QLD police block Anzac Day historical guns

[Oldbloke]

A “soulless, tone-deaf [police] bureaucracy” has apparently stopped the Queensland Living History Federation from participating in Anzac Day marches, after unilaterally changed its interpretation of rules pertaining to replica and blank-firing firearms.

WTF



https://sportingshooter.com.au/news/fur ... ead%20More

[Oldbloke]

It's starting to look like QLD will be the next WA.

Fuk I hope I'm wrong.but seems the writing is on the wall.

[alexjones]

I think the matter has been resolved?

It is legal to carry a gun in public if you have “a lawful excuse”.

Participating in an ANZAC parade as part of a historical club would be a lawful excuse.

[Oldbloke]

I hope you are correct AJ

[alexjones]

I hope you are correct AJ

Well the law does not state what a lawful excuse is. But historical precedence would set the common law that it would have to be lawful. Seeing as it has been done for like 100 years. The outrage of the community would be huge if people were charged for participating in the parade.

This is not you and me rocking up with our 303s. It is an organised historical club.

[Wapiti]

Last year at the Stanthorpe Dawn Service, I had the huge pleasure of being right next to a mounted horse re-enactment, with all the Light Horse uniforms, complete with Lee Enfield 303's in the scabbards. They came out of the dark and it was a spine chilling sight.
If the Police stop this tomorrow, they have lost all respect from us, forever.
As it is, the way they disrespect us outside of town, ignore the crime we face all the time and yet STILL expect to be able to roam around on weekends using their (Edit to keep me out of trouble) firearms in the bush shooting pigs whilst hammering the rest of us, means respect is only just hanging by a thread.

[bigrich]

Last year at the Stanthorpe Dawn Service, I had the huge pleasure of being right next to a mounted horse re-enactment, with all the Light Horse uniforms, complete with Lee Enfield 303's in the scabbards. They came out of the dark and it was a spine chilling sight.
If the Police stop this tomorrow, they have lost all respect from us, forever.
As it is, the way they disrespect us outside of town, ignore the crime we face all the time and yet STILL expect to be able to roam around on weekends using their (Edit to keep me out of trouble) firearms in the bush shooting pigs whilst hammering the rest of us, means respect is only just hanging by a thread.

that sounds awsome . my great uncle was in qld lighthorse, didn't see any action as he got tuberculosis in Egypt and was shipped home to die from it keep us updated mate . i saw the anzac day march in tenterfeild years ago , and it's quite a different experience to brisbane . lest we forget

[bigrich]

It's starting to look like QLD will be the next WA.

Fuk I hope I'm wrong.but seems the writing is on the wall.

there's a lot more kick back in qld than what happened in WA , even with the behaviour on WLB over pta queries. ANY proposed change to licensing in QLD would result a lot more action by shooters here i reckon . i see ssaa QLD has a new political/public relations organisation , australian shooters alliance . article in
"the report" . finally , some action from ssaa . going by the article it all sounds good, as they've been accepted as a stake holder by the attorney general and apparently are reaching out to shooting organisations in the USA and new zealand for support. whether or not they build into a major influence with teeth remains to be seen . i'm hopeful.... . i was surprised to see credit given to shooters union in the ssaa article regarding the ANZAC day march OB posted a link to . could this be the start of something great , shooting organisations coming together for the greater good ? putting aside petty differences ? again, i'm hopeful

please put up a link OB , you know i'm computer illiterate

[bigrich]

Last year at the Stanthorpe Dawn Service, I had the huge pleasure of being right next to a mounted horse re-enactment, with all the Light Horse uniforms, complete with Lee Enfield 303's in the scabbards. They came out of the dark and it was a spine chilling sight.
If the Police stop this tomorrow, they have lost all respect from us, forever.
As it is, the way they disrespect us outside of town, ignore the crime we face all the time and yet STILL expect to be able to roam around on weekends using their (Edit to keep me out of trouble) firearms in the bush shooting pigs whilst hammering the rest of us, means respect is only just hanging by a thread.

that dawn service sounds awesome mate. my great uncle was in qld lighthorse, didn't see any action as he got tuberculosis in Egypt and was shipped home to die from it keep us updated mate . i saw the anzac day march in tenterfeild years ago , and it's quite a different experience to brisbane . i also found the tenterfeild cops very reasonable fellas . the couple i encountered seemed to grasp the concept of "community policing" rather than by the book type of mentality .

lest we forget

screwed up this post , clicked on quote instead of edit

[alexjones]

The current president of the USA refers to these scumbags as the “deep state”.

Unelected bureaucrats who control everything. Public servants who do what they like. No matter what party is in control and what policy they implement its the deep state that do the actual day to day of policy implementation. The public servants do what they like.

The most powerful person in QLD is not the elected premier but the police commissioner. An unelected scumbag.

[alexjones]

I like the American system where people vote for sheriffs. The head lawman in the area is the sheriff and he is voted in by the people!

[Wapiti]

I like the American system where people vote for sheriffs. The head lawman in the area is the sheriff and he is voted in by the people!

If/when I'm El Presidente this is exactly what will be enacted.
ALL the current law enforcement will be sacked and offered, along with any other community members, the chance to be elected on their efforts towards community good, rather than the service of their political puppet masters.

[alexjones]

I like the American system where people vote for sheriffs. The head lawman in the area is the sheriff and he is voted in by the people!

If/when I'm El Presidente this is exactly what will be enacted.
ALL the current law enforcement will be sacked and offered, along with any other community members, the chance to be elected on their efforts towards community good, rather than the service of their political puppet masters.

Yup.

Something like 70% of judges in America are elected too. You give bad justice? You lose the peoples vote.

Perfect idea.

[fussy]

I hope you are correct AJ

Well the law does not state what a lawful excuse is. But historical precedence would set the common law that it would have to be lawful. Seeing as it has been done for like 100 years. The outrage of the community would be huge if people were charged for participating in the parade.

This is not you and me rocking up with our 303s. It is an organised historical club.

I know I'm late to the party but:
So turn up, in uniform, with the 303s.
If they charge, stick together, witnesses, phone footage, "Your name and station, please officer".
Then go public. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. The public outrage that the cops would dare stop this ON THE DAY, instead of hoping for meek obedience prior, is what will save the day.

[Die Judicii]

I like the American system where people vote for sheriffs. The head lawman in the area is the sheriff and he is voted in by the people!

If/when I'm El Presidente this is exactly what will be enacted.
ALL the current law enforcement will be sacked and offered, along with any other community members, the chance to be elected on their efforts towards community good, rather than the service of their political puppet masters.

Yep,, and sitting government parties should NEVER BE ALLOWED TO MAKE ANY ELECTIONEERING PROMISES.

Instead,,,,, they should go to the polls based on what they've actually achieved during their term in office only.

[fussy]

Exactly. It's why they hate pre-poll voting: They want to be judged on weeks of glitzy advertising, not years of actual performance.

Incumbents: this is your performance review.
New candidates: this is your job interview.

[wanneroo]

One of the big problems with Australia and has been for decades is the police are involved in politics, heavily and have no accountability to the public.

The police should have checks and balances and the police needs to be broken up from the state level and power put back in local hands.

[Bugman]

One of the big problems with Australia and has been for decades is the police are involved in politics, heavily and have no accountability to the public.

The police should have checks and balances and the police needs to be broken up from the state level and power put back in local hands.

Not a bad idea, but a bit too simple for our local pollies and plods, I'm afraid.

[alexjones]

^ America has it better in regards to their police. They have state police, city police and sheriff departments. Not to mention all types of federal police.

Australia just has state(or territory police) and federal.

Each council area should have a sheriffs department that is voted in by the people that enforces the law in that area. Then state police to patrol highways and provide specialist departments to the sheriff departments.

That is the best way to avoid centralised overreach.

[bigrich]

^ America has it better in regards to their police. They have state police, city police and sheriff departments. Not to mention all types of federal police.

Australia just has state(or territory police) and federal.

Each council area should have a sheriffs department that is voted in by the people that enforces the law in that area. Then state police to patrol highways and provide specialist departments to the sheriff departments.

That is the best way to avoid centralised overreach.

sounds like more government departments and bureaucracy to me . yank law enforcement seems to fight agaist themselves over jurisdiction and doesn't co operate well at times.

if i gotta vote for a sheriff , let it be "Sheriff Roscoe P Coltrane "

[wanneroo]

^ America has it better in regards to their police. They have state police, city police and sheriff departments. Not to mention all types of federal police.

Australia just has state(or territory police) and federal.

Each council area should have a sheriffs department that is voted in by the people that enforces the law in that area. Then state police to patrol highways and provide specialist departments to the sheriff departments.

That is the best way to avoid centralised overreach.

Yes, that is pretty much the way it works here.

If we don't like the sheriff, we vote him out.

If we don't like the local chief of police, you can go to the city council and put pressure on them to fire him.

The State Police deal with major crimes and state and federal highways.

In Australia there is no local accountability at all, just big state level bureaucracies.

[noneyabussiness]

^ America has it better in regards to their police. They have state police, city police and sheriff departments. Not to mention all types of federal police.

Australia just has state(or territory police) and federal.

Each council area should have a sheriffs department that is voted in by the people that enforces the law in that area. Then state police to patrol highways and provide specialist departments to the sheriff departments.

That is the best way to avoid centralised overreach.

Yes, that is pretty much the way it works here.

If we don't like the sheriff, we vote him out.

If we don't like the local chief of police, you can go to the city council and put pressure on them to fire him.

The State Police deal with major crimes and state and federal highways.

In Australia there is no accountability at all, just big level bureaucracies.

Just corrected it for you..

[Wapiti]

I went to the local Stanthorpe RSL yesterday afternoon to attend an open day put on by the human scum that have approval to build a 200-turbine wind farm at Pikedale. But that's another story.
Whilst there, I looked over the displays in the foyer behind glass, as I always stop to do, that had all manner or memorabilia from WW1/WW2. Stanthorpe as many know was one of the gathering points for the brave men who came off farms to fight for the call-up. The community is full of the families of returned servicemen and many would know the many small communities here named after terrible WW1 French battlefields.
Anyway, the Lee Enfield and German Mauser that used to take pride of place over that war's other artifacts is now no more. Gone, and replaced with god knows what.
Pathetic. This country is saturated with woke trash now, who are followed by cowards.

[Billo]

The current president of the USA refers to these scumbags as the “deep state”.

Unelected bureaucrats who control everything. Public servants who do what they like. No matter what party is in control and what policy they implement its the deep state that do the actual day to day of policy implementation. The public servants do what they like.

The most powerful person in QLD is not the elected premier but the police commissioner. An unelected scumbag.

And the current President of the USA is crashing and burning faster than tiger moth with no wings

[Oldbloke]

The current president of the USA refers to these scumbags as the “deep state”.

Unelected bureaucrats who control everything. Public servants who do what they like. No matter what party is in control and what policy they implement its the deep state that do the actual day to day of policy implementation. The public servants do what they like.

The most powerful person in QLD is not the elected premier but the police commissioner. An unelected scumbag.

And the current President of the USA is crashing and burning faster than tiger moth with no wings

Don't get me started.

BIL was OS. Bumped into 6-8 Canadians. After chatting a while they admitted they were yanks!. They are sooo embarrassed that Trump got elected and his crap performance they don't like to advertise they are yanks.


They apparently explained Trump got elected because:
All the smart republicans wouldn't vote for him,, so they simply didn't vote, rather than vote for Harris.
And all the gorillas voted for him, including a lot of democrats, probably because they are gullible.

I feel sorry for them. They are headed for very hard times.

Got a feeling Trump won't live to try to run again.

[Wapiti]

How hilarious. Trump is living rent-free in your bored minds.
Anzac Day - Historical firearms hidden away so as not to promote guns = Trump. Get a life.

[Oldbloke]

How hilarious. Trump is living rent-free in your bored minds.
Anzac Day - Historical firearms hidden away so as not to promote guns = Trump. Get a life.

You're being silly.
Trump is simply a current affairs topic.

BTW, the stupid s**t he does often effects AU .

[No1_49er]

Seems that Trump might be living rent-free in your head too, OB.
He is the President of the USA and it is not his duty to care one iota about how his policies might affect Australia.
His number one duty is to improve the well-being of his united states and in the mean-time, stick one up the CCP whose intent seems to be to gain a world-wide market for their products, the designs of which are often "stolen" from "the west", or marketed at manifestly unrealistic prices.
A simple example - Brno/Norinco: there are many more.
And now, from another thread, Meopta are (apparently) going to move their production to China. Oh, joy - now the prices will come down. Yeh, right; good luck with that.

[Oldbloke]

Seems that Trump might be living rent-free in your head too, OB.
He is the President of the USA and it is not his duty to care one iota about how his policies might affect Australia.
His number one duty is to improve the well-being of his united states and in the mean-time, stick one up the CCP whose intent seems to be to gain a world-wide market for their products, the designs of which are often "stolen" from "the west", or marketed at manifestly unrealistic prices.
A simple example - Brno/Norinco: there are many more.
And now, from another thread, Meopta are (apparently) going to move their production to China. Oh, joy - now the prices will come down. Yeh, right; good luck with that.

The latest catchcry. Meaningless, thing to say. Ridiculous. Like many I watch/read the news.

Never said it was his "duty" to care about AU..
But we did have a free trade agreement. That's in the shredder now. Will he abide by other agreements?

"the mean-time, stick one up the CCP ". Well they used tariffs on us because we wanted to investigate COVID. So, in that sense it's good.
But a 145% tariff on goods is a 145% tax on US citizens too. Imports have already dropped by at least 25%. The locals are going to love that. And manufacturers don't set up in a few months it often takes years.

"Meopta are (apparently) going to move their production to China. Oh, joy - now the prices will come down. Yeh, right; good luck with that"
Sounds like capitalism/more profits to me.


Seems like Trumps "marketing" has worked on you.

[Billo]

How hilarious. Trump is living rent-free in your bored minds.
Anzac Day - Historical firearms hidden away so as not to promote guns = Trump. Get a life.

Another day of Old man rants, I'm starting to think you spend too much time on the internet, maybe go outside and shout at the clouds for a bit