Royalfriz wrote:Any tips on zeroing your rifle at the range which is in metres and your scope is yards. Is there much of a difference?
Biscuits wrote:It doesn’t matter if you are measuring off the reticle, MoA is an angular measurement.
If you are going to approximate 1 MoA as being 1 inch at 100 yards, then using 100 metres would be a bit inaccurate. 1 MoA is 2.9cm at 100 metres.
But that is for adjusting your turrets. Once it is zeroed at a certain range, it is zeroed.
Royalfriz wrote:Any tips on zeroing your rifle at the range which is in metres and your scope is yards. Is there much of a difference?
Royalfriz wrote:MOA is yards and the range is in metres and I was just seeing how much difference it will make.
animalpest wrote:Biscuits wrote:It doesn’t matter if you are measuring off the reticle, MoA is an angular measurement.
If you are going to approximate 1 MoA as being 1 inch at 100 yards, then using 100 metres would be a bit inaccurate. 1 MoA is 2.9cm at 100 metres.
But that is for adjusting your turrets. Once it is zeroed at a certain range, it is zeroed.
I am not sure I am with you here. Yes, MOA is an angle, but really so is adjusting an inch at 100, which is 2 @ 200, 3 @ 300 and so forth. But we are not talking MOA here, we are discussing zeroing, which is adjusting your scope in inches or milrad (10mm). That is what scope adjustments do, change a quarter inch per click and so forth.
MOA is really irrelevant to zeroing most scopes.
Lazarus wrote:Makes no substantive difference mate.
When you're zeroing, at say 100m the difference between that and 100 yards is only about 8.5m and fall of shot in that small distance is negligible.
Don't confuse yourself worrying about that.
Thanks mate..
Just remember that one 1/4 inch click at 100m is 1/2 inch at 200m, 3/4 at 300m etc.
No1Mk3 wrote:No difference at all in regard to achieving zero. You adjust point of impact to point of aim by minutes of angle, therefore if your point of impact is 4 minutes left and 2 minutes low from your point of aim then those are your adjustments and this holds true whether you are at 100m, 100yds 2000 miles. your rifle will be zero at whatever your range is, just remember to shoot various ranges and determine your drop in minutes,
Royalfriz wrote:Lazarus wrote:Makes no substantive difference mate.
When you're zeroing, at say 100m the difference between that and 100 yards is only about 8.5m and fall of shot in that small distance is negligible.
Don't confuse yourself worrying about that.
Thanks mate..
Just remember that one 1/4 inch click at 100m is 1/2 inch at 200m, 3/4 at 300m etc.
animalpest wrote:Of my 35 scopes on rifles, all are 1 click = quarter inch. None are in MOA.
animalpest wrote:One of my rifles has a drop of 47.5" at 500yds, which requires 9.5 inches of adjustment to be on the 500yd target. That's 38 clicks.
animalpest wrote:"A scope adjustment should be in MOA not inches".
That's not true.
If I want to work out how much to adjust the scope to zero it, then you use inches. Not MOA
If I want to work out how much drop there will be at a certain distance, then it as well as holdover is in inches. Not MOA
If I want to work out how much windbags to use, then that will be in inches.
The only use for MOA is measuring group size.
Of my 35 scopes on rifles, all are 1 click = quarter inch. None are in MOA.
in2anity wrote:WRONG. They print, '1 click = 1/4" / 100 yd' or similar on scopes as a convenient rounded off value, because practically you will never detect that lost 0.01175". Pretty much all scopes will still technically "click" relative to a fraction of angular degrees or radians.
animalpest wrote:Either way, when you want to zero your scope, you look at the bullet holes, measure how many inches of adjustment you need and turn the turrets that many inches.
One of my rifles has a drop of 47.5" at 500yds, which requires 9.5 inches of adjustment to be on the 500yd target. That's 38 clicks.
in2anity wrote:Indeed we are splitting hairs here; in reality the point of impact will change day to day. And in a target shooting setting, we have the opportunity to tweak, rendering such nuanced argument kinda irrelevant...
Royalfriz wrote:Any tips on zeroing your rifle at the range which is in metres and your scope is yards. Is there much of a difference?
Lazarus wrote:""What brand of scopes offer 1/4" clicks?
Please post pics of these scopes that are calibrated in quarter-inch clicks as I'd hate to end up with something like that.""
I only have 5 scopes, the two I use, a Hawke and an Athlon both have moa marked on the turrets as does a Simmons 22mag, but a Nikko and a Bushnell Banner which I suspect is a clone both are marked 1/4".