3/4 oz loads in 410 guage

[mickb]

Any practilatiy to this fellas or just a novelty load. Im not much of a shotgunner but found a couple of threads on US forums of blokes playing around with shotloads this heavy.

[bigpete]

They work alright

[mickb]

You have used them Bigpete? what sort of components were you running or were they factory shells

[bigpete]

Ar2205,cardboard over powder cards, ¾oz of shot. Was a ehole back so I don't know the powder charge but I would have extrapolated it from known data

[Blr243]

Interesting. How much weight of shot is in a standard 410 shell ?

[bladeracer]

Interesting. How much weight of shot is in a standard 410 shell ?

Normally 1/2oz (219gn) or 11/16oz (301gn).

[mickb]

yes thats correct. The heaviest factory load I can find is the 5 x 000 buck load which at 70 grains a pellet means its 350 grains or 80% of an ounce, even heavier than 3/4. Hence which prompted me to see if anyone loads birdshot sizes etc that heavy as well. Id guess they would be fsirly low velocity loads.

[Blr243]

Still enough to ruin your day if you are a brown snake sunbaking Under the hills hoist

[bigpete]

410 is pretty underrated imo. Especially if you losd heavier shot. I've killed a ****** of rabbits and other pests including foxes with my old one

[mickb]

Just an update on this, I emailed ballisticproducts the shotgun superstore in the US and they said their smallbore manual has 3/4 oz loads in 3" hulls. I might download a copy and see how it looks. Components/powder availability will be the deciding factor. Not sure what is involved to import a specific wad from the US if we dont have them here. Even though they are just inert plastic I am guessing its going to be an import form?

[bigpete]

Just punch your own wads from cardboard

[bladeracer]

Just an update on this, I emailed ballisticproducts the shotgun superstore in the US and they said their smallbore manual has 3/4 oz loads in 3" hulls. I might download a copy and see how it looks. Components/powder availability will be the deciding factor. Not sure what is involved to import a specific wad from the US if we don't have them here. Even though they are just inert plastic I am guessing its going to be an import form?

I have ordered wads and stuff from Ballistic Products, but it was pre-covid so rules might've changed. Ask them if they still ship to Oz. You technically require an import permit for any cartridge components. Import permits are free in Vic. For experimenting just make your wads out of felt and the shotcup out of strips of card.

[bigpete]

Don't even need a shot cup

[mickb]

How about this evolution of the idea fellas. 4/5oz shotloads. In that a factory 3" 5x 000 buck load you can buy off the shelf is about that heavy.( triple ought buck is about 70 grains a pellet so its 350 grains load!)

I just empty the balls out and tip in shot size of my choice? Real redneck solution to a non existant problem and it also costs more so it ticks a lot of boxes

I'm not a shotgun reloader and read that smaller shot will compress and plug the bore more, may raise peak pressures somewhat, so maybe after I emtpy the buckshot out I reduce shot payload a few grains?

Apart from the cost, waste of buckshot and no real need to use loads this heavy...is the idea sound?

[Oldbloke]

Mick, why such heavy loads?

[mickb]

Just for fun

[Oldbloke]

Just for fun

fair enough

[bigpete]

Just for fun

They kill heaps better too

[mickb]

Just for fun

fair enough

yeah mate I just dont have any other reasonable explanation.

Well I guess I only own a 410, not a 12ga, no real intention to buy a 12ga again. Wondered how much I can stuff in a 410 and see how it goes. Something about those little cigarette sized shells shooting like a 20gauge gives me a kick.