ZaineB wrote:wanneroo wrote:It's pretty simple, the laws need changed in Australia. To me it's a natural right for you to be able to defend yourself or other people. He did the right thing in being armed in an unknown situation.
Its bleedingly obvious that the laws here need to change drastically, the sheer imbalance of power between criminals and innocent people is disgusting. There is not only politicians to blame for this, the arsehole police are a bigger problem, police use their discretion to ignore old and outdated laws all the time, they regularly ignore the letter of the law in the interest of making their jobs easier/not trying to prosecute and investigate trivial crimes. This bloke using his firearm is trivial, he didn't discharge it and most of all no one was harmed, meaning no crime was committed against any person. He has done literally nothing wrong and those arsehole police should have just F#cked off and searched for the assailant.
Larry wrote:The law is very specific however. The act of self deffence will have to be defined and if he acted in accordance with that. He has been charged with
Possess, carry and use a controlled weapon at night;
Carry exposed firearm in a public place;
Carry a loaded firearm in a public place;
Possess or use a firearm contrary to licence;
Going armed in public
At fist glance I dont think anyone could argue that he did not actually do any of the above things. The case will be about if the act of self defence is a mitigating circumstance in the above. I think he will struggle as he was not in the act of self defence he would have to prove that he was in imminent danger. The perpetrator was not anywhere near the scene from the reported details therefore he was not in any danger and did not act in self defence of himself or anyone else.
Larry wrote:No common sense in the laws. We will wait and see what the outcome is.
I doubt he will get off as it would open up open public carry just in case self defense is needed.
JSS wrote:Just letting you guys know this bloke has now been charged. NCS has set up a Gofundme page for his legal fight. I'm sure he'd appreciate all our help.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-ron-fight-unjust-gun-charges?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
Larry wrote:I agree with you wanneroo timing is everything. If in Aus you had your gun out of the safe for some reason and a House invasion occurred (your house) by an armed intruder then there would be little problem. However if you see something down the street and think I better get my gun out of the safe then go to the other room to unlock your ammo and carry it to your neighbors the timing is all wrong on your side of the law.