Lazarus wrote:As OB said pete, horses for courses.
We all have different tastes.
Some people like big fat Harleys that weigh as much as a small moon and handle like a pig on a skateboard, I prefer bikes that go and handle like a bike, not an overloaded ferry.
Vive la difference mate.
deye243 wrote:Lazarus wrote:As OB said pete, horses for courses.
We all have different tastes.
Some people like big fat Harleys that weigh as much as a small moon and handle like a pig on a skateboard, I prefer bikes that go and handle like a bike, not an overloaded ferry.
Vive la difference mate.
Haha I hear you on that one about the bikes I also prefer bikes that handle like bikes and sound like they go like the Clappers instead of an elongated fart
bigpete wrote:Hell,I don't even want a heavy gun even if I'm shooting from a vehicle.
JohnV wrote:bigpete wrote:Hell,I don't even want a heavy gun even if I'm shooting from a vehicle.
WEATHERBY VANGUARD VARMINT BLUED SYNTHETIC .223 REM short barrel .
The reason I go this over a Howa is that Howa have screwed up the .223 with the mini action . Not allowing any room to seat out projectiles . A slightly heavier barrel is good for shooting from a vehicle it steadies the hold , reduces barrel heating and lessens recoil . Hinged floor plate model never has magazine issues and you can usually extend the length of it to accommodate longer overall cartridges .
JohnV wrote:bigpete wrote:Hell,I don't even want a heavy gun even if I'm shooting from a vehicle.
WEATHERBY VANGUARD VARMINT BLUED SYNTHETIC .223 REM short barrel .
The reason I go this over a Howa is that Howa have screwed up the .223 with the mini action . Not allowing any room to seat out projectiles . A slightly heavier barrel is good for shooting from a vehicle it steadies the hold , reduces barrel heating and lessens recoil . Hinged floor plate model never has magazine issues and you can usually extend the length of it to accommodate longer overall cartridges .
bigpete wrote:JohnV wrote:bigpete wrote:Hell,I don't even want a heavy gun even if I'm shooting from a vehicle.
WEATHERBY VANGUARD VARMINT BLUED SYNTHETIC .223 REM short barrel .
The reason I go this over a Howa is that Howa have screwed up the .223 with the mini action . Not allowing any room to seat out projectiles . A slightly heavier barrel is good for shooting from a vehicle it steadies the hold , reduces barrel heating and lessens recoil . Hinged floor plate model never has magazine issues and you can usually extend the length of it to accommodate longer overall cartridges .
I've done PLENTY of shooting from a vehicle,and stand by my choice. My weatherby vanguard 22-250 standard weight barrel is plenty heavy enough,especially when it has a torch mounted to it.
Royalfriz wrote:Hello. Just purchased a Tika 223. Zeroed it in at the range and got 150mm grouping with 15 rounds at 200m. That should be okay for hunting eh?
Royalfriz wrote:Hello. Just purchased a Tika 223. Zeroed it in at the range and got 150mm grouping with 15 rounds at 200m. That should be okay for hunting eh?
JohnV wrote:Avoid shooting at targets on windy days if you can .
Lazarus wrote:JohnV wrote:Avoid shooting at targets on windy days if you can .
I would disagree with that.
Wind is almost always a factor, practice in the wind is key to learning how to deal with it.
JohnV wrote:The only other thing is , is he shooting standing offhand ? If so then the groups are not too bad .
I once coached a guy in Germany and he sent me images and videos of him shooting . Man it was horrible , like about a dozen things being done wrong and even the bench was a flimsy shaky mess. 6 months later with that all cleaned up and reloading advice he is now one of the best shots in his club . To sort out issues you need a lot of detailed information including images otherwise it is a lot of guessing . People should not be reluctant to post what they are doing even if it's wrong because we all had to learn from someone .
bladeracer wrote:Royalfriz wrote:Hello. Just purchased a Tika 223. Zeroed it in at the range and got 150mm grouping with 15 rounds at 200m. That should be okay for hunting eh?
It will depend on how large your target area is. On rabbits and foxes that would limit your shots to about 100m max.
How were you shooting? Off a bench or prone? Off a bag or bipod? With a rear bag?
Can you shoot significantly tighter groups at 50m or 100m?
In the field, leaning against a fence post or resting across a rolled up jacket for example, your groups will likely be larger than you'll see when shooting off a bench under perfect conditions.
150mm under field conditions would be fine for bigger stuff, like goats and deer, with more potent cartridges, like .308 or .30-06. But the .223 is on the light side for bigger targets. Virtually any .223 rifle should be easily capable of around 30mm at 100m, or 60mm at 200m.
If you're new at shooting you really need a decent .22LR so you can simply spend dozens of hours and thousands of shots practicing on different targets at different distances. What you learn with the .22LR will translate to other rifles.
Royalfriz wrote:bladeracer wrote:Royalfriz wrote:Hello. Just purchased a Tika 223. Zeroed it in at the range and got 150mm grouping with 15 rounds at 200m. That should be okay for hunting eh?
It will depend on how large your target area is. On rabbits and foxes that would limit your shots to about 100m max.
How were you shooting? Off a bench or prone? Off a bag or bipod? With a rear bag?
Can you shoot significantly tighter groups at 50m or 100m?
In the field, leaning against a fence post or resting across a rolled up jacket for example, your groups will likely be larger than you'll see when shooting off a bench under perfect conditions.
150mm under field conditions would be fine for bigger stuff, like goats and deer, with more potent cartridges, like .308 or .30-06. But the .223 is on the light side for bigger targets. Virtually any .223 rifle should be easily capable of around 30mm at 100m, or 60mm at 200m.
If you're new at shooting you really need a decent .22LR so you can simply spend dozens of hours and thousands of shots practicing on different targets at different distances. What you learn with the .22LR will translate to other rifles.
I was using a pillow under the barrel and on my elbows. I was using a three round mag. Every three round group was about an inch to inch half groups. Every time I loaded up again my position obviously changed so I grouped the whole lot rather than each three round groups.
bladeracer wrote:Royalfriz wrote:bladeracer wrote:Royalfriz wrote:Hello. Just purchased a Tika 223. Zeroed it in at the range and got 150mm grouping with 15 rounds at 200m. That should be okay for hunting eh?
It will depend on how large your target area is. On rabbits and foxes that would limit your shots to about 100m max.
How were you shooting? Off a bench or prone? Off a bag or bipod? With a rear bag?
Can you shoot significantly tighter groups at 50m or 100m?
In the field, leaning against a fence post or resting across a rolled up jacket for example, your groups will likely be larger than you'll see when shooting off a bench under perfect conditions.
150mm under field conditions would be fine for bigger stuff, like goats and deer, with more potent cartridges, like .308 or .30-06. But the .223 is on the light side for bigger targets. Virtually any .223 rifle should be easily capable of around 30mm at 100m, or 60mm at 200m.
If you're new at shooting you really need a decent .22LR so you can simply spend dozens of hours and thousands of shots practicing on different targets at different distances. What you learn with the .22LR will translate to other rifles.
I was using a pillow under the barrel and on my elbows. I was using a three round mag. Every three round group was about an inch to inch half groups. Every time I loaded up again my position obviously changed so I grouped the whole lot rather than each three round groups.
Nice, it sounds like the rifle is shooting very well then, you just need to work on your own input. Does your scope have parallax adjustment?
bladeracer wrote:Royalfriz wrote:bladeracer wrote:Royalfriz wrote:Hello. Just purchased a Tika 223. Zeroed it in at the range and got 150mm grouping with 15 rounds at 200m. That should be okay for hunting eh?
It will depend on how large your target area is. On rabbits and foxes that would limit your shots to about 100m max.
How were you shooting? Off a bench or prone? Off a bag or bipod? With a rear bag?
Can you shoot significantly tighter groups at 50m or 100m?
In the field, leaning against a fence post or resting across a rolled up jacket for example, your groups will likely be larger than you'll see when shooting off a bench under perfect conditions.
150mm under field conditions would be fine for bigger stuff, like goats and deer, with more potent cartridges, like .308 or .30-06. But the .223 is on the light side for bigger targets. Virtually any .223 rifle should be easily capable of around 30mm at 100m, or 60mm at 200m.
If you're new at shooting you really need a decent .22LR so you can simply spend dozens of hours and thousands of shots practicing on different targets at different distances. What you learn with the .22LR will translate to other rifles.
I was using a pillow under the barrel and on my elbows. I was using a three round mag. Every three round group was about an inch to inch half groups. Every time I loaded up again my position obviously changed so I grouped the whole lot rather than each three round groups.
Nice, it sounds like the rifle is shooting very well then, you just need to work on your own input. Does your scope have parallax adjustment?
Royalfriz wrote:Actually mate it does have parallax adjustment. I didn’t even notice it..
bladeracer wrote:Royalfriz wrote:Actually mate it does have parallax adjustment. I didn’t even notice it..