SCJ429 wrote:You will find that 14x is not enough magnification for even the shortest range benchrest. I would suggest 30x as a minimum and 40x or 50x even better. You can get a second-hand Nightforce BR 12-42x56 for $1,500 which would be an excellent scope for your application. Mine has been excellent to use for a few years now.
Yes wrote:Thanks again.
I should have clarified, I'm not going to be comp shooting, just have a property that can accommodate ranged shooting - paper at longer ranges isn't likely to interest me (say beyond 200m). But gongs 500-800+ for the fun of it are more likely where the longer shots will be taking place.
in2anity wrote:Yes wrote:Thanks again.
I should have clarified, I'm not going to be comp shooting, just have a property that can accommodate ranged shooting - paper at longer ranges isn't likely to interest me (say beyond 200m). But gongs 500-800+ for the fun of it are more likely where the longer shots will be taking place.
That kind of changes things. Just get a vx3 CDS with plenty of magnification then. Comp level F class style on the other hand - a different ball-game.
Yes wrote:I will opt for the highest magnification around that $2000 mark also - so thanks for the great feedback and help!
in2anity wrote:Yes wrote:I will opt for the highest magnification around that $2000 mark also - so thanks for the great feedback and help!
Probably don't need to spend that much. Besides the LRPs are unavailable now due to the rona. I have the 6.5-20x CDS duplex on my 223 comp gun - regularly use it to 400m for which the 223 is great.
Yes wrote:The VX3I in 6.5-20x50 CDS with a 30mm tube are around $1850... seems like a fairly good option.
Bello wrote:Hi Mate
I had a CDS dial on one of my rifles. Not bad.
But you have to get the load spot on.
It can't be a 'Yeah this load will do' type thing.
Hunting loads are different to target loads.
The CDS will not be as accurate unless you have all your ducks lined up (brass, primes etc)
my2c
in2anity wrote:Bello wrote:Hi Mate
I had a CDS dial on one of my rifles. Not bad.
But you have to get the load spot on.
It can't be a 'Yeah this load will do' type thing.
Hunting loads are different to target loads.
The CDS will not be as accurate unless you have all your ducks lined up (brass, primes etc)
my2c
I'm not sure how specifically the CDS feature is relevant here? - I take it you are saying generally, you feel Leupolds are not as accurate? Rest assured, under well-lit, like-for-like conditions, with like-for-like gear, you will be able to shoot the same sized group with a vx3 as you can with a NF or schmidt, particularly at 223 distances.
in2anity wrote:Yes wrote:The VX3I in 6.5-20x50 CDS with a 30mm tube are around $1850... seems like a fairly good option.
Doubt you'll be disappointed.I'm really not sure about stock levels in Oz though...
Be forewarned, the 50mm objs are bulky - best on a rifle with an adjustable comb.
Yes wrote:I think Bello may be stating that the CDS needs very accurate data for it to transfer to accuracy on range? It is something I have thought about - but I guess for hitting gongs at distance an inch or so shouldn't make too much difference and will be a lot quicker to dial in and out over the varying distances I'll place my gongs.
Yes wrote:On paper at 100m-200m I guess you will need to finely adjust the scope as you would anyway? I may have all this wrong!
Bello wrote:Hi Mate
I would suggest either a 5-25 at minimum or a 5 - 30.
I have Swarovski scopes (Nice clear glass) on some of my hunting rifles in these powers. When at the range I can see the holes in the targets out to 200 meters no problems.
If you decided you want to do bench rest comp, I would suggest a March 60 power or 80 power. You can get them second hand sometimes at reasonable prices.
March are pricy but quite good with lots of magnification.
Look on the second hand gun sites.
I like Leupold and have a few on my rifles. I like the 4-24 leupold.
Happy shopping.
Bello wrote:Hi in2anity
I do own several Leupold scope and do point people towards them as my experiences with them and their service dept in QLD had been nothing short of great.
My last post refered to the scope with the CDS.
You wrote "The VX3I in 6.5-20x50 CDS with a 30mm tube are around $1850... seems like a fairly good option."
I offer my advice, which come from my experience.
That, I believe is the relevance to the CDS dial on the scope.
I trust you are familiar with the CDS system
Yes wrote:in2anity wrote:Yes wrote:I will opt for the highest magnification around that $2000 mark also - so thanks for the great feedback and help!
Probably don't need to spend that much. Besides the LRPs are unavailable now due to the rona. I have the 6.5-20x CDS duplex on my 223 comp gun - regularly use it to 400m for which the 223 is great.
The VX3I in 6.5-20x50 CDS with a 30mm tube are around $1850... seems like a fairly good option.
Yes wrote:Thanks, InisBineest - I will weigh up the options.
Although, from the few comments about the CDS and what I have read over the last day or so, I am not sure if it would be more marketing gimmick than real world practical.
Same goes for the 50mm vs 40mm - maybe I am too drawn to the bigger is better adage, and the 40mm would be better utilised in the field.
Thanks for all the replies, it has given a lot to think about!
Yes wrote:Thanks, InisBineest - I will weigh up the options.
Although, from the few comments about the CDS and what I have read over the last day or so, I am not sure if it would be more marketing gimmick than real world practical.
Same goes for the 50mm vs 40mm - maybe I am too drawn to the bigger is better adage, and the 40mm would be better utilised in the field.
Thanks for all the replies, it has given a lot to think about!
in2anity wrote:Yes wrote:
The EFR is handy for super close shots:
https://www.horsleyparkgunshop.com.au/p ... ine-duplex
Yes wrote:I can actually get that scope for $1400 brand new at the moment... very tempted to pull the trigger!