Local gun shop closures with COVID shutdown

[Am88]

I agree Marksman, another number's looker, another internet expert, I didn't know he was still here actually, I haven't seen another post about a first gun or scope or camo or anything for a while, the media started all this rubbish and it will rule it. Yes it is a serious disease, I wonder how inflated the numbers are from which people have OTHER issues, cancer or such, who are dying anyway, but catch this disease and boom, they are written off as being killed by covid.

[JimTom]

So how about those local gun shops running out of stuff because of Covid 19 eh.

[DaveZ]

**Stranger slowly slides in from stage left to join the ruckus**

Soooo, my opinion, which is worth what I charge for it, any immediate shutdowns for the virus are not the main thing to be worried about here. I think the economic fallout from so many people being out of work will bankrupt many small businesses. The government can only throw cash at everyone for so long, then what? There's going to be a lot of cash strapped families when we come out the other side of this, it will not be back to "business as usual".

The virus will do what it does, not much any of us can do about it except try not to catch the damn thing or spread it to others. here's hoping it passes quicker and less painfully than we all fear.

Cheers,
Dave.

[TassieTiger]

Haha JT. Yep. Bugger lol
I heard being paranoid of CV increases your chances 69% of contracting it.

[DaveZ]

exactly right mate, the recovered patients I'd guarantee aren't reported to full value

All the people who show little to no symptoms and have not been tested cannot be in the recovered figure either. They have been tight with tests as there isn't a huge supply so there would be heaps not tested I'd reckon.

[Am88]

So how about those local gun shops running out of stuff because of Covid 19 eh.

I went to one of my 3 in town on Monday, they had a healthy supply of ADI powder, but couldn't see it lasting long, one other shop had sold out of powder, one other shop was close. projectiles flying off the shelf as well, I need to get my hands on another couple hundred primers before it all happens yet

[Am88]

All the people who show little to no symptoms and have not been tested cannot be in the recovered figure either. They have been tight with tests as there isn't a huge supply so there would be heaps not tested I'd reckon.

Correct mate yes, I read an article of a gentleman who tested positive and barely had any symptoms. Tom hanks and his wife would have had a ripper week or 2 in quarantine because he looked fine too.

[Stix]

I cant believe an extra thread about toilet paper has to be made when one exists, & that this thread about firearms retailers supplies & possible shutdowns, continually gets switched to food supply & lumbered with COVID19 statistics & bulls**t arguements.

Think ill start a thread about pet fish in the varminting section to discuss cleaning concrete with dehydrated tea leaves, & argue the virtues of climate change caused by burnt gunpowder...

[Sergeant Hartman]

Rotfl... hmm this thread is funny... marksman mate i think the mods listen to you more than they listen to me... and i am sure they enjoyed stix little picture...

[Member-Deleted]

I cant believe an extra thread about toilet paper has to be made when one exists, & that this thread about firearms retailers supplies & possible shutdowns, continually gets switched to food supply & lumbered with COVID19 statistics & bulls**t arguements.

Think ill start a thread about pet fish in the varminting section to discuss cleaning concrete with dehydrated tea leaves, & argue the virtues of climate change caused by burnt gunpowder...

You had me at "pet fish in the varminting section" Stix... now that's a thread

[Member-Deleted]

just googled "USA ammunition shortage 2008-2013" - interesting Wikipedia reading, that a run on the gun stores in late 2008 led to ammo shortages that lasted a good 12-18 months, and then came back in 2012 with a second panic buy.

Seems .22LR copped it too, because small profit margins on .22 meant manufacturers preferred to either put production effort into other calibers, or more than double the price for .22
Might pick up a brick or two tomorrow [and you know, fuel the panic

[Sergeant Hartman]

Hey i went and shot all my ammo on Monday at the range... but i am glad i stocked up last year on projectiles and powder.... i just need to get a little bit more tomorrow though... cuz you just never know.

I did tell them to leave some 4 me, hopefully he remembered.

Ohh to add to that earlier post i need to grow an avocado tree in my backyard.

[Stix]

went out saw 15 fallow and 2 red deer, 3 in the freezer before the total lockdown

l suggest some of you guys do the same instead of the bullchit argueing ..._ _ _ ...

Good on you marksman...

Accessibility to certain species does vary with us shooters though...very envious of whats available to you... ...but envious in a good way.. ...i really like how you dont waste stuff & promote the practice... ...i think thems good traits...

Wish i could swap some bunnies with you...but given you just bought home 30, you've got more than me so i dont like my chances...

Speaking of swaps...wouldnt mind a crack at a few of them sausages... ...could meet you at the border...

(Ah give me a break. ..its worth a crack...!!... )

[Flyer]

I'll swap you some of my olives for your avocado.

Last week I bought two bricks of SK Match, a couple hundred Lapua 223 match cases, 200x 123gr 6.5 Lapua Scenars, 500x .223 53gr Varmageddons, a few boxes of BR4 primers, a few hundred 20gr FMJ 17hmr rounds, no powder – because it couldn't be had for love or money – and the next day . . . my club shut down

[Bruiser64]

My local gun store flagged a while ago that WA stores are struggling to get reloading powder and may not get any for several months. This isn’t an issue for me as I am well stocked. I did pop into a few gun shops on my travels and they all report a big increase in ammo sales. I think it is prudent to make sure we are all well stocked so we can pursue our hobby. No one knows how long this disruption will go on for, so we may as well be prepared.

[Baronvonrort]

I think everything will be back to normal within 1 month.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/doctor-treated-350-cov-19-patients-with-100-success-using-the-drug-the-media-hates/?fbclid=IwAR10oK9IMSuV9LlmZYqvsjyHlvg1vP-X_tB6wbQIi0D3XX4wUTF969rT4ug

[Sergeant Hartman]

There you go it was an Israeli jewish conspirasory.... they put it in the Americas enemy...aka China and Iran. And had the cute all along.....jk

Actually i saw a newspaper article that dentists were prescribing that drug to themselves and their family members resulting in chemist running out of supply across Australia.

If a drug like that works its awesome.. from memory though that anti malaria drug has some pretty serious and life long side effects.

[trekin]

There you go it was an Israeli jewish conspirasory.... they put it in the Americas enemy...aka China and Iran. And had the cute all along.....jk

Actually i saw a newspaper article that dentists were prescribing that drug to themselves and their family members resulting in chemist running out of supply across Australia.

If a drug like that works its awesome.. from memory though that anti malaria drug has some pretty serious and life long side effects.

Only if it is the active ingredient in the fish tank cleaner that you are drinking.

[Sergeant Hartman]

https://www.timesnownews.com/health/art ... ate/569043

What do you expect..... intelligence was probably not a factor in making the decision

[Zappa]

https://www.timesnownews.com/health/article/coronavirus-man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-to-prevent-covid19-heres-why-you-should-not-self-medicate/569043

What do you expect..... intelligence was probably not a factor in making the decision

. I'm looking around for Forsynthia myself. Self medicating while not having a background in Chemistry, Toxicology ain wise imo.

The best chance we have at re-establishing normality back into life while the vaccine is being developed, is for people to administer these self detecting anti body tests for proof of immunity.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11250187/ ... ts-amazon/

After the test, you should be given a card or electronic certificate whether issued on your phone or physical, thatwould help you prove that you carry immunity for the short period of time, and gain access to work places and public areas.

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What do you guys think of powder and components or other things impacted by the supply constraint being sold at huge - price gouging markups by private ads ?

While I think a reasonable markup to compensate for imminent price hikes are understandable, selling things x2 or x3 , kinda sux. I hope web forums and sales web sites take a dim view of this and take action. Profiteering at the expense of peoples misfortunes is below the belt and if you can sleep easy? - power to you - I couldn't do it.

[Baronvonrort]

https://www.timesnownews.com/health/article/coronavirus-man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-to-prevent-covid19-heres-why-you-should-not-self-medicate/569043

What do you expect..... intelligence was probably not a factor in making the decision

This should help those who don't know what real medicine looks like compared to Aquarium cleaner.

[TassieTiger]

I face timed an old, friend (Aunty) who lived near Vietnam when the war was escalating there.
She wanted to know the price of a hazmat suit and when I found out for her, she said ok, am I stupid for thinking this ? - her idea being this;
During the later stages of Vietnam, she witnessed gas attacks and their province put measures in place.

The basis of her idea, enforced by police - If every single person, in the country was only allowed outside whilst wearing a protective suit, we could eliminate the virus spread inside 3 weeks - so issue out these cheap(ish) suits via post to all households. You need to go out? - ok, you wear a suit.
3 weeks passes - virus would be gone.

Would this do the trick ? (I told her I’d ask smarter ppl than me).

[trekin]

I'm looking around for Forsynthia myself. Self medicating while not having a background in Chemistry, Toxicology ain wise imo.

The best chance we have at re-establishing normality back into life while the vaccine is being developed, is for people to administer these self detecting anti body tests for proof of immunity.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11250187/ ... ts-amazon/

After the test, you should be given a card or electronic certificate whether issued on your phone or physical, thatwould help you prove that you carry immunity for the short period of time, and gain access to work places and public areas.

=====

What do you guys think of powder and components or other things impacted by the supply constraint being sold at huge - price gouging markups by private ads ?

While I think a reasonable markup to compensate for imminent price hikes are understandable, selling things x2 or x3 , kinda sux. I hope web forums and sales web sites take a dim view of this and take action. Profiteering at the expense of peoples misfortunes is below the belt and if you can sleep easy? - power to you - I couldn't do it.

The poms admitted, last week, that this virus has been "rife" over there since Dec 19. I'd certainly put my hand up to test these kits here in Aus, if for no other reason than to see if what I had back in Jan was covid 19.

[Stix]

I face timed an old, friend (Aunty) who lived near Vietnam when the war was escalating there.
She wanted to know the price of a hazmat suit and when I found out for her, she said ok, am I stupid for thinking this ? - her idea being this;
During the later stages of Vietnam, she witnessed gas attacks and their province put measures in place.

The basis of her idea, enforced by police - If every single person, in the country was only allowed outside whilst wearing a protective suit, we could eliminate the virus spread inside 3 weeks - so issue out these cheap(ish) suits via post to all households. You need to go out? - ok, you wear a suit.
3 weeks passes - virus would be gone.

Would this do the trick ? (I told her I’d ask smarter ppl than me).

You'll never get everyone to wear them anyway...but it would allow the smart respectful ones of us to temporarily avoid it.

I snuck into a supermarket yest rvo & stood back & waited for someone to move out the way of baby wipe area...they moved & i moved in for a look...
Then a couple in their 40s decided i was invisible & as good as stood on top of me talkin accross me...then the guy reached over to grab some & knocked me while i was trying to escape his breath.

Got out of there...then in the carpark a guy walks right up to me & starts talkin in my face about my car...ive opened back door to put shopping bags on seat & he almost tryed to mount me to have a look in the cab... (dusl cab).
When he saw that i looked like i was about to throw him across the car park, he explained he was thinkin of buyin a similar car...

Drove past an apprentice recruitment/training outlet this morning at their smoko time.
I saw 5 groups of young guys & a few girls all sittin on boots & bonnets between cars in groups of 4 -about 9 people.
There wouldnt have beed 3 feet between the faces of the people furthest apart in any group.

In aupermarkets there are ALWAYS still people who wont stand back & wait for you to look & get what you want...they come & stand on top of you.

Aldi have the floors at registers marked with red electrical tape--obviously only one person(/couple) in each area...
Last 2 times ive been there there have been 3-5 strangers in any 2 areas...very few people have an awareness or respect...
People will get this through their own fault & die, & blame the Govt for it...!!!

Its fukn crazy out there...
In so many ways, despite our "intelligence", we are such a stupid animal...!!

[Sergeant Hartman]

Hey zappa, mate i would take anything the sun publishes with a big grain of salt. They are not sensationalist media outlet at all...hehe

Trekin, do you mean Jan 19th...as i thought the virus was still in very low state in China...aka i can understand it might have entered as one or two people came from wuhan... but not rife in the society.

Tassie, mate not gonna happen. We are freedom loving people, who dont like rules too much.. even though as a herd we observe a lot of rules. So when you start taking people freedoms away some numpties will arc up. The govts appear to be trying to keep as many people happy as they can... who cares if a few die. Then i remember reading up of a guy, suspected for covid, and told to self isolate until the test results came back...he was enjoying life mixing with pepple, going to work.... and he was actually diagnosed with covid when the results came back...he was in tassie. Hahaha

As i said earlier, you may choose not to believe it, but this virus is now in the open, firstly we don't actually know what animal was the original carrier.... so even if we isolate the fk outta ourselves as humans the cycle will start again. Secondly going back to Australia unless Australia actually close its borders 100% for the next 18 months (until a vaccine is found) isolation will cause a b lot of pain but not the results you expect (health experts expectation is different).

Eg Let's say we erradicate it from Australia completely. If we do not force all overseas visitors to test and self isolate until the results come back negative the virus will just come back. And then the cycle will begin again for us. The end game is herd immunity either by vaccine or just infection by the real virus.

Anyone have Netflix see the series pandemic..... its scary...and so prophetic. All these expert scientists saying that the next pandemic is due and its very likely going to be respiratory like the flu, and will come from China.

Ok ok TFE be happy i am slightly worried..... but you are still wrong in your assessment

Edited for clarity. A good question to ask is what do they mean by flattening the curve.

[Zappa]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... icial-says

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -australia

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-02-15/C ... index.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... ed-it.html

no big secret regardless of the rag that publishes it.

[Sergeant Hartman]

I think i mentioned this before, one of my school friend writings for a Chinese biomed company and they have got a test kit to detect covid19.

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[TassieTiger]

Z - they are trying to slow the dissemination, pretty sure they are more than aware of the points youve raised RE reinfection...it’s a definitive... they are gambling on a vaccine or cure to be developed.

I do share concerns re the amount of testing that is available - so many ppl may be infected, want to be tested but can’t be - the numbers could be astronomical in Aust, but we just don’t know...

That cv19 + knob jockey in Hobart was caught early - but ffs - so lucky. I think he’s been charged now, but he worked in a bloody kitchen of a prominent hotel and covered 2 weekend shifts, went to a nightvlub (yes, we have them here you knobs) and apparently also picked up 2 days after positive test...his name has been withheld from media because he would be s**ting himself when he gets out...

What baffles me, some 3rd world countries are reporting very low no’s, despite legit infection - is this reporting anomaly? Not enough testing? Not enough local medics to confirm?

TFE - I agree, the bushfire crisis showed how we can come together and care but for some reason / this thing promotes hostility and violence...

[Stix]

Ziad...can you actually shoot...?

Do you realise you have to put specific ammo in a specific chambered rifle...?

I just ask because it looks like you've plowed those power points in the background with 22-250's, 243's & 308's out of a 38 cal at close range...
And i think the 250's are tumbling man...!!

[Sergeant Hartman]

I don't shot mate, i work for GCA....jk

That's my mates office/cubice/workstation... Chinese power points