SteamedHam wrote:I'm new to using shotguns - only ever used Rifles. So I recently bought the baby-killing automatic Adler shottie, and since I'm going into pig country this week, I want to play with some slugs.
But I always get conflicting information with what slugs I can and cannot use. I've being told rifled slugs are ok, yet Sabot slugs will destroy your barrel, and vice versa.
So for clarification once and for all, what would be ideal:
http://gunco.com.au/shop/product/29482
or
http://gunco.com.au/shop/product/29408
Carter wrote:Hopefully this isn't a completely stupid bit of input but isn't it often on the side of the barrels?
I don't know much about shotties but could have sworn I've often seen it there saying what you can / can't shoot?
Carter wrote:Hopefully this isn't a completely stupid bit of input but isn't it often on the side of the barrels?
I don't know much about shotties but could have sworn I've often seen it there saying what you can / can't shoot?
Carter wrote:Hopefully this isn't a completely stupid bit of input but isn't it often on the side of the barrels?
I don't know much about shotties but could have sworn I've often seen it there saying what you can / can't shoot?
brett1868 wrote:They have a rifled barrel and require either sabot or slug ammo of reasonable quality to perform at their best
Grated wrote:brett1868 wrote:They have a rifled barrel and require either sabot or slug ammo of reasonable quality to perform at their best
With a sabot you say, thought they were basically a synonym for reduced accuracy.
Grated wrote:With a sabot you say, thought they were basically a synonym for reduced accuracy.
Polehammer wrote:From all I've read/been told.
In a smooth bore barrel shoot rifled slugs or solid slugs. Expect to hit a dinner plate at 50m tops.
In a rifled barrel ONLY use sabot slugs or you'll wreck your barrel. Expect to get 3" groups at 100+m. (Yet to hear definitively maximum accuracy). If you want to shoot buckshot or anything other than sabot you need to change your barrel back to smooth or you'll wreck it.
I've got a rifled barrel on order for my Adler straight pull. Didn't realise any of the above when I ordered it or the difficulty/cost ($145 per 50) in buying sabot slugs in Victoria or i wouldn't have bothered. All I dam say is it better be worth it or I'll be sore pissed.
bigpete wrote:You can shoot any 12g slugs in any 12g barrel and you won't wreck it,plenty of folks have and do shoot full bore lead slugs through rifled barrels and sabot slugs in smooth,results may vary though. You can even shoot shot in a rifled barrel and do no damage aside from a bit of leading.
boingk wrote:Unpick cheap target shells, replace the shot with cast slugs from the Lee mould, recrimp (i find a light trim helps) and enjoy.
I can easily hit a beer-carton-sized target at 75m with one. And if you're interested, its still 1oz of lead travelling at 1200fps... so the pressure remains the same, no barrel bulging or ruptures or any other weird mythes. Just use a cylinder choke preferably, or certainly no more than improved cylinder.
- boingk
boingk wrote:Unpick cheap target shells, replace the shot with cast slugs from the Lee mould, recrimp (i find a light trim helps) and enjoy.
I can easily hit a beer-carton-sized target at 75m with one. And if you're interested, its still 1oz of lead travelling at 1200fps... so the pressure remains the same, no barrel bulging or ruptures or any other weird mythes. Just use a cylinder choke preferably, or certainly no more than improved cylinder.
- boingk
bigpete wrote:boingk wrote:Unpick cheap target shells, replace the shot with cast slugs from the Lee mould, recrimp (i find a light trim helps) and enjoy.
I can easily hit a beer-carton-sized target at 75m with one. And if you're interested, its still 1oz of lead travelling at 1200fps... so the pressure remains the same, no barrel bulging or ruptures or any other weird mythes. Just use a cylinder choke preferably, or certainly no more than improved cylinder.
- boingk
Actually pressure is less due to liquid dynamics
Oldbloke wrote:bigpete wrote:boingk wrote:Unpick cheap target shells, replace the shot with cast slugs from the Lee mould, recrimp (i find a light trim helps) and enjoy.
I can easily hit a beer-carton-sized target at 75m with one. And if you're interested, its still 1oz of lead travelling at 1200fps... so the pressure remains the same, no barrel bulging or ruptures or any other weird mythes. Just use a cylinder choke preferably, or certainly no more than improved cylinder.
- boingk
Actually pressure is less due to liquid dynamics
bigpete wrote:Oldbloke wrote:bigpete wrote:boingk wrote:Unpick cheap target shells, replace the shot with cast slugs from the Lee mould, recrimp (i find a light trim helps) and enjoy.
I can easily hit a beer-carton-sized target at 75m with one. And if you're interested, its still 1oz of lead travelling at 1200fps... so the pressure remains the same, no barrel bulging or ruptures or any other weird mythes. Just use a cylinder choke preferably, or certainly no more than improved cylinder.
- boingk
Actually pressure is less due to liquid dynamics
As a load of shot is propelled forward,because its not solid,it is also forced outwards into the barrel,thereby creating more pressure than an equally weighted solid projectile. The term is actually fluid dynamics ,not liquid dynamics.