Johnny Jigsaw wrote:Hi my friends
I am pretty new to all of this and would like some advice if possible.
I'm in the process of acquiring and installing a safe in a cupboard under the stairs. The floor is concrete which is great but the wall behind is chipboard with no studs. it is a very tight compartment so it is almost impossible for someone to get behind it.
If I bolt this safe to the ground and have it against the chipboard do you think this will be passable?
Lsfan wrote:Hi all, just signed up so thought I would contribute. I am awaiting my PTA’s for first rifles and have had my safe sitting for months now. Mine is installed in a first floor level of my house and bolted to particle board floor and also to studs. I recall that this is allowed where there is no concrete present. For concrete I’m sure you only need bolting to the floor but There is a minimum bolt size and 4 required I thought?
djmm wrote:Sorry to bring this topic up again, I spoke to the safe shop about installation and the person was adamant that even if I anchored the safe onto concrete floor, it still needs to be flush against the wall.
From reading the guideline (copy and pasted below):
When mounted onto brick, stone or concrete, it should be attached by at least four (4) masonry anchors 90mm in
length and 10mm in diameter internally fitted through holes in the rear and/or base of the container, securing it to the
floor and/or wall. The safe should be flush against the floor and/or wall.
* When mounted onto main wall studs, it should be fitted flush against the wall and secured to the wall studs and/or
floor joists by four (4) galvanized hexagon head coach screws, not less than 65mm in length and 8mm in diameter.
So my understanding is, if it is mounted to concrete floor slab with 4 anchors, as long as there is no gap on the floor, it will be acceptable even if it's not flush to the wall. That's how I understand it but the guy was persistent... Also by common sense, even if you try to jemmy it from the gap, my plaster wall break first before there is even a remote chance for the safe to wiggle.
djmm wrote:The pistol safe is CMI
djmm wrote:Not to threadjack but on same note, if my house is on concrete slab, can we bolt the safe on the floor but leaving some gaps between the back of safe and the wall? (Around 2cm)
My understanding is you only need it flush if you bolt it on wall stud,but on ground it doesn't have to.
Johnny Jigsaw wrote:This is under the stairs
Johnny Jigsaw wrote:Thanks mate.
I will take note of that and see if I can reassess
Johnny Jigsaw wrote:Thanks guys for all your great feed back. I’ve attached a picture of where I want to install it. There are gaps on the sides but I will make sure it is bolted down so it can’t move. Hope it will be fine if inspected. This is under the stairs
yoshie wrote:As long as its bolted down it compiles. If you get it inspected the officer will give it a wiggle, if it wiggles too much they won't pass it or tell you to fix it. They might want to make sure the bolt size at least minimum size. I've have 4 inspections in 15 years and haven't had a problem.