Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

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Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

Post by barrafishing0 » 09 Aug 2014, 7:49 pm

I have a leupold VX1, has anyone had dramas with them holding 0?

I have had my Savage 340 222rem out putting a few rounds through it. I had a successful trip two afternoons ago with a kill at 249m (not a normal shot range for this shooter a marksman I aint) after several high over the head shots.

The previous day I had zeroed it at 60m in a vice and was happy thinking the damage to the spitzers front lead was spraying pills and going back to store bought ammo was the fix.

Yesterdays effort was horendous to say the least, I may as well been a scare gun in the paddock for all the good I did.

Today could not hit the side of a qld pub untill reverting to waisting a few at a unaware stump with good position and for me steadyness but the stump got away to.

Resorting to a bore site the crosshairs were 6 inchs right of the stump at 100 meters hense the cloud of dust previous off to the left someway. 250m kill two days prior, today fully 6 inch out. no bumps. clean bore, scope is 12 months old no movement in mounts/ rings.

3 clicks down on elevation from the 250m strike (that's not where I wanted to be zeroed at) and moved the mag ring from 6-7 to 12 only.

I must say my previous scope on the gun was a bit unreliable as well being a 3-9 nikko stirling gold crown from when I bought the unit 30 odd years ago, but its eye piece moved, it wobbled and did from new making the crosshairs move concideralbly if wobbled when looking through it. maybe the gun needs to be in an archive not on a shooting trip.
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Re: Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

Post by chacka » 12 Aug 2014, 3:19 pm

barrafishing0 wrote:it wobbled


You mean the scope wobbled on the mounts? Or the scope was mounted firmly and the crosshair wobbled inside?
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Re: Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

Post by AusC » 12 Aug 2014, 3:34 pm

Hey barra,

TBH there were so many changes in distance and adjustment and ammo changes there I got lost. No wonder you've having trouble confirming it's sighted in.

If you're constantly changing things out in the field you'll never sort it out. Start again at the beginning and tick things off one at a time you can work out what's happening.

1) Check everything is mounted correctly. Scope rings do come lose from the action if they're not tight enough, it happens. Ensure everything is tight and the rings aren't lose and the scope doesn't wobble or rotate in the rings.


2) Have you got some ammo you know groups? Get your self on paper at 50m and shoot a couple of groups without touching the scope. At 50m with decent ammo you should be getting 1/2 groups. Once you've got some ammo that shoots well grab a stack of it and don't change until you've confirmed the rest.


3) Get a new piece of paper at 50m and do a square test with the ammo you know shoots.

Aim at the bullseye and do 4 shots then 20 clicks right. 4 more shots then 20 clicks down. 4 shots then 20 clicks left. 4 more shots then 20 clicks up. Get a rest, take your time, do whatever you need to do to shoot your best and reduce human error as much as possible.

If all is working well you should get a little square with the groups in each corner, and be back shooting over the top of your original group. At 50m doing 20 clicks at a time the square should be about 2.5" in size and have a 1/2 inch group in each corner.


4) Take it out to 100m and do the same thing again. You should get a square 5" wide.


If this is works it would suggest everything inside your scope is holding as it should.

If you know the scope is mounted securely, the ammo is accurate and you're shooting was good and you're still getting shotgun patterns something in your scope is likely loose.
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Re: Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

Post by RDobber » 12 Aug 2014, 3:37 pm

I've had plenty of Leupold's and they've all been great.

If the above doesn't pan out, warranty?
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Re: Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

Post by barrafishing0 » 12 Aug 2014, 8:01 pm

Thanks guys,

I will start where I should have a week ago, at the beginning.

It shot so well one day, had to do a quick (bushy style) the next and it was on target when I left be it only 6 rounds used, then out again so badly I put it in the safe.

Must have mounts loose. Will check when I get back to it in a couple of weeks. I like the idea of shooting a box pattern for a scope check.

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Re: Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

Post by barrafishing0 » 12 Aug 2014, 8:09 pm

Hi Chacka,

Yep the old nikko stirling gold crown is back in the box where it should be.

The eye piece wobbled, side to side, up and down, moving the crosshairs sent it back for warranty many years ago , they sent it back claming it was ok.

Anyway water under the bridge, got this VX1 to sort out and now the way I need to start thanks to the forum.
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Re: Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

Post by fawksel » 13 Aug 2014, 10:14 am

barrafishing0 wrote:I will start where I should have a week ago, at the beginning.


I had a scope I was almost sure was busted, turned out I was changing to many things at once trying to work it out though.

Did the same and started again. Remounted it all, sighted it again and sure enough it came good. :)
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Re: Leupold VX1 4-12x wide duplex

Post by AusC » 13 Aug 2014, 10:15 am

barrafishing0 wrote:I like the idea of shooting a box pattern for a scope check.


It's a good little technique.
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Post by chacka » 13 Aug 2014, 10:16 am

Good luck with it mate :)
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