to keep the target in view at 300 yards. I'm also using 25MOA ring inserts that give me additional UP adjustment capability. The 30mm scope tube on the Vortex scope means winding down to a 40m zero for regular metallic silhouette shooting is still possible. I started with a Hawke Vantage 3-9X scope with drop compensation reticles configured out to 200m. That scope comes configured for both High Velocity or Standard Velocity. I bought the HV version, but on reflection, for target shooting, the SV version would be better. I tried to have a bet both ways, because the HV version would allow me to use the rifle for small game shooting as well [the reticle is illuminated, which is fantastic for spotlighting], but I really don't do much [or any] of that any more, so the target scope option [Vortex] isn't causing me any regrets. That being said, it is not a difficult thing to remove the scope AND RINGS together and replace it with a simple hunting scope IN ITS OWN RINGS and my CZ is once again a bunny-gun. I'd encourage you to come along and give it a try. The only thing you have to worry about is rule 8a. 'Any shooter not having fun is disqualified'. :)
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