Sicktoria actually bans machetes now!

[Wapiti]

Just saw this morning, this ridiculous government in the Communist State of Victoria has banned machetes!

Rather than drop the imported cretins on the spot that carry these bush tools around on the streets deliberately to undertake their despicable, disgusting criminal behaviour, people with these tools will need to dispose of them in "designated disposal points".

Can you believe the pathetic desperation these narcissists have to try and show that they are doing ANYTHING to curb crime and hide the source of the crimes itself? These scum put injecting rooms near schools.
Why not just severely punish any grubs that physically assault, kill or main anyone, or are carrying the tools on the streets that show the "intent" to do so?

[bigpete]

bulls**t isn't it

[mchughcb]

The simple fact is that it's mainly immigrants or children of immigrants from Africa. No amount of banning anything is going to stop violent crime with them because it's a culture.

Simple deportation like Trump with gang members and if my Maltese and polish mates are right whole family.

[on_one_wheel]

So has that made all machete owners instant criminals or can they keep one in the garden shed ?

[alexjones]

I think the law comes in around September and they are talking about allowing some exemptions. I am not sure how that would work. Whether they need to be registered and engraved with serial numbers etc. I guess all these details are being worked out.


Classic Australian mentality of just ban it. Instead of punishing the criminal, all must be punished. This is the Australian way. Which is why I say Australia is a hell hole. Not in the psychical sense but in the sense of the mentality of the people. Majority of people are pussies who love the government to control every aspect of their life..

[Die Judicii]

It's gonna be bloody cold winters in the future,,,,, cos they'll ban axes and block splitters next.

[Wapiti]

Hey let's ban something, then work out the details later...
How very political of them. The afterbirth of human life.

When are Australians going to realise that this duopoly (actually it's a tripopoly, or maybe a quadopoly with the teals and green queens) need to be relinquished into the annals of history?

Hey, here's a thing, how about forcing the judicial system to utilise the existing laws? What an idiotic idea.

[Bugman]

Hey, here's a thing, how about forcing the judicial system to utilise the existing laws? What an idiotic idea

Spot on.

[mchughcb]

Hey, here's a thing, how about forcing the judicial system to utilise the existing laws? What an idiotic idea

Spot on.

Actually there is some truth to this. The reason Patton got the boot was he said they should have been keeping the offenders locked up rather than let them out on bail. A few recent bail then violent crimes later Allan starts to panic and throws Patten under the bus. And comes in with a machete ban, rather than worry about losing votes with the minorities but she's going down with the majorities.

[rossfrb]

This guy gives a good summary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPIsAQerEDY

[bigrich]

The simple fact is that it's mainly immigrants or children of immigrants from Africa. No amount of banning anything is going to stop violent crime with them because it's a culture.

you can't say that , that's racist . doesn't matter that it's true, in this modern woke world ......

what happens when they move onto carving knives , guvment going to ban those too .

the ball pein hammer was the calling card of the hell's angels for a lot of years , maybe the hammer should be banned also

just too damn hard to lock up or deport serious crims

[wanneroo]

If you keep electing these crazies this is what happens.

They import trouble from overseas and then make the locals lives miserable by banning commonly used tools and blame regular people for the problems the politicians imported.

[bigrich]

If you keep electing these crazies this is what happens.

They import trouble from overseas and then make the locals lives miserable by banning commonly used tools and blame regular people for the problems the politicians imported.

dunno bout your country mate , but in the cities common sense is lacking and suburban potato heads addicted to social media are going along with the woke/lefty thinking. some are waking up however as votes for the greens have declined . ironic that the voter base of the greens is based in inner city areas when their ideology is based around the environment and natural world

victoria is a nice place to visit , but the thinking of some of my relatives down there leaves me dumbfounded

[Harrisor44]

Apparently they are yet to define what a machete actually is however the starting point seems to be any blade that exceeds 20cm and is not a cooking knife. Will be virtually impossible to come up with a definition without picking up a vast range of knives used for hunting and fishing. Even if they do get the definition right, the gangs will just make their own or move on to other knives or even pruning saws. Again the majority will be penalised for the few who flout the law and should be locked up for a long time instead of being bailed time and time again.

[wanneroo]

Apparently they are yet to define what a machete actually is however the starting point seems to be any blade that exceeds 20cm and is not a cooking knife. Will be virtually impossible to come up with a definition without picking up a vast range of knives used for hunting and fishing. Even if they do get the definition right, the gangs will just make their own or move on to other knives or even pruning saws. Again the majority will be penalised for the few who flout the law and should be locked up for a long time instead of being bailed time and time again.

Harsh jail time and penalties are the way to go. All this does is create another income source for criminals as it raises the street price of sharp edged implements. It will now make them worthy to steal or seek out to steal or baring that, making their own.

[on_one_wheel]

And just like that, all the machines were gone... just like making recreational drugs illegal fixed that problem, high tobacco taxes stopped people smoking, speeding cameras stopped speeding.
The only people they can control are the ones who wouldn't break any laws in the first place, criminals will be criminals regardless of how many laws they need to break to get the job done.

I definitely agree that harsh punishment is the only answer, they need to make jails somewhere that people don't want to be rather than a homeless shelter for bad people to network, play on the playstation, watch TV, go to the gym and enjoy free meals, dental and medical, it's a joke.

[Oldbloke]

And just like that, all the machines were gone... just like making recreational drugs illegal fixed that problem, high tobacco taxes stopped people smoking, speeding cameras stopped speeding.
The only people they can control are the ones who wouldn't break any laws in the first place, criminals will be criminals regardless of how many laws they need to break to get the job done.

I definitely agree that harsh punishment is the only answer, they need to make jails somewhere that people don't want to be rather than a homeless shelter for bad people to network, play on the playstation, watch TV, go to the gym and enjoy free meals, dental and medical, it's a joke.

[on_one_wheel]

The place should be a boot camp from hell, daily beatings, waterboarding sessions, a bucket to do your business in, a festering hell hole with no heating or cooling, a strobe light for lighting, wooden planks for a bed and a blanket so f***ing small it doubles as a flannel
Vote for me and I'll show em how to build a prison so vile the only right inmates would have is the right to whale in pain and displeasure

[bigrich]

The place should be a boot camp from hell, daily beatings, waterboarding sessions, a bucket to do your business in, a festering hell hole with no heating or cooling, a strobe light for lighting, wooden planks for a bed and a blanket so f***ing small it doubles as a flannel
Vote for me and I'll show em how to build a prison so vile the only right inmates would have is the right to whale in pain and displeasure

not a bad idea, but a prison like the one you describe would train/breed the most sadistic hardened criminals you could imagine . and once they served their time , would be released into society worse than when they went in . discipline yes, and hard labour . a lot of US prisons used to self fund their budgets by hiring out the prisoners chain gang style for road crew work and land clearing . dunno if they still do , but it sounds like a better idea than the taxpayer funding the current rehabilitation holiday camps we have . when i was a young fella boggo road jail in brisbane was a place you did not want to end up in

[noneyabussiness]

lol... Jail's now days... look into the youth prison up in Townsville, they rioted a few years back because the air con went out for a few hours in the main buildings.. another time they wanted pizza and the guards said no...

Had a close friend that worked there...the stories she would tell us, the grubberment has no control over em at all..

[bigrich]

lol... Jail's now days... look into the youth prison up in Townsville, they rioted a few years back because the air con went out for a few hours in the main buildings.. another time they wanted pizza and the guards said no...

Had a close friend that worked there...the stories she would tell us, the grubberment has no control over em at all..

people wonder why there's a youth crime problem , do a crime , no serious consequences

[alexjones]

Yeah my mate was in jail maybe 10 years ago and he had an xbox, tv. He said it was not that bad.

If I was the premier of QLD with majority rule it would be 10 years minimum sentence for all crimes up to life or the hangman for extreme crimes such as pedophiles, terrorism etc.

[bigrich]

they're a japanese hedge trimming tool and a "texas toothpick" is what i think they used to call the bowie knife . or was that "Tennessee toothpick" ?

[Stoney]

The Mud Hut builders were imported for that very reason. Check the UK, check NZ, check Canada, check Ireland, the list goes on. If you, " ALL " , can't behave well then more extreme crackdowns. ORCHESTRATED.

[Bugman]

My memory reminds of Mt Penang correctional facility. The powers that be tried everything from "touchy feely" to harder conditions for the so called "troubled youth" of the day. Even had a pool installed. Didn't work. Riots, violent misbehaviour, staff and inmates assaulted.
Corrective services apparently took over, the pool was filled in, strict discipline was installed. In the end, though, the place was closed down. And our "trouble youth" either homegrown or imported have continued on.

[bigrich]

Hey, here's a thing, how about forcing the judicial system to utilise the existing laws? What an idiotic idea

Spot on.

Actually there is some truth to this. The reason Patton got the boot was he said they should have been keeping the offenders locked up rather than let them out on bail. A few recent bail then violent crimes later Allan starts to panic and throws Patten under the bus. And comes in with a machete ban, rather than worry about losing votes with the minorities but she's going down with the majorities.

I reckon you had the spelling right the first time. We need general Patton running the show. lol

[bigrich]

What happened to old mates post of the jap sword and the bowie knife ? Did he delete it or did the mods step in ?

[Blr243]

Sometimes , actually often police know who the grubs are and where they live but they can’t necessarily charge them a lot of the time If during a raid a cop finds a machete under the bed he can be charged. Your grandmother who has one in her garden shed is not going to be hunted down and prosecuted.. I tend to think of it as a law they need and they can enforce it when applicable. I’m ok with the law.

[noneyabussiness]

problem is... They CAN charge old granny... and do... and at what point does the line blur between granny and criminal?? So be VERY careful about agreeing to a very unjust/unnecessary law because of one demographic they chasing.. cause we ALL come under the same laws..

[bigrich]

Sometimes , actually often police know who the grubs are and where they live but they can’t necessarily charge them a lot of the time If during a raid a cop finds a machete under the bed he can be charged. Your grandmother who has one in her garden shed is not going to be hunted down and prosecuted.. I tend to think of it as a law they need and they can enforce it when applicable. I’m ok with the law.

what worries me is it comes down to the interpretation and application of the law by a individual police officer. a lot depends on that officers demeanour. lots of laws are created with good intentions , but all too often they get misused