TassieTiger wrote:15 mins ago at a posters house...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Eayro5LQk
f*** man, I've got a PTA processing don't scare me like this.
TassieTiger wrote:15 mins ago at a posters house...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Eayro5LQk
Dedd wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:I'm saying we need to encourage more people to get into shooting while we have this opportunity. I'm not saying we need to hand them a rifle and goose step them into parliament. People genuinely need to know that they are the only ones looking out for their best interests, governments lie all the time as we have seen and they take away more liberties all the times. We need to be armed and have that written down along with better self defence laws so that government don't have a monopoly on use of force and we are left with our pants down.
I agree, but we need to start people with a .22 and a paper target, not an AR15 and a drop sear.
We need to remove the laws restricting ranges (and the SSAA regulations that stop people going to them), remove the laws forcing us to remain hidden (transportation rules for example) and get people used to guns being just a part of life. I hear so many stories of the good old days when you could openly transport a rifle on public transport without a problem and I think that's what we need to push for if we are ever going to get a rise in shooter numbers. Once people see the benefits of gun ownership they'll support political action, maybe armed if they need to.
By the way, the percentage of firearms license holders in NSW compared to the population is:
2016: 2.98%
2020: 3.18%
So we are growing, but only 0.05% per year. If we want anything to change we really need to speed that up. Maybe once we get to 10% we might start seeing some political influence.
BangWhizzClack wrote:Also, I think that owners should not be so liable if firearms are stolen, I mean, you don't blame the car owner when their car is stolen and crashes into someone.
BangWhizzClack wrote:We need to be armed and have that written down along with better self defence laws so that government don't have a monopoly on use of force and we are left with our pants down.
boingk wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:Also, I think that owners should not be so liable if firearms are stolen, I mean, you don't blame the car owner when their car is stolen and crashes into someone.
Stop smoking the crack mate. If you have them properly stored you aren't liable. Having seen some of the arrangements people have, I fully support them being charged when they are stolen from the back seat of the ute, the corner of the shed, or from a wooden cupboard not secured in any way shape or form. That's not how you secure a firearm or protect the interests of yourself, the firearm fraternity, or the wider community.
Coupled with this:BangWhizzClack wrote:We need to be armed and have that written down along with better self defence laws so that government don't have a monopoly on use of force and we are left with our pants down.
Mate I have genuine concerns for your mental wellbeing. Either you're deluded, a complete troll, or a clueless 18 year old who has just figured out how modern society works.
Or possibly teleported from 1950's Texas.
Whatever the case may be, having seen the wider calibre of citizens, I would not encourage anything you just said.
I dare say you'd be the first to cower if a single patrol car came to your place. What're you gonna do, big boy, start shooting? Start screaming as you're led to the van with men in white coats, syringes at the ready?
My guess is firmly the latter. Go somewhere else. You won't find the satisfaction you seek here.
By the way, I note the firearms in your signature and also your IP address. Expect that knock.
Soon.
- boingk
BangWhizzClack wrote: So you sit back and think about what you've done.
TassieTiger wrote:Well - you - maybe need to edit the heading, eh ?
TassieTiger wrote:Exactly - it’s too eye catching.
Many, me included, sympathise with your plight - but seriously, you need to get some real life experience and an understanding as to how things really work...
It won’t be anyone here who does you in - it will be a skimming IT robot that picks up on certain key words that starts the ball rolling...but now I’m starting to wonder as to your intent - I’m thinking your maybe ? wanting to be arrested and I think your hoping for publicity...
TassieTiger wrote:No it’s not strange to speak out and encourage the firearm ownership movement - you do realise that most ppl on this forum are already members of numerous firearm lobby organisations ? Surely your not that naive to think otherwise ?
Should you be pointing your dreams at those who are not firearm owners ? Camping, 4 wheel drive, fishing forums where you might encounter numerous ppl who are on the fence as to whether they should or should not go via legal process to obtain firearms ?
Dedd wrote:Except you're preaching to people who are not only licensed shooters, but enthusiastic enough to be on this forum. I doubt there's many people here who aren't already members of at least one of those lobby groups and are happy to discuss it on other places.
A better option would be "take a non-shooter to the range" day. Actually, I might suggest something like that to my range. A discount on something if you bring in someone for a p650. I believe ranges in the US do similar promotions to good effect.
Skinna wrote:There should be regular mainstream advertising for the shooting sports-period.!!
Dedd wrote:Except you're preaching to people who are not only licensed shooters, but enthusiastic enough to be on this forum. I doubt there's many people here who aren't already members of at least one of those lobby groups and are happy to discuss it on other places.
A better option would be "take a non-shooter to the range" day. Actually, I might suggest something like that to my range. A discount on something if you bring in someone for a p650. I believe ranges in the US do similar promotions to good effect.
Dedd wrote:Skinna wrote:There should be regular mainstream advertising for the shooting sports-period.!!
Not a bad idea either. Even the SSAA should be happy to try and get more shooters ($$$). I'm not sure how stuff works within SSAA but I am a member so I'll write in a suggestion that they allocate some funds to allow ranges to advertise for new shooters.
Of course they SSAA range in my area isn't well liked, so maybe they should fix that first.
womble wrote:It's like Ziege and Marksman had an illegitimate child wait till Bill finds out.
Do applaud your your youthful enthusiasm.
By this year's end the wider public will value liberty and freedom moreso and wisenned to guard it more closely