Billo wrote:Peak China has passed, an aging and falling population, debt laden families with housing they can ill afford. Wages that cant keep pace with inflation. GDP thats flatlining .
Chinese Real estate and the stock market has tanked more than 25% over fears of Building company implosions. 2nd and 3rd tier Banks at risk of going under due to lax lending regulation and highly speculative lending.
One of Xi Jing Pings problems is he risks losing face over Taiwan, he has made it part of his Legacy, its something the CCP propoganda machine has taught for over 80 years in the schooling system that Taiwan is part of China. He is wedged badly. Fark him and his plans
wanneroo wrote:Billo wrote:Peak China has passed, an aging and falling population, debt laden families with housing they can ill afford. Wages that cant keep pace with inflation. GDP thats flatlining .
Chinese Real estate and the stock market has tanked more than 25% over fears of Building company implosions. 2nd and 3rd tier Banks at risk of going under due to lax lending regulation and highly speculative lending.
One of Xi Jing Pings problems is he risks losing face over Taiwan, he has made it part of his Legacy, its something the CCP propoganda machine has taught for over 80 years in the schooling system that Taiwan is part of China. He is wedged badly. Fark him and his plans
I would concur. China's current hype reminds me of Japan in the late 80s, they are gonna take over the world and all that. Not to say China doesn't pose a major threat to the world, it certainly does, but also one cannot ignore the major structure and political issues in China right now. They've got a ton of internal problems and even political problems as Xi faces a threat from the Zemin faction. In addition if Xi pulls the Taiwan trigger and fails, he's done. Amphibious invasions are tricky to pull off. For the USA to do it in WW2 as we did, by 1945 we had 16 million men in arms and had militarized the entire economy with everything devoted to the war effort.
Oldbloke wrote:Lazarus wrote:Here's some interesting views from Jim Molan.
Personally I think old Jimbo is a bit of a knob jockey, politically, but he does know his sh!t on the military arena.
Peter Harchers thoughts on Molan's view of the near future.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/eagle ... 5b673.html
Read that the other day.
Chatting at LGS today and that subject popped up.
Bloke behind the counted suggested "pine gap" would be first to be hit.
I reckon he could be right. And it would be "on" immediately.
cz515 wrote:
Like Russia, China is interested in local politics. If They are likely to goto war it will not be Australia, Europe or America... but Taiwan.
Seriously doesn't make sense... what does it newspapers making up stories to scare people and sell news.
cz515 wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Lazarus wrote:Here's some interesting views from Jim Molan.
Personally I think old Jimbo is a bit of a knob jockey, politically, but he does know his sh!t on the military arena.
Peter Harchers thoughts on Molan's view of the near future.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/eagle ... 5b673.html
Read that the other day.
Chatting at LGS today and that subject popped up.
Bloke behind the counted suggested "pine gap" would be first to be hit.
I reckon he could be right. And it would be "on" immediately.
Jesus who wrote that.
I have said this before. And it holds true now even more then before.
Like Russia, China is interested in local politics. If They are likely to goto war it will not be Australia, Europe or America... but Taiwan.
Honestly what benefit will China get from a war with America. Just come up with a valid reason.
Firstly China is the largest US debtor, so it will loose hundreds of trillions of dollars. When America says f u. Have fun getting the money
Secondly America/Europe is China's largest and most profitable external markets. Week would you attack them to directly harm your own economy.
Seriously doesn't make sense... what does it newspapers making up stories to scare people and sell news.
mchughcb wrote:wanneroo wrote:Billo wrote:Peak China has passed, an aging and falling population, debt laden families with housing they can ill afford. Wages that cant keep pace with inflation. GDP thats flatlining .
Chinese Real estate and the stock market has tanked more than 25% over fears of Building company implosions. 2nd and 3rd tier Banks at risk of going under due to lax lending regulation and highly speculative lending.
One of Xi Jing Pings problems is he risks losing face over Taiwan, he has made it part of his Legacy, its something the CCP propoganda machine has taught for over 80 years in the schooling system that Taiwan is part of China. He is wedged badly. Fark him and his plans
I would concur. China's current hype reminds me of Japan in the late 80s, they are gonna take over the world and all that. Not to say China doesn't pose a major threat to the world, it certainly does, but also one cannot ignore the major structure and political issues in China right now. They've got a ton of internal problems and even political problems as Xi faces a threat from the Zemin faction. In addition if Xi pulls the Taiwan trigger and fails, he's done. Amphibious invasions are tricky to pull off. For the USA to do it in WW2 as we did, by 1945 we had 16 million men in arms and had militarized the entire economy with everything devoted to the war effort.
Why you think 20M locked in that island can't be blockaded into submission?
Far easier and less stress for China than a frontal assault
Lazarus wrote:I hope you're right CZ, I truly do.
Optimism, however doesn't offer much protection from aggressive superpower neighbours.
We have to plan as though it's a certainty, otherwise our failure to do so just might turn out to be the extra incentive needed.
cz515 wrote:OB are you sure you yourself not CCP. as you love to force others whatever you want them to say. Never said they were peace loving, infact i said they are likely to attack Taiwan.
What i keep saying is it's highly unlikely they will attack Australia. Which is evident even now, as the softening of their posture with the change in federal government.
Even wannaroo is saying they are less likely to attack anyone.
Laz, Mate i am not an expert... no one is, i think media here would like to scare the people as they feel it gets them more clicks.
You are new here, so ill mention my other theory. I believe it will be almost impossible for Australia army to defend against a Chinese occupation force if they decide to attack Australia, but more importantly it will be almost impossible for the Chinese to defend Australian occupation as we are such a large land mass with strategic targets spread soo far apart.
animalpest wrote:Part of our north could be readily occupied. The problem will always be supplies. The only way that can be sustained is to have supplies close by.
on_one_wheel wrote:animalpest wrote:Part of our north could be readily occupied. The problem will always be supplies. The only way that can be sustained is to have supplies close by.
They'd thrive on the bugs, bats and toads.
It'd be like walking into one of their own supermarkets
Oldbloke wrote:cz515 wrote:OB are you sure you yourself not CCP. as you love to force others whatever you want them to say. Never said they were peace loving, infact i said they are likely to attack Taiwan.
What i keep saying is it's highly unlikely they will attack Australia. Which is evident even now, as the softening of their posture with the change in federal government.
Even wannaroo is saying they are less likely to attack anyone.
Laz, Mate i am not an expert... no one is, i think media here would like to scare the people as they feel it gets them more clicks.
You are new here, so ill mention my other theory. I believe it will be almost impossible for Australia army to defend against a Chinese occupation force if they decide to attack Australia, but more importantly it will be almost impossible for the Chinese to defend Australian occupation as we are such a large land mass with strategic targets spread soo far apart.
Your incredible. Apparently I can't express an opinion.
And you don't force/ push your opinion?
And I might add. Your tone has always been that CCP are great, and USA is shet.
Oldbloke wrote:FMD, it's like a 3 year olds tantrums.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wi ... n-87981101
And these dick heads say they want to be spoken to and treated with dignity and respect.
The more they carry on, the less respect the world will give them.
Oldbloke wrote::D Yep, did the Chinese fast train and,
NZ
Italy
China
Indonesia
UK
All free too.
Got SFA to do with this topic though.
Oldbloke wrote:BTW, FYI they DGAF About tin hat wearing plumbers either.
mchughcb wrote:Oldbloke wrote::D Yep, did the Chinese fast train and,
NZ
Italy
China
Indonesia
UK
All free too.
Got SFA to do with this topic though.
Sure you did. In your sleep.
mchughcb wrote:Oldbloke wrote:BTW, FYI they DGAF About tin hat wearing plumbers either.
Maybe but I wasn't lecturing them either on their behaviour when I was working there either.
Oldbloke wrote:FMD, it's like a 3 year olds tantrums.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wi ... n-87981101
And these dick heads say they want to be spoken to and treated with dignity and respect.
The more they carry on, the less respect the world will give them.