AR2205 back on the market

[JimTom]

Yep none up this end of the state. No ETA either.

Where abouts are you?

In Townsville mate.

[Wapiti]

I've been trying to get to The Barn on Oakey for ages now, still haven't been able to get away.
I bet that when I do, the 2205 and Trailboss will be all gone.

3 hours one way, not such a big deal, but adds another level of cost and another day lost from an ever growing priorities list.

Shocked at the price rises though.

[No1_49er]

Surely there's an easy fix, Wapiti?
Phone them and ask if they have any.
If they have, get them to send you a Sales Invoice, pay for it by direct bank transfer (or whatever other means they permit) and have them set it aside until you can collect.
Or am I missing something?

[Wapiti]

I did inquire once but had to pick up within 7 days. If I didn't, they'd put it back into stock and give credit on something else.

No, you're not missing something, I'm just a slack bastard making up excuses. I should be able to just drop everything and have a day off.
If it was that important, I'd have ordered online and been there by now.

[Oldbloke]

6 hr drive makes for expensive powder.

[bladeracer]

I did inquire once but had to pick up within 7 days. If I didn't, they'd put it back into stock and give credit on something else.

No, you're not missing something, I'm just a slack bastard making up excuses. I should be able to just drop everything and have a day off.
If it was that important, I'd have ordered online and been there by now.

Jump on FB and find somebody that lives in the area that can collect it and hold it for you. I've picked up powder and ammo for people so they can make the trip when it's most convenient for them.

[Billo]

Bought 1kg of AR2205 last week, still some available in Sydney

[OyKurwa]

It appears to be widely available in Vic. I picked up 1kg at the gun shop in Warragul last week.

I was also at Eagle Park Range in Little River yesterday and they had it on hand too.

I'm very happy with this. I did a straight substitution into my 300BLK loads with data from the ADI manual. My 130gr loading went from 21gr of 2207 delivering 2020fps, to 19.4gr of 2205 delivering 2140fps. It also shrank the group size to sub-MOA, which is probably a factor of the load no longer being compressed.

[Billo]

It appears to be widely available in Vic. I picked up 1kg at the gun shop in Warragul last week.

I was also at Eagle Park Range in Little River yesterday and they had it on hand too.

I'm very happy with this. I did a straight substitution into my 300BLK loads with data from the ADI manual. My 130gr loading went from 21gr of 2207 delivering 2020fps, to 19.4gr of 2205 delivering 2140fps. It also shrank the group size to sub-MOA, which is probably a factor of the load no longer being compressed.

Glad ur happy because I'm not, did some loads for my 22 hornet and 2205 is 300fps slower than other magnum pistol powders WTF, starting to think this is more a fast rifle powder and I need to get rid of this crap

[Wapiti]

Still cannot get any in south central Qld. No country shops have been allocated any, and what did come in to the big country suppliers like The Barn flew out the door.

From actually chronying the results from 2205 way back in lever guns and revolvers for what I call "full power loads", 2205 shot as quick as any commercial factory ammo and the results on ferals was due solely to projectile choices. Can't talk about target shooting, but I imagine you would want full power stuff for steel target shoots.

I was in a shop recently asking for some, and one of the rotund counter leaners that have nothing better to do than come into town and p*ss off the shop staff and customers and boast about their latest wet dreams replied when I asked, "what do you want that sh*t for, it only half burns and made a real mess". The only answer worth giving was, "who gives a toss what you think mate".
Anyway, in the absence of anything better, I'll keep asking.

[Wapiti]

Yeeha. Hit town to do some bloke stuff on the Mrs. business and the boys in the local gunshop have been allocated 7 x 1kg bottles of 2205, so I grabbed two. And some rubber 9-pellet buckshot, which I've been needing for ages.
Bloody powders gone up though, $165 a kg. Shooting is fast becoming a rich man's sport. But 2kg will keep me going forever with the pistols for field loads.
So for once I jagged a town visit at the right time.

[OyKurwa]

Still cannot get any in south central Qld. No country shops have been allocated any, and what did come in to the big country suppliers like The Barn flew out the door.

From actually chronying the results from 2205 way back in lever guns and revolvers for what I call "full power loads", 2205 shot as quick as any commercial factory ammo and the results on ferals was due solely to projectile choices. Can't talk about target shooting, but I imagine you would want full power stuff for steel target shoots.

I was in a shop recently asking for some, and one of the rotund counter leaners that have nothing better to do than come into town and p*ss off the shop staff and customers and boast about their latest wet dreams replied when I asked, "what do you want that sh*t for, it only half burns and made a real mess". The only answer worth giving was, "who gives a toss what you think mate".
Anyway, in the absence of anything better, I'll keep asking.

That's such a random thing for the bloke to say about 2205. It's a fast burning powder, I am struggling to think of a scenario where that would happen. Maybe he went from the wet tumbler straight to loading without any drying process

My favourite counter leaner logic is, "You need a 300 win mag to hunt Sambar, or else they just run off". I've heard it or some variation multiple times over the years. I always love to deadpan counter it by telling them how many I've taken with a 308, even out as far as 250m.

[Wapiti]

That's such a random thing for the bloke to say about 2205. It's a fast burning powder, I am struggling to think of a scenario where that would happen. Maybe he went from the wet tumbler straight to loading without any drying process

Dunno mate, I've read it before online plenty too. People say lots of weird stuff, mostly I think it must be just because some people love to hear made-up innuendo and spread it. The main source as another Australian forum, not worth even wasting time being a part of.

I used to use Win 296 in top speed loads in both 357 and 44, and in it's absence here for too long now, 2205 proved to be a completely satisfying replacement.
If you believe all the comments online, you'd never step outside.

[Sarco]

I wouldn't call 2205 a "fast burning powder", but I would call it as the fastest burning of the rifle powders and as such may have a crossover application in to pistol usage.
Indeed I use it in 22Hornet, metallic silhouette loads (also W296). It is also a good load for full steam 300BO loads for silhouette from the various contender barrels.

Fast powders are the pistol ones eg. AP30, AP50, AP70 and AP100 (or in the newer powders the APS equivalents 350, 450, 650 and 950). Again 30 fastest, 100 slowest of the pistol powders. Not sure about the APS powders as I haven't needed to start loading with them yet.

I noted last weekend that SSAA Vic Eagle Park range (Little River), on their powders board had AR2205 at $185/Kg.

[Wapiti]

I have taken what OyKurwa said about 2205 being a fast burner for what it is, on the fast scale as a rifle powder.
We as consumers, have limited and sporadic supply of this kind of powder spec, including stuff on the faster scale like AP30 to AP100, and have had to suck it up and use what we find best for our applications.