Diamond Jim wrote:For taking a bunny or two you don't need the latest camo-tactical, multi-choke, lever, straight-pull, muzzle brake, flash hider gun. A single barrel, break action will do the job at about $150 second hand. If your dealer tells you otherwise I'd be looking for a different store. If you want to go up a notch or two, for $750 you can buy a pretty decent used U/O or SxS gun that will do everything you want to do until you decide just how much you want to spend. Cheap things (guns included) tend to break and tend to be expensive to fix. Err on the side of simple and quality.
longneck75 wrote:I appreciate the replies, but I like the look of it. It was either this or a 17 HMR.
My question in regard to chokes is because I have read that if you don't use a choke in a gun that has the threads you will damage it, even running a brass brush can damage the threads.
I'm happy to not use them just need to know if I should buy some to not damage it.
Benevision wrote:Gonna be a little contrary and say that as far as a farm/fun gun goes, I love my Adler. Mechanically, it's very solid. The finish leaves a bit to be desired and it's a little too light in its stock form but it's still a lot of fun. Also it has a return spring.
boingk wrote:If you're after a 'practical tactical' look into the Stoeger Outback Tactical / Double Defence:
20" barrels, extractors, pic rails for lights/dots/whatever, blackened wood stock.
Love mine.
CAVEMAN wrote:The realm of the cheap Turkish shotgun is murky. I bought a brand new Pardus lever action for $250, and that was without haggling. Its had two trips to the manufacturer plus a fair bit of internal work by me. Accompanied by a we wont fix this again letter on return. I personally wouldn't recommend a Pardus
But i also have a cheapish Turkish double barrel. Now its not the fanciest or smoothest but it does work.
Now don't get caught up in the flash hider and such stuff. Yeah its cool. But not necessary for the role you want. Our forefathers did pretty well with a muzzle loading scatter gun.
womble wrote:I never really like pump actions, just the looseness of the forend i guess. Don’t like them in rifles either.
Given a choice I’d take a straight pull shotgun over a pump action shotgun.
Not having that choice though without any given reason.
I’m compliant in everything they want from me, but that is a difficult one to justify. And i’m trying to look at it from their point of view. But i don’t know what their point of view is.
If they want that compromise, surely it’s fair and reasonable to explain why.
Semi-auto is simply the right tool for the job. There’s nothing more to it than that.
If you want to help reduce vermin and pests.
Wood vs plastic. For me it’s the smell, as weird as that may sound. But it has to be wood. Otherwise something is just missing.
And I’ve put that down to smell.
longneck75 wrote:At the end of the day, it is my gun and if it turns out to be a piece of s**t then it will be my piece of s**t
womble wrote:You couldn’t have a choke with the flash hider or door breacher or whatever.
It would have cylinder bore plus come with a set of chokes for narrower patterns at longer ranges.
I have a side by side with I think the first shot is modified choke so I get a narrower pattern more concentrated area of shot, but if I miss then the second barrel is a wider pattern. I do like this gun, very natural and quick to to point, but she does hurt me with affectionate bruises.
Despite all the tactical add ons you see with new shot guns, nothing will ever improve on simply putting that brass bead on the target and boom. It works.
(Or leading the fleeing target, as in, it’s grapeshot, your enemy is trying to evade, you will give sir rabbit no quarter)
Nothing beats it. No lasers or red dots or bipods with lasers and lights and more red dots and s**t will ever improve on the front bead.
The only thing I envy about new fancy tactical shotguns is I could fit a bayonet. And frankly, why wouldn’t you.
There are better offerings on the market than Adler and pardus now. You want one with a return spring for fast follow ups.
Benellis patent expired so you have offerings based on that design which don’t fail, the above mentioned sulan arms and the stoeger due here later this year, same gun really. The berika rates well, huglu, most people seem happy with their dickensons. These are a different design. All are based on inertia driven semi autos with a couple of missing parts and they can’t be retro fitted.
There’s like 2 maybe 3 factories in Turkey that make all of them. They are built to a price, some get better parts and furniture than others, so you get what you pay for like anything else. There is one assembled here from their parts, the sks shs. They are popular and hard to find. I think they have nicer timber.
I would personally be considering something based on the benelli. I would not touch an Adler with a 10 foot pole. Allthough a short stout pole would would be good for hitting it I suppose., but I digress.
Anyway. All shotguns should be called boom sticks and they are a crapload of fun.
Personal choice, under over with ejectors every time for the win.
Oldbloke wrote:So, IMO the dealers need to be carefull how it is marketed. If marketed as very fast and large capacity mag it will attract the attention of the media, just like the Adler did.
womble wrote:I wonder if you can buy wheels for it