M44

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In my short rifle collection

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[wrenchman]

nice

[No1Mk3]

Nice one, I like the 44, one of the few carbines that can night blind me as good as a Colombian Police 30-06! Is it Russian? I can't quite make out the receiver marks from your photo, we recently had a gorgeous Polish 44 come through that the owner had been shooting with old Eastern Bloc ammo that he thought was non-corrosive so he didn't clean it well, Bore had more pits and craters than the moon.

[Vince24]

SHV's stock is marked with 02, this is the code for the Hungarian Mosin - and the B for Budapest. 11 would be for Poland from memory.

Yes I would agree the M44 is a nice toy, not the one you want to shoot every day, but not one you want to sell either!

Mine is a Russian one from 1946, blueing is 100%, not a mark on the wood and pristine barrel.
Have not handloaded for this one yet, the picture is my best group so far at 100m, with PPU match ammo (not available here in Oz...)
The muzzle blast is visible even by day!

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[No1Mk3]

Good spot Vince, I was so taken with trying to see the receiver I never noticed the stock mark. Mine is also Russian, Izhevsk, not pristine but still in good to very good condition and shoots well.

[SHV]

Thanks guys
It’s really a toy rather than a tool
Ammo is expensive and rifle is heavy
But it looks good and should be fun to shoot

[Mattraff]

Nice. I have a Polish M44 that is in near new condition. It is finished to a high standard and would shame many new budget rifles. I have a scout scope fitted to the rear sight base that is solid but comes off without leaving any damage and a cheap Chinese rubber recoil pad. I have it sighted in to hit the 500m metal gong at my local range.

[wrenchman]

I got one when they were coming in and could be had for 100 dollars u.s. I never did anything with it my son took a liking to it so I gave it to him

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[Vince24]

Hey SHV

So do you shoot this beautiful beast?

For mine I was thinking of using the Speer 150gn projectiles with 2206H, to minimise recoil. In a PPU case. It's in the list for next year.
Has anybody here handloaded for his M44?

[No1Mk3]

G'day Vince,
I use the same load in my 44 as the 91, 91/30 and PU. Hornady 303 174g HPBT ((.3105") with 50.5g of AR2209. When I used to load 150g with AR2206H it was 46.6g which shot OK.

[Vince24]

Hey thanks for the information, very useful, I was planning for a load development from 45 to 48 grains of 2206H, so this confirms that is a reasonable range.
I note that GRT gives 18 joules at 46 grains, 20 joules at 48 grains, at 22 joules with your 2209 load.

It's not too bad compared to the 27 joules estimated for a full 30-06 58.5gr load of 2209 behind a 155g pill on my vintage 1903. We will see if the recoil feeling is in line with the software estimates

I do have the Hornady 174 FMJ but I keep them for the good 303 shooters! (- not insult for the M44, mine, shown above in the thread, actually has a pretty good trigger for a Mosin and shot better than my beautiful M91-30!).

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[in2anity]

Nice rifle. I ran an FN Spanish 1895 Carbine for a while in Service Rifle. The design is more reliable and positive that your knock-about SMLE, which is an advantage. But I could never score well with it beyond 100m standing. Even the standing scores weren't optimal. Sight radius is very important for smallest groups, the area where these carbines lack.

[SHV]

Hey SHV

So do you shoot this beautiful beast?

For mine I was thinking of using the Speer 150gn projectiles with 2206H, to minimise recoil. In a PPU case. It's in the list for next year.
Has anybody here handloaded for his M44?

not yet, I got too many other rifles, mine and my friends, no time to shoot this one yet, also want to try factory ammo first but waiting the ammo to come