Qld State Election

[Wapiti]

Well the election is on again, and a chance to try and change the things that are affecting us all.

They say, politics is a tricky subject and not one to win any friends or change anyone's minds, but it's more important now than ever before.
If anyone with any sense of what will be coming to the Eastern States if we donr turn the mix of career narcissists upside down in the two-party duoply (three with the despicable Greens), look no further than WA.

We all have no downsides to voting for a firearms friendly party that also addresses the big-picture things we all complain about, and are going to make Australia ever worse if we ignore this fact.

We have a great One Nation candidate here in the Southern Downs here, Liz Suduk, and we need to throw out the useless James Lister. However, a socialist Labor or Greens member would be an even bigger disaster. I believe in it so strongly I've been running around all week helping and will be representing them at our local school on Saturday.
If we had a KAP candidate here, it would form my no.2 on the ballot.

Be very careful to complete your ballot papers with thought please.
No, THEYRE NOT ALL THE SAME..l if you still believe that, please educate yourselves. It will be you who could benefit.
If you've voted pre-poll already, ignore this post.

[Oldbloke]

Southern Downs, great region if your a hunter.

[alexjones]

Remember QLD has no upper house. So we need a really close election with one nation and katter party holding the balance of power. We don't need to win the election we just need the balance of power with labor or liberals who cares which one.

Pistols for use on private land is a really good possibility. Suppressors and self loading rimfire for sports and rec use not very likely but not out of the realm of possibility. Self loading centrefire for sports and rec use 100% not going to happen!


I would be happy to do my mandatory pistol shoots at the range if I can use it on my farm. Needing permission to use my own property on my own farm. What a world we live in.

[Wapiti]

We are going to push for Cat C for hunters initially, and additionally H (if you are already licensed for a club) to use on private land you have permission to shoot on for feral animals. But we can't do this when we don't have any power to do it.
Now many WILL say, you have Buckleys, I remember when we started SFP in Qld for the second time I pushed this as a founding member and was told to basically go away. Where is that party now? Arguing about range templates and trying to get another state forest, being smokescreened whilst the governments in power are taking the guns and bows away.
A push is needed, not simply trying to stop further restrictions, which as anyone can see, isn't working.

But we need the support of the people, hunters and shooters are a big group and if they could just see this.
Coupled with all the conservative folk here who have had a gutful of the current three, this could change everything if people can see the forest for the trees.
If we can win a few seats to support the Coalition at worst if it's a close call, we can dictate terms.
Exactly what the evil Greens did for Labor, every time.

I personally don't have much hope but will not stop trying. We can all try something different, or just keep failing. Bashing keyboards and ticking online protest opportunities have done what?

[Wm.Traynor]

We have a one Nation candidate so that is easy. Where to put labor and Chrisafulli however, is very tricky for me at least but after forming the the opinion that the latter is an opportunist, I am putting the coalition behind labor.

[alexjones]

I would never vote liberal or labor but Chrisafulli as a person seems good to me. I hope he wins with katter and one nation holding the balance of power. This is the best and most realistic option for shooters to get some freedom.

I do like how Chrisafulli wants to ban abortion again. Murdering children never sit well to me.
Only around 1% of abortions are due to rape or medical reasons but nearly all are done because people don't take responsibility for their actions. Abortion is not a form of contraception and should only be done in extreme circumstances.

[bigrich]

i did a early vote , one nation first , labor and greens last . easy

[Bugman]

Having had a long close look at your current Premier Steven "giggles" Miles, me thinks that he comes across as being so "wooden" that another term with him at the helm could well be disastrous to QLD. Time will tell what the QLD people think.

[Billo]

I would never vote liberal or labor but Chrisafulli as a person seems good to me. I hope he wins with katter and one nation holding the balance of power. This is the best and most realistic option for shooters to get some freedom.

I do like how Chrisafulli wants to ban abortion again. Murdering children never sit well to me.
Only around 1% of abortions are due to rape or medical reasons but nearly all are done because people don't take responsibility for their actions. Abortion is not a form of contraception and should only be done in extreme circumstances.

Abortion isnt murdering children, give yourself an uppercut for your vile comments

[alexjones]

I would never vote liberal or labor but Chrisafulli as a person seems good to me. I hope he wins with katter and one nation holding the balance of power. This is the best and most realistic option for shooters to get some freedom.

I do like how Chrisafulli wants to ban abortion again. Murdering children never sit well to me.
Only around 1% of abortions are due to rape or medical reasons but nearly all are done because people don't take responsibility for their actions. Abortion is not a form of contraception and should only be done in extreme circumstances.

Abortion isnt murdering children, give yourself an uppercut for your vile comments

Use whatever dehumanising language you like to justify it to yourself. It is the intentional termination of a pregnancy IE killing of a child. And in 99% of cases is only done due to people being irresponsible for their own actions.

Not taking personal accountability for ones actions is the bedrock of being a socialist. Which is why lefties love abortion.

As a voter in QLD, guns, taxes and state sanctioned abortions are important issues to me.

[Billo]

A foetus is not a child !

Please leave the forum if you wish to carry on like this

Abortion is a fairly rare procedure in Australia, it is SAFE for women because it is LEGAL.

[alexjones]

A foetus is not a child !

Please leave the forum if you wish to carry on like this

Abortion is a fairly rare procedure in Australia, it is SAFE for women because it is LEGAL.

Ah yes. The old go away because I don't agree with you.

Abortion is not rare with around 1 in 6 women in their 30s in Australia having had one. Even the ABC says it is around 13.5 per 1000 women in Australia. That is not rare!

However in regards to abortions nearly all are not done due to rapes or medical reason but due to people being irresponsible.


https://alswh.org.au/resources/one-in-s ... -abortion/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-13/ ... nk/9250122

[Billo]

Alex you made the outrageous claim you cant support, how many CHILDREN have been killed in Australian hospitals ?

[bigrich]

people are entitled to their opinions , i can see both sides of the argument with abortion . but seeing as i'm a man and can't give birth i'll defer to women choosing their own path on this as there's probably varying circumstances . however , if a woman chooses abortion because it's a inconvenience to be pregnant , then that's very poor morality on her part . JMHO

back to the state election, KAP is gaining ground in regional north qld , lib's are going to scrape in , and the greens are down to one seat and lost their inner city power base of south brisbane . is the public finally waking up to the greens ? we can only hope ......

[Oldbloke]

people are entitled to their opinions , i can see both sides of the argument with abortion . but seeing as i'm a man and can't give birth i'll defer to women choosing their own path on this as there's probably varying circumstances . however , if a woman chooses abortion because it's a inconvenience to be pregnant , then that's very poor morality on her part . JMHO

back to the state election, KAP is gaining ground in regional north qld , lib's are going to scrape in , and the greens are down to one seat and lost their inner city power base of south brisbane . is the public finally waking up to the greens ? we can only hope ......

Agree.

Good to see KAP doing ok.
Great to see Greens doing badly. They really are tge pits.

[NTSOG]

It sounds like Queenslanders have woken up to the dangers and incompetence of the socialist Labor and Greens parties with the latter mob at risk of losing seats. Now if only Victorians can learn from this example.

Jim

[alexjones]

Alex you made the outrageous claim you cant support, how many CHILDREN have been killed in Australian hospitals ?

Well this pro women's rights origination in Victoria reckons one in three women in Australia will have an abortion in their lifetime. With around 88000 being killed ever year. You made the outrages claim that it is rare which it is not.

https://www.thewomens.org.au/news/our-p ... ion-rights

[alexjones]

people are entitled to their opinions , i can see both sides of the argument with abortion . but seeing as i'm a man and can't give birth i'll defer to women choosing their own path on this as there's probably varying circumstances . however , if a woman chooses abortion because it's a inconvenience to be pregnant , then that's very poor morality on her part . JMHO

back to the state election, KAP is gaining ground in regional north qld , lib's are going to scrape in , and the greens are down to one seat and lost their inner city power base of south brisbane . is the public finally waking up to the greens ? we can only hope ......

It is not always women. I work with a young scumbag who bangs a lot of women and 3 times already this year he has forced his girlfriends to kill the baby.
"I am not ruining my life" is his answer when I tell him not to do it and to accept the responsibility.

As a tax payer who has to fund this, why is it legal to kill children yet criminals who commit crimes cant be sentenced to death?

[alexjones]

Katter has won 3 seats. They had 4 last time but that was because one member switched from one nation to Katter mid term. So they won the same amount of seats as last election. However with LNP having majority and the Katter boys in there some small changes should come to shooters.

Pistols on private land is very in sight now and suppressors for sports or rec use is in the realm of possibility.

[MtnMan]

Public land hunting would be a better fight

[bigrich]

It is not always women. I work with a young scumbag who bangs a lot of women and 3 times already this year he has forced his girlfriends to kill the baby.
"I am not ruining my life" is his answer when I tell him not to do it and to accept the responsibility.

As a tax payer who has to fund this, why is it legal to kill children yet criminals who commit crimes cant be sentenced to death?

good point , i didn't consider that a woman could be pressured into it , that doesn't sit with me well either . maybe young said scumbag is lucky he missed out on being terminated

it's a moral and ethical minefield

[bigrich]

As a tax payer who has to fund this, why is it legal to kill children yet criminals who commit crimes cant be sentenced to death?

well i think in some cases of really heinous crimes (daniel morcombe murder for instance) that when there's 100% no doubt of guilt , capital punishment should be implicated JMHO

[alexjones]

As a tax payer who has to fund this, why is it legal to kill children yet criminals who commit crimes cant be sentenced to death?

well i think in some cases of really heinous crimes (daniel morcombe murder for instance) that when there's 100% no doubt of guilt , capital punishment should be implicated JMHO

Yes these days with modern DNA and other forensic testing people are wrongly accused at very low rates.
Arguments can be made for capital punishment for severe crimes when the guilt is proven beyond a doubt.

[alexjones]

Public land hunting would be a better fight

Yes this is a possibility too. Either way I feel with the makeup of this new parliament some positive changes could happen for gun rights in Queensland.
Be that small administrative changes or perhaps something in the act.

[Wapiti]

Well, we didn't get Liz in for Sothern Downs, Lister was the re-elected member for this great seat.
It was going to be a big ask, as James Lister was parachuted in by Lawrence Springborg (now Goondiwindi Shire Mayor), who still is very popular in Southern Qld.

But she is of now, coming 2nd in the count with around 18% votes which shows a great surge in support, however she's just edging out the Labor candidate which is quite alarming. Her backers are mostly local business owners and farming folk.
Speaking to locals coming to our booth, those I know so were not frightened of voicing their views, are very alarmed in the city folk moving out here to escape the city, but hypocritically bring the voting habits that turned their previous electorates into woke sh**holes. I concur.

Considering Labor had nobody to run in this large electorate and only two weeks ago convinced a local, Greg Johnson, to run for them. How about that, a bloke who previously was never interested in running for the seat and was pushed to run. That's politics.

Anyway, at least it looks like the sickening Greens, second in evil only to Labor, look to be only polling a few decimal points over 5% out here.
Congrats to Katter by the way.
However, there still hasn't been enough seats won by both to influence the slide into woke madness in Qld. But at least Labor and that Miles union panlicker are history.
And great, I've caught Covid from someone yesterday. Bugger.

[bigrich]

just checked abc website , labor 30 seats , libs 48, KAP 3 . 47 seats is the magic number , so YAY !

[Billo]

I guess its good to give the LNP some toys to play with every so often, thou Crusafilli should be a 1 term Premier, no different than Newman.

Cant wait to see him get the total number of Victims of crime down, his core promise to the State.

One thing I've learnt about the LNP is they tend to be good at spending other peoples money, look out QLDrs your just about to have a bunch of debt.

Hospitals will need to be shut and waiting list will blow out, this is what you voted. Good riddance to One Nation.

[alexjones]

Support for the greens appears to be dipping country wide and I think it is to do with their approach. A lot of their voters are ill informed apathetic people who want change and want good but are put off by the greens methods of protesting and annoyance.

People like Lidia Thorpe do a great disservice to their cause by their childish stupid behaviour. Remember the old saying about catching more flies with honey. I don't approve of the monarchy, I don't like the king but I am not a spoilt child who behaves like she does.

[alexjones]

I guess its good to give the LNP some toys to play with every so often, thou Crusafilli should be a 1 term Premier, no different than Newman.

Cant wait to see him get the total number of Victims of crime down, his core promise to the State.

One thing I've learnt about the LNP is they tend to be good at spending other peoples money, look out QLDrs your just about to have a bunch of debt.

Hospitals will need to be shut and waiting list will blow out, this is what you voted. Good riddance to One Nation.

Come on mate labor and liberals are just as bad as each other at wasting other peoples money.

[MtnMan]

People like Lidia Thorpe do a great disservice to their cause by their childish stupid behaviour. .

Let's keep her there then.