big matt wrote:I think I know the answer...but I thought I'd ask a question that may not have been asked before.... it may have been...
If you purchased a firearm in NSW as a Cat A or B and it's been reclassified as a Cat D for some stupid (appearance law) perhaps...
And you're allowed to keep it because the law changed AFTER you purchased it....(granfathered) sic
If someone else (licensed) wants to use it on ur property I'm assuming that they must have a Cat D license...yes?
It sounds silly but I assume that'd be a yes...because of the "new category"...
Lazarus wrote:In NSW, category D firearms are self-loading, as far as I'm aware it's not possible to convert a Cat A or B to semi-auto.
Appearance is a different ball of rice, that is an esoteric issue depending on the "opinion" of the police inspecting them.
It took me over 3 months to get approval for an XLR chassis because: 1 it was black and scary, 2 it was a "military" looking billet chassis, but worst of all, it has adjustable length of pull.
It was finally approved because the LOP adjustment needed an Allen key, if it was the cam-lock type it is too dangerous FFS.
bladeracer wrote:Lazarus wrote:In NSW, category D firearms are self-loading, as far as I'm aware it's not possible to convert a Cat A or B to semi-auto.
Appearance is a different ball of rice, that is an esoteric issue depending on the "opinion" of the police inspecting them.
It took me over 3 months to get approval for an XLR chassis because: 1 it was black and scary, 2 it was a "military" looking billet chassis, but worst of all, it has adjustable length of pull.
It was finally approved because the LOP adjustment needed an Allen key, if it was the cam-lock type it is too dangerous FFS.
You need to get approval to buy a chassis?
As long as it doesn't make the rifle any shorter in NSW I'm surprised you even have tell anybody you have it.
rc42 wrote:QLD did a re-classification of lever action shotguns from A to B
Since all licenses have both it made little difference, although it would have blocked using them on shotgun ranges that only had cat A approvals.
NT tried to move the Savage A22R lever release 22LR from A to C and notified owners that they weren't licensed for it so had to dispose of it at their own expense,
fortunately that got reverted.
I suspect any future re-classifications will also require owners to dispose of it themselves (before they get a visit to take everything) and nothing will be 'grandfathered' again.
bladeracer wrote:rc42 wrote:QLD did a re-classification of lever action shotguns from A to B
Since all licenses have both it made little difference, although it would have blocked using them on shotgun ranges that only had cat A approvals.
NT tried to move the Savage A22R lever release 22LR from A to C and notified owners that they weren't licensed for it so had to dispose of it at their own expense,
fortunately that got reverted.
I suspect any future re-classifications will also require owners to dispose of it themselves (before they get a visit to take everything) and nothing will be 'grandfathered' again.
All mainland states moved lever-guns over 5rds to CatD, lever-guns up to 5rds are now CatB in most states.
Lever-guns up to 5rd are now CatB in Qld, NT, WA, SA, NSW, ACT, and Vic.
Lever-guns over 5rd are now CatD in Qld, NT, WA, SA, NSW, ACT and Vic.
In Tasmania lever-guns are still CatA regardless of capacity as far as I can find.
https://fas.police.tas.gov.au/obtaining-a-licence/categories-firearms-licence/
Some states do still allow you to supervise an unlicenced person on private property (except CatH in all states), whether this extends to CatC/D though I don't know.
Moondoggy wrote:Isn't the 5rd limit (For Cat B) only applicable to lever action shotguns?
Any lever action shotgun having greater then 5rd are classified as Cat D
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/as ... _Sheet.pdf
There is nothing there regarding lever action rifle (not lever action shotgun) with a greater then 5rd magazine capacity having to be a Cat D.
big matt wrote:I think I know the answer...but I thought I'd ask a question that may not have been asked before.... it may have been...
If you purchased a firearm in NSW as a Cat A or B and it's been reclassified as a Cat D for some stupid (appearance law) perhaps...
And you're allowed to keep it because the law changed AFTER you purchased it....(granfathered) sic
If someone else (licensed) wants to use it on ur property I'm assuming that they must have a Cat D license...yes?
It sounds silly but I assume that'd be a yes...because of the "new category"...
Wiler wrote:The thing is if the gun's been reclassified as cat D you shouldn't be able to have it on an AB license
what the NSW registry should be doing in this instance is either issuing a general permit for it or require it to be turned in
But this is the NSW registry they kind of just do whatever.
Anyway to answer your question I've dealt with something similar with a berika black ops, now the black ops here in NSW is cat B
But most dealers here think it's prohibited, what doesn't help is when the registry will give conflicting information to dealers.
Anyway I wanted to sell this thing 1st shop wouldn't do the transfer as the registry told them it was a prohibited firearm
2nd shop had outdated information that it was prohibited and wouldn't transfer it
The 3rd shop (being the one I originally got it from) would do the transfer
Now it's worth reiterating that this gun when I bought it and when I sold it was NSW legal
So my advice would be to just go to a shop or 3 and transfer it like any other gun, after all it's registered as a cat A/B right?