ADI PRIMERS

[Oldbloke]

OK. I'm not disclosing the source, but I believe it to be reliable. (I guess it's possible I'm wrong but don't think so)

They were making them, but no longer have the equipment.

I understand it was a bussiness decision.
(not very smart IMO)

I'm confident that they could make them again but would require some investment in equipment and planing.

Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

[No1_49er]

Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

C'mon guys, increase your knowledge base a bit.
Just who is it do you think owns ADI?
Anybody heard of Thales? Apparently a fairly large FRENCH conglomerate.

[dnedative]

I don't actually know anyone who would bother with shyte like Norinco so there's that in my meagre defence

I'm a Norinco fan.

Likewise, they make one of the best steel frame 1911's money can buy.
Might not be finished particularly well but nobody else forges frames and slides from 5100 chrome steel.

Don't believe Thales would buy Chinese primers either, Taiwan, South Korea or the Phillipines - yeah, but I cant see buying anything defense wise from China getting approved and given the climate I wouldnt expect them to allow the export anyway.

[Oldbloke]

Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

C'mon guys, increase your knowledge base a bit.
Just who is it do you think owns ADI?
Anybody heard of Thales? Apparently a fairly large FRENCH conglomerate.

Correct

[deye243]

I don't actually know anyone who would bother with shyte like Norinco so there's that in my meagre defence

I'm a Norinco fan.

Likewise, they make one of the best steel frame 1911's money can buy.
Might not be finished particularly well but nobody else forges frames and slides from 5100 chrome steel.

Don't believe Thales would buy Chinese primers either, Taiwan, South Korea or the Phillipines - yeah, but I cant see buying anything defense wise from China getting approved and given the climate I wouldnt expect them to allow the export anyway.

Well it did not surprise me 1 bit

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaki ... 003110a30e

[Diamond Jim]

...unless people want to pay $17/1000 for primers in 2 years when things settle down and primers maybe back to $10 or less ...

$17/1000? I can't remember ever seeing primers at that price. The last time I bought small pistol primers (about 18 months ago) they were around $60/1000. Did you possibly mean $17/100?

[Oldbloke]

...unless people want to pay $17/1000 for primers in 2 years when things settle down and primers maybe back to $10 or less ...

$17/1000? I can't remember ever seeing primers at that price. The last time I bought small pistol primers (about 18 months ago) they were around $60/1000. Did you possibly mean $17/100?

Yeh, just before covid hit I paid $45/1000. I thought that was incredibly cheap at the time.

[cz515]

...unless people want to pay $17/1000 for primers in 2 years when things settle down and primers maybe back to $10 or less ...

$17/1000? I can't remember ever seeing primers at that price. The last time I bought small pistol primers (about 18 months ago) they were around $60/1000. Did you possibly mean $17/100?

Yes that probability it $17/100

[Marlin44]

Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

C'mon guys, increase your knowledge base a bit.
Just who is it do you think owns ADI?
Anybody heard of Thales? Apparently a fairly large FRENCH conglomerate.

Thales do not own ADI.
ADI facilities are Govt owned and run by contracted defense suppliers.
There will be primers made here within next 5 years under Sovereign Capability planning.

[Oldbloke]

You are of course correct. "contracted to operate"

Perhaps they own the name "ADI"?

[Lazarus]

Actually I'm surprised too. You would think they would source them from a friendly. Say French, yanks poms.

C'mon guys, increase your knowledge base a bit.
Just who is it do you think owns ADI?
Anybody heard of Thales? Apparently a fairly large FRENCH conglomerate.

Thales do not own ADI.
ADI facilities are Govt owned and run by contracted defense suppliers.
There will be primers made here within next 5 years under Sovereign Capability planning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_Au ... es%20Group.

[Oldbloke]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_Au ... es%20Group

Lol. How simple.

NIOA is now sharing some of the facilities.

[Marlin44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_Australia#:~:text=Thales%20Australia%20(formerly%20Australian%20Defence,defence%20technology%20conglomerate%20Thales%20Group

Lol. How simple.

NIOA is now sharing some of the facilities.

Well I stand corrected.

I bet Thales is not impressed with that.

[flashman]

Well its happen to me for the first time, get a saturday morning off get up early do a run of my 3 LGS to have a bit of a sqizz , for primers ,powder , and projectiles and zilch ,nada at all 3 well what will i do ???? .

[Larry]

Buy factory ammo and say three Hail Marys as penance for not being a prepper and having a ten year rolling supply which at this stage would now be a 7 year supply. Good Luck.

[bladeracer]

Well its happen to me for the first time, get a saturday morning off get up early do a run of my 3 LGS to have a bit of a sqizz , for primers ,powder , and projectiles and zilch ,nada at all 3 well what will i do ???? .

What are you chasing? Dealers down here have most primers and most ADI powders.
Bullets can be a problem if you want something specific.

[No1Mk3]

ADI uses primers from the US. A couple of friends I know inspected the plant before the fire and saw the packaging, spoke with many of the technicians as part of their job as Material Scientists at DSTO. Most of our primers come from Federal and CCI.

[flashman]

After AR2206H ,2208, Bench MK 2 ,224 projectiles ,7.62 as well .......... no joy

[bladeracer]

After AR2206H ,2208, Bench MK 2 ,224 projectiles ,7.62 as well .......... no joy

The bullets you can order online.
But for the powders you'll have to email or call every dealer within a couple hours drive.
I did message you last week but you haven't checked your messages yet.
By "7.62" do you mean .303/7.62x54/39 bullets?

[Oldbloke]

Bloody hell. I just spotted on a NZ Web site they are bidding for a box of 100 Winchester large rifle primers and they are at $51 nzd and climbing.

Oops, my bad now $55 and climbing. Sh1t.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/3862729330

[Blr243]

Large rifle in oz available I thought ? Been ages since I checked because I bought 2000 one day and not started useing them yet ... thank the lord LR is what i use mostly

[bladeracer]

Large rifle in oz available I thought ? Been ages since I checked because I bought 2000 one day and not started using them yet ... thank the lord LR is what i use mostly

I haven't heard of any supply issues with LR or LRM primers.
I did suggest a while back that if I only used SR and didn't have SR primers I'd be modifying some of my brass to take LR primers just so I could shoot. Perhaps all the fox shooters and pistol shooters are doing that and buying up or the LR's

[Oldbloke]

Gents, it's NZ not here. Lol

[bladeracer]

Gents, it's NZ not here. Lol

No, I saw that, but if they're having issues it might be something that'll hit us too.
Are they devoid of pistol primers, fast powders and small rifle primers like us?

[Oldbloke]

I get the impression they are short of most components.

[wanneroo]

I think everyone around the world is short on primers or prices are high.

With some new production coming online in the USA that might help in the long term. Primers really shouldn't cost all that much.