disco stu wrote:Thanks all. Not really selling me either way just yet!!
Have you used it yet at sunset type times without lights Pete? Because I'm in state forests most of time spotlights are out for that, so I'm generally hunting rabbits at the low light times. That part is making me think 40mm still, but I'm yet to read anyone who has done similar with 32mm
disco stu wrote:That's a good point. The vortex is around 100g lighter, but there are some options that are about 200g lighter.
100g I don't think is really significant when it's sitting on a rifle that weighs 2.5kg or probably more. 200g probably the same if I'm being honest.
There is a bushnell ar 3-12x40 that weighs the same as the 3-9. Same features etc, just costs about $20 more. If I was going the ar optics I'm thinking going the 3-12 wouldn't be stupid just so I can use it at a later time on other rifles that I might want greater magnification on. Certainly don't need it on 22, but don't have to use it either
disco stu wrote:Thanks all.
Don't go to any effort for my sake boingk. I would think being Leupold that the difference would be less than with lower end scopes.
You sound like you're happy with the AR optics then BR? I've got the 4.5-18 in my 308. If I had known how cheap I was getting it then I would have bought 2, I think I paid $150 plus postage. They are double that now, older model I'm guessing as I can't see the 308 option these days. I've been happy enough with it so far, but I was worried 4.5 was to high initially.
Given the minimal weight difference with 32mm in my price range I'm starting to think I'm probably better going 40mm, plus the rings on rifle currently suit 40 etc etc
bigpete wrote:Nikon do a 4x32 which is both affordable and very clear even at night and is more than enough on a 22
disco stu wrote:Black powder worked great for many years also......
I'm thinking the weight is a non issue, need to stop listening to fuss pot reviews. Even the fixed power scopes aren't that much lighter, so not going to make a world of difference. Plus I happily walk around all day with a scoped howa 1500. Would need to be fitting 3 scopes or more to this 22 to be getting close to it's weight
I'm really thinking 3-9 x 40mm is going to give me something much more versatile that I can use on a range of rifles for different purposes over time.
Thanks for the responses all
bladeracer wrote:disco stu wrote:Black powder worked great for many years also......
I'm thinking the weight is a non issue, need to stop listening to fuss pot reviews. Even the fixed power scopes aren't that much lighter, so not going to make a world of difference. Plus I happily walk around all day with a scoped howa 1500. Would need to be fitting 3 scopes or more to this 22 to be getting close to it's weight
I'm really thinking 3-9 x 40mm is going to give me something much more versatile that I can use on a range of rifles for different purposes over time.
Thanks for the responses all
I think you probably need to get out and spend a day or a weekend wandering around in a state forest to be able to determine your own preferences and limitations. I think the basic Howa 1500 is around the same weight as the LA101 anyway, so get out into the bush with it.
I looked at lower-zoom scopes as well, but I wanted one scope that I could do everything with across a wide variety of chamberings and platforms. For practicing on paper, 9-power is just barely sufficient to see .22-caliber bullet holes at 100m, for me, and certainly no further. The ability to shoot small targets at longer ranges is not greatly lessened by lower zoom, but it is easier to place your bullet on a foxes head at 300m with much greater magnification than a 4-power scope offers.
If you want to borrow a nice compact Winchester 1894 .30-30 I'm sure it can be arranged. Or I can put the Ruger Compact back into a polymer stock if you just want to take a .22LR. I could put it in the laminated stock and scope it with a lightweight 4-power or 3-9x40, or the heavier 4.5-18x40 if you want to see if you're happy to carry something closer in weight to the LA101. You could borrow the Target model if you want to try it out, but it removes the option of iron sights.
If you really want to challenge yourself I have the .45-caliber Hawken Rifle with patched balls, but good luck seeing which way the rabbit went when you pulled the trigger
Oldbloke wrote:BR, DS is an 8 hour drive for you. Lol
If you shooting rabbits you only need to clearly see the rabbit. Not holes in paper.
disco stu wrote:Thanks for the offer, very generous. But like old bloke said I'm a fair way north of you. Also, this scope is for a Norinco puma bolt (can't remember model number), which I gather is a lot lighter than the LA101.
Don't make me cry with getting out in a forest! I can't leave my lga currently. I'm getting so bad I'm going to go for an overnight hike in the bush behind my house. I could walk all the way to the blue mountains only crossing 2 roads, but resisting that urge
bladeracer wrote:Oldbloke wrote:BR, DS is an 8 hour drive for you. Lol
If you shooting rabbits you only need to clearly see the rabbit. Not holes in paper.
True, but you also need to spend time practicing