No1Mk3 wrote:The Swedish bolt will handle 308, a number of Swedish CG63's were chambered in 7.62x51 NATO for the UK, as well as the Swedish Army fm/64 Trials. Also look at the 6.5-284 Norma, Hornady make cases for this.
bigrich wrote:hey guys , i've got another caliber discussion for ya's . i've been loading for 6.5x55 for years and am looking into other 6.5 options . the swede is a great old school caliber , but the unique brass which i don't want to lose in the bush , and the moderate loads i'm getting before case pressure signs set in have got me looking at other options . i'm only looking at using 120-130gn projectiles mainly . the 6.5 man bun with 129sst's and 2209 seems like a good thing . anyone getting good velocity with this loading ?
ultimately i'd like to go 260rem , using sized up 243 brass as it's cheap and commonly available , and the 260 seems to have a edge with FPS on the swede and man bun especially if you can seat out over standard COL . i'd rebarrel my tikka swede to 260 but the .480 bolt face of the swede veto's that idea .
any experiences or opinions fellas ? cheers
bladeracer wrote:bigrich wrote:hey guys , i've got another caliber discussion for ya's . i've been loading for 6.5x55 for years and am looking into other 6.5 options . the swede is a great old school caliber , but the unique brass which i don't want to lose in the bush , and the moderate loads i'm getting before case pressure signs set in have got me looking at other options . i'm only looking at using 120-130gn projectiles mainly . the 6.5 man bun with 129sst's and 2209 seems like a good thing . anyone getting good velocity with this loading ?
ultimately i'd like to go 260rem , using sized up 243 brass as it's cheap and commonly available , and the 260 seems to have a edge with FPS on the swede and man bun especially if you can seat out over standard COL . i'd rebarrel my tikka swede to 260 but the .480 bolt face of the swede veto's that idea .
any experiences or opinions fellas ? cheers
If I were looking for a 6.5mm cartridge that I was happy to litter the bush with it would be the Creedmoor. I would think by now there should be plenty of once-fired brass available, and if not you can make it from cheap .308 or .243.
But you can also make cheap 6.5x55mm brass from cheap once-fired .30-06, .270, .25-06 if you are losing a lot of it. You could even go AI, though I think that generally requires pulling the barrel which can get expensive.
Why does the Swede bolt matter? The 6.5x55mm rim diameter is larger than the rim diameter of the .260 so I see no issue with rebarrelling to .260Rem or any other .308 case-head cartridge. If it were smaller (like rechambering a .308 to 6.5x55mm) you'd have to either make your brass from the smaller-diameter parent case or mill out the bolt face very slightly.
northdude wrote:What distances are you shooting at I have 3x different 6.5s, grendel, 6.5x55 and 6.5 06
SCJ429 wrote:As above, Deye said to use 308 or 7mm08 brass for a 260, this is what I do. I also rebarrelled a Tikka T3 from the Swede to Creedmoor and didn’t open up the bolt face.
I find 308 brass is the most available, I can even find once fired Lapua brass relatively cheaply.
Billo wrote:Hey bigrich no harm in playing with the 6.5 Manbun, esp if accuracy is what you crave....
Actually I was going to building a 264 WM but its been bumped down the project list and I've just committed to a 6.5 CM, Ive bought it as a project rifle to rebarrel to a mid bore unless I like it it. Ive got a stash of 130gr OTM's and 100gr Maker CNC'd projectiles to burn thru first
JimTom wrote:I run 143 ELD X out of my Creedmoor. Flattens pigs and Chital deer no problems.
bigrich wrote:northdude wrote:What distances are you shooting at I have 3x different 6.5s, grendel, 6.5x55 and 6.5 06
three 6.5's your either greedy or a 6.5 junkie
my t3 has to cover scrub to open country work . roos, goat and the various sized pigs i come across . one day i'll get lucky and get close enough to a deer to take a shot . they sit up on ridgelines 600 yards away and tease me next trip i'm trialing 129sst's .
6.5-06 is interesting , and easy to make brass from 25-06 ? that has some appeal but i doubt barrel life is long if you pump the rounds through hey ? how's it working for you ?
JimTom wrote:Mate I load 41.5 of AR2209 which is under the max load in the ADI tables. I haven’t chronographed them but extrapolating from the tables I estimate circa 2700 fps or maybe a little under. I don't get to wound up over velocity, more interested in accuracy.
I use Lapua SRP brass and load small rifle magnum primers. Shoots like a champion.
bigrich wrote:SCJ429 wrote:As above, Deye said to use 308 or 7mm08 brass for a 260, this is what I do. I also rebarrelled a Tikka T3 from the Swede to Creedmoor and didn’t open up the bolt face.
I find 308 brass is the most available, I can even find once fired Lapua brass relatively cheaply.
Thanks for the advice on resizing for the 260 scj and deye. With regards to bolt face, the Swede is .480 , 308 and most other cases are.473 . It doesn’t seem stuff all , but after having rifles that don’t feed and eject as they should due to small discrepancies, I like things to be technically correct.