Oldbloke wrote:Noisydad wrote:I’m doing my bit to ease the shortage by manufacturing bullet mold handles for those that cast their own. Pretty certain I’m theonly maker of mold handles in Australia.
Selling many Noisy?
rc42 wrote:It's always easy to blame people for not preparing but the media is always ready to jump in and ridicule 'panic buying' or any kind of 'prepping'.
Also, some states have limits on the ammunition that licensed shooters can store at home and all states have limits on powder and none of those restrictions allow for products being unavailable for several years.
Another factor is cost, in QLD we can store up to 15Kg of powder in typical homes but that could easily be several thousand dollars worth, with the same costs for a few years supply of primers and again for projectiles, most people can't afford to build up that kind of stockpile quickly and often can't even manage it over several years.
I feel the need to work on a duplex load for 9mm with magnum primers (yes they are still widely available in QLD, demand has likely reduced as nobody can get any powder anyway) and a small amount of fast pistol powder next to the primer to help ignite some readily available fast rifle powder (AR2207). The case will always need to be full and just 2207 would be useless but I'm interested to know how little fast powder would be needed at the bottom to make a usable load and preserve my dwindling stock of fast powder.
Noisydad wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Noisydad wrote:I’m doing my bit to ease the shortage by manufacturing bullet mold handles for those that cast their own. Pretty certain I’m theonly maker of mold handles in Australia.
Selling many Noisy?
Yeah moving a few. Four more went to a new home last weekend.
Just finished making new hardened dies for pressing the offset in the frames and will be making another batch very soon which I’ll put up on my ETSY shop.
The word is slowly spreading around the black powder world that they’re availabl. Wish I could advertise them on the various FB pages but that platform can’t tell the difference between a pair of pliers and a rifle unfortunately.
I often wonder how many more people are making useful shooting related products on a small scale that few know about.
bladeracer wrote:This goes for anything you intend to be doing in the future, buy early, buy bulk. When your cupboards are well stocked with food, and you don't owe anybody, you can make smarter decisions, without fear of the future.
cz515 wrote:You make an interesting point regarding cars...but more so if we include all consumer products. Basically it's a consumer society. As someone said the new religion is buying things.
Coming back to cars, there are two types of people. One who but a car because too much $$$$, others run a business or need it for work. Due to the tax treatment, it works out quite favourable to buy a new car.
For me it's a bit of that, but more importantly it's a combination of warranty and safety. With newer cars the level of safety has improved soo much. But all the new cars have so much technology in them that things are likely to break and cost a lot. Hence warranty is important, some of the newer cars are 7 or 10 year want. So as long as you keep it serviced you do not need to worry about a faulty gearbox or engine... so that fancy dowalakie braking down and you being up for 5-15k worth of repair
bladeracer wrote:
Work vehicles are a different issue, that's why I said "personal transport". As long as you can charge your customers enough to cover the cost of a newer vehicle then there can be valid reasons to borrow money for it. Likewise, if you have zero interest in maintaining your vehicle, or paying somebody else to do it, then it may be smarter to borrow for a vehicle you can't afford, but that seems a stupid way to put yourself in debt, and leave yourself without a vehicle at all if you get nailed by job loss, or illness that makes it impossible to make the payments. You are also required to comprehensively insure the bank's vehicle against loss while it is financed, another unnecessary expense you wouldn't need on a vehicle you own. It would be smarter to buy a cheaper secondhand vehicle you can afford to own, build a good relationship with a mechanic you can trust, and insure against total loss only.
In Australia we have consumer protection laws, so even no warranty still requires the product to be fit for purpose.
wanneroo wrote:One thing I have been learning is the more we can make ourselves self sufficient and not dependent on the matrix, the better off we are. We can use the matrix if we so chose but are not dependent on it and have options. It's one of the reasons why I learned to reload ammo, I could establish some sort of way of reusing my brass and making my own ammo, rather than I shoot my brass and well, then its useless and so I end up dependent on the supply chain. And I can cut my costs as well.
A lot of folks out there are in the rat race in the city totally plugged in to the matrix and they've got the debt in the house, cars, other junk, etc and they just can't get out. They gotta keep working that corporate job.
Communism_Is_Cancer wrote:9mm is so cheap at the moment. About $350 for 1000 rounds at Cleavers.
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disco stu wrote:Thought I would grab another 100 large rifle primers while at the shop this afternoon. They're now charging $17 for federal-cheapest they've got, and when they're gone that's it for who knows how long they said. Paid it grudgingly
flashman wrote:Hay got a question ......Dose the A D I plant produce powder all year round ..?
mchughcb wrote:I can tell you horsey park, safari arms, O'Reillys, gunco are all out of 30 cal 165gr nosler ballistic tips.
Fairly standard calibre, weight and core and cup. They tell me there's something like hundredor so on back order and not sure when they will arrive.
Bills Shed wrote:I took a walk into a LGS the other day and they had a bit of everything in regards to projectiles but no powder or primers that I may need in the future. 17 cal projectiles were $50.00/100.
I will continue to make my own 17 and 224 jacketed projectiles. I think I will go out and get another 25kg of sheet lead. That is a whole heap of small cal projectiles
Bills Shed wrote:Wylie. C
Yes I have used 22 mag cases but not for 6mm. I draw them down to make long heavy .224” projectiles. My heavy projectile is a 69gn, 6 diameter ogive point form with a flat base. I do not do a boat tail. I was never going to go down that route as I seldom shoot past 200m. I wish I had bought that die now.
I mainly make stuff for the Hornet and low velocity stuff in 224” projectiles. Everything from 30gn round nose to 55gn round nose. Also pointed projectiles. I have made a jacket trimmer to make a very consistent length jackets so anything is possible in relation to length and weight.
I draw jackets down to 17 cal as well. The trimmer will handle them as well so everything from 15gn to 30gn in 17cal. I have my own kiln and am starting to get into making different derim dies and draw dies. I am experimenting derimming 17 WSM cases and drawing them down for .257” projectiles. Seems to work a treat but getting / making the point form die is the hard part. Having projectiles is only one component of a loaded round. You still have to have a supply of powder and primer. Tripod helps me extrude lead wire for the cores.
Bills Shed wrote:Hi Bladeracer, yes you would have got Tripods projectiles. I do not believe you have any of mine. Please note any projectile spun to fast will fly apart. Use it within its limits and you will be fine. As for plinking only, you are dreaming. I use my projectiles exclusively in my CF rifles. Sure,I am only shooting wallaby, possum ( under permit), and the odd cat, but dead is dead. A factory projectile does not make them any more dead. Like every projectile, work up a load, make it accurate and go shooting. I am no bench rest shooter, I do not want to be. I feed my dogs and keep the paddocks clean. It saves me a bucket of cash and has paid for the initial setup several times over now. It is not for everyone. The build is what I enjoy the most.