BREAKING NEWS: WA Firearms Review Motion Passed!

[1886]

STOP PRESS

The Hon Nick Goiran
Leader of the Opposition in the Legislative Council
Shadow Attorney General | Shadow Minister for Child Protection

has come through. His motion in the upper house for the WA Firearms Act to be referred to a Standing Committee on Legislation for a full public enquiry HAS BEEN PASSED.

But also check out who supported it.

Dear xxx
I wrote to you at the beginning of May to let you know that I gave official notice to the Legislative Council of a motion to have the Firearms Act 2024 referred to the Standing Committee on Legislation for a full public inquiry.

As you know, last year the Cook Labor Government lied.

They said their new law “will be subject to the full scrutiny of Upper House debate, as is normal practice”.

History now records that instead they guillotined debate after only 11 clauses had been reviewed and arrogantly rammed through more than 480 clauses without allowing a word of debate or even a question to be asked.

At that time, I was on the record saying that “there is no doubt that the passage of the Firearms Bill 2024 by the Cook Labor Government was one of the worst episodes of legislative bulldozing on record”.

I promised you that I wouldn’t be dropping this.

In the meantime, law-abiding firearm owners have raised with me on countless occasions the problems with the legislation and its chaotic rollout.

Last week, I was appointed as Opposition Leader in the Legislative Council.

And I’m pleased to report that this afternoon the Opposition’s motion referring Labor’s shambolic firearm laws for a full public inquiry was passed!
Make no mistake, this was the first opportunity the Opposition had in the newly constituted upper house to move such a motion.

However, this motion by the Liberal Opposition simply would not have passed without the support of our Alliance partners the National Party along with critical support from the Animal Justice Party, Australian Christians, the Greens, Legalise Cannabis Party, and One Nation.

But most of all, this passed because people, like you, paid attention and persisted.

You Called. Emailed. Asked questions.

And this is why perseverance matters!

Together we didn’t just sit back and allow Labor’s arrogance, contempt and incompetence to be tolerated.

You wanted consultation. You wanted answers. You wanted workable responsible regulation of firearms in our State.

This encouraging outcome will now see the Standing Committee on Legislation report on the problems that have emerged with these new laws and recommend amendments to ensure our State’s laws are workable and effective.

We can reasonably expect the Committee to call for public submissions shortly and I will keep you updated once we have heard from the Standing Committee.

Thankyou.
Nick

[Wapiti]

Facepalm emoji needed again

[bigrich]

yeah wow. a full enquiry into labor's jack booted behaviour . next best thing to a repeal of the laws , could this possibly lead to that ? i'll be watching with interest and am wondering about MSM coverage . will the victimisation of LAFO finally be made public ? quite surprised at who supported the enquiry for sure

[Oldbloke]

yeah wow. a full enquiry into labor's jack booted behaviour . next best thing to a [i]repeal[/i] of the laws , could this possibly lead to that ? i'll be watching with interest and am wondering about MSM coverage . will the victimisation of LAFO finally be made public ? quite surprised at who supported the enquiry for sure

Jeff Kennet was known as "jack boot jeff". Just a reminder that they are all the same.

IMO a repeal is very unlikely. Perhaps some sensible changes. We can only hope.

[Faedy]

It was good to watch unfold.
Let's hope some sensible changes are made to the unworkable bulls**t.

[Wapiti]

Am I just suspicious of supposed conservative politicians who have already failed WA shooters already this year, spinning out what amounts to bullsh*t fairyfloss?

[deye243]

This won't change a thing and on another note what about all those buggers who have already lost their property they won't be able to get it back because those communists would have already crushed it

[1886]

This is also encouraging and puts the acid on the Govt to agree.

Nationals Call for immediate halt to implementation of Firearms Regulations

Leader of The Nationals WA, Shane Love MLA, has called on the Cook Labor Government to immediately halt the implementation of the Firearms Act 2024 regulations following a significant decision by the Western Australian Legislative Council.

Today the Upper House has successfully passed a motion to refer the Firearms Act 2024 to the Standing Commission on Legislation, which will now examine the implementation of the flawed regulations and report its findings to Parliament within three months.

The very fact that Labor supported sending the Firearms Act to the Standing Commission on Legislation for review is a clear admission, they know they’ve got it wrong, they know they’ve botched the implementation, and they now need advice on how to fix it.

They cannot, in good faith or conscience, continue implementing these regulations while simultaneously admitting they need further scrutiny. The regulations must be stopped. Now.

This is a step in the right direction, a chance to shine a light on the chaos and confusion created by Labor’s rushed approach,

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Leader of the Nationals WA, Mr Shane Love MLA thanked fellow Opposition parties for standing in support of this referral saying it demonstrates a shared commitment to holding the Cook Labor Government to account.

It is now incumbent on the Government to act responsibly. The Cook Labor Government must immediately extend its 90-day transition period to 12 months, allowing time to properly review and implement the findings before proceeding with any further rollout of Firearms regulation.

Mr Love said the regulations have created widespread confusion and distress among legitimate firearms owners including farmers, pest controllers, sporting shooters, collectors and dealers, many of whom rely on firearms for their livelihood or lawful recreation.

Today’s decision shows there is widespread recognition of just how flawed the regulations are.

The Cook Labor Government must stop digging in and start listening. They must pause these regulations now, and do the right thing, by responsible law-abiding Western Australians.

[geoff]

Am I just suspicious of supposed conservative politicians who have already failed WA shooters already this year, spinning out what amounts to bullsh*t fairyfloss?

Whilst you and I have had our fair share of disagreeance on the general topic of WA law reform.....this is something we can agree on immediately right out of the gate.

Look an inquiry is fine enough I guess. Better than no inquiry? It will just tell us what we all already know - have a look at the terms of reference.

This is the same sort of processes and machinations that gave us the 2016 Law Reform Commission report and that was a great document but has ultimately proved completely meaningless when it came to it.

Nick Goiran would sell shooters down the river in a heartbeat if he didn't think there was an electoral wedge to drive. Truly a craven, self interested politician if there ever was one. But thanks for the inquiry

[womble]

Only slightly less rapey than the other guy.

So there’s that..

[Wapiti]

Am I just suspicious of supposed conservative politicians who have already failed WA shooters already this year, spinning out what amounts to bullsh*t fairyfloss?

Whilst you and I have had our fair share of disagreeance on the general topic of WA law reform.....this is something we can agree on immediately right out of the gate.

Look an inquiry is fine enough I guess. Better than no inquiry? It will just tell us what we all already know - have a look at the terms of reference.

This is the same sort of processes and machinations that gave us the 2016 Law Reform Commission report and that was a great document but has ultimately proved completely meaningless when it came to it.

Nick Goiran would sell shooters down the river in a heartbeat if he didn't think there was an electoral wedge to drive. Truly a craven, self interested politician if there ever was one. But thanks for the inquiry

I have to admit that I am very set on what constitutes human behavior and how to never let bullies win. And I'm not trying to be a smartarse when I remind everyone that the softly, softly approach to deliberately vicious politicians and police was as if nobody stood up at all.

I just received this info of how Shooters Union, who are the standout voice for shooters elsewhere in Aus, have so far been ignored in their request to have a voice and presence in this working group exposing the insanity of these laws and their incompetent rollout -
Worth a look for you who want to stay completely informed.
https://shootersunion.com.au/news/shoot ... ndgrid.com

[safeshot]

"It is not the beginning of the end. It is, the end of the beginning."
Well done Nick.
He was supported by many Alp members, the greens (yes) the animal justice party, One nation, and the Nats and the Liberal members.

[Oldbloke]

In Vic the ALP Gov seems to have backed down or at least be re thinking the new emergency services levy in relation to farmers.
They had a pretty big rally/protest in Melbourne recently.

I wonder if shooters in WA had had a similar rally early on in the process if the Gov over in WA would have rethought the new FA Act?? We will never know I guess.

[geoff]

In Vic the ALP Gov seems to have backed down or at least be re thinking the new emergency services levy in relation to farmers.
They had a pretty big rally/protest in Melbourne recently.

I wonder if shooters in WA had had a similar rally early on in the process if the Gov over in WA would have rethought the new FA Act?? We will never know I guess.

Another uninformed eastern states heckler

The unanimous Labor support for the review of their own flagship legislation probably signals more about people's attitudes towards Paul Papalia than their attitudes towards voters.

[womble]

I read that in the purple wiggle’s voice.

Wake up Geoff. They’re coming for your guns.

This is what happens pre coffee. I should never login here first.

[bigrich]

I read that in the purple wiggle’s voice.

Wake up Geoff. They’re coming for your guns.

This is what happens pre coffee. I should never login here first.

never mind the coffee , i think less medical pot is in order

[bigrich]

In Vic the ALP Gov seems to have backed down or at least be re thinking the new emergency services levy in relation to farmers.
They had a pretty big rally/protest in Melbourne recently.

I wonder if shooters in WA had had a similar rally early on in the process if the Gov over in WA would have rethought the new FA Act?? We will never know I guess.

Another uninformed eastern states heckler

The unanimous Labor support for the review of their own flagship legislation probably signals more about people's attitudes towards Paul Papalia than their attitudes towards voters.

i don't find OB's post heckling at all

[Wapiti]

I read that in the purple wiggle’s voice.

Wake up Geoff. They’re coming for your guns.

This is what happens pre coffee. I should never login here first.

Priorities mate, definitely.
The coffee is brewing and a cup poured before anything else gets priority first thing in the morning.

[Wapiti]

In Vic the ALP Gov seems to have backed down or at least be re thinking the new emergency services levy in relation to farmers.
They had a pretty big rally/protest in Melbourne recently.

I wonder if shooters in WA had had a similar rally early on in the process if the Gov over in WA would have rethought the new FA Act?? We will never know I guess.

Another uninformed eastern states heckler

The unanimous Labor support for the review of their own flagship legislation probably signals more about people's attitudes towards Paul Papalia than their attitudes towards voters.

i don't find OB's post heckling at all

Geoff's right, Bigrich.

"OB" knows exactly what went on in WA, the low-turnout rallies and how shooters representatives warned people off mass-meeting in case of "nazi infiltrators".
He followed every post on it and also commented on every post.
He IS sh*t-stirring, looking for a reaction and some attention without committing to anything as usual.

Yes, farmers, as I said in WA about the black fellas BS, farmers will not be f**ked over, and in Vic it's only just started. Let alone the Labor c**ts stealing our SMSF farms off us with "unrealised gains".
Like the wind factory up north from here we jumped on and got cancelled, the 202-turbine one we just got hit with here in Stanthorpe aint going to go ahead either, can promise you that. I am off today getting support, and it just isn't happening.

I get completely that Geoff is touchy about it, but there is a BIG lesson to be learned from WA and people must wake up that what happened was a complete f**kup.
It is worth remembering that those who don't learn from history's mistakes are destined to repeat them. Eastern states hecklers, take note.

[Oldbloke]

In Vic the ALP Gov seems to have backed down or at least be re thinking the new emergency services levy in relation to farmers.
They had a pretty big rally/protest in Melbourne recently.

I wonder if shooters in WA had had a similar rally early on in the process if the Gov over in WA would have rethought the new FA Act?? We will never know I guess.

Another uninformed eastern states heckler

The unanimous Labor support for the review of their own flagship legislation probably signals more about people's attitudes towards Paul Papalia than their attitudes towards voters.

i don't find OB's post heckling at all

It certainly was not. On numerous times I've expressed an opinion that what has happened is sh1t.

It was simply an observation. And certainly no alteria motive.

I certainly don't know why a FA owner of 52 years would heckle the WA shooters.

But of course a few here will do their best to twist all my posts against me. Sometimes even miss quoting me. Perhaps they are the ones with "issues".

Sometimes protests work, sometimes they don't. Seems it's had a positive effect for vic farmers on this occasion. We will wait and see I guess.

[bigrich]

i interpreted OB's post to be a more "what if" observation than a sh!t stir against WA LAFO's . that can be the problem with internet social media , things are misinterpreted . at least that's how i see it

[Oldbloke]

i interpreted OB's post to be a more "what if" observation than a sh!t stir against WA LAFO's . that can be the problem with internet social media , things are misinterpreted . at least that's how i see it

That would be fair. Or, perhaps an opportunity missed.

Too late now.

Perhaps intentionally "misinterpreted". I will never know for sure, I'm not a mind reader.

[womble]

In Vic the ALP Gov seems to have backed down or at least be re thinking the new emergency services levy in relation to farmers.
They had a pretty big rally/protest in Melbourne recently.

I wonder if shooters in WA had had a similar rally early on in the process if the Gov over in WA would have rethought the new FA Act?? We will never know I guess.

Another uninformed eastern states heckler

The unanimous Labor support for the review of their own flagship legislation probably signals more about people's attitudes towards Paul Papalia than their attitudes towards voters.

i don't find OB's post heckling at all

Geoff's right, Bigrich.

"OB" knows exactly what went on in WA, the low-turnout rallies and how shooters representatives warned people off mass-meeting in case of "nazi infiltrators".
He followed every post on it and also commented on every post.
He IS sh*t-stirring, looking for a reaction and some attention without committing to anything as usual.

Yes, farmers, as I said in WA about the black fellas BS, farmers will not be f**ked over, and in Vic it's only just started. Let alone the Labor c**ts stealing our SMSF farms off us with "unrealised gains".
Like the wind factory up north from here we jumped on and got cancelled, the 202-turbine one we just got hit with here in Stanthorpe aint going to go ahead either, can promise you that. I am off today getting support, and it just isn't happening.

I get completely that Geoff is touchy about it, but there is a BIG lesson to be learned from WA and people must wake up that what happened was a complete f**kup.
It is worth remembering that those who don't learn from history's mistakes are destined to repeat them. Eastern states hecklers, take note.

I haven’t followed it that closely.

But no public rally rally was a good call.
The media would have picked out the dumbest looking attendee they could find to interview and crucified us.
They would bury us.

Neo nazis gate crashing. I don’t know if they’d make the trip from out east. But yes it’s a genuine risk. They do hijack rallies and public events.
It’s not uncommon nowadays for public rallies to have their events hijacked by organised groups with their own agendas

Too great a risk. Next minute sky news is showing angry gravy seals in maga hats .
Impressions matter. Public image matters. And we wouldn’t have that control. The media would.

It’s good to know there are some wise people behind the scenes making these decisions.

[bigrich]

I haven’t followed it that closely.

But no public rally rally was a good call.
The media would have picked out the dumbest looking attendee they could find to interview and crucified us.
They would bury us.

Neo nazis gate crashing. I don’t know if they’d make the trip from out east. But yes it’s a genuine risk. They do hijack rallies and public events.
It’s not uncommon nowadays for public rallies to have their events hijacked by organised groups with their own agendas

Too great a risk. Next minute sky news is showing angry gravy seals in maga hats .
Impressions matter. Public image matters. And we wouldn’t have that control. The media would.

It’s good to know there are some wise people behind the scenes making these decisions.

i agree womble , these are definite risks, and public perception is everything these days , the truth seems to fall by the wayside thanks to MSM . and politicians will twist that to their own benefit. however a mass turnout like the farmers in VIC , or the emergency services protesting mandatory covid vaxes in brissy paid off . and no, i'm not trolling LAFO's in WA with this statement

[Wapiti]

You guys do you as they say.

It is very disappointing reading all the excuses for inaction in WA. All I can say again is, well, being frightened of what might've happened if they stood up and made a big stand, as well as public perception of it, worked just great didn't it.

When people are worried about what others think about them, for example a public who prior to this already couldn't care less about whether guns were banned from "rednecks" in the 'burbs, they deserve to fail.
Trying to claw back something after a government so successfully indoctrinates the pubic against it to the uninformed masses is impossible.
No steps forward, 5 steps back.

It's actually pitiful to me, but an eye opener just the same. I'm pretty much sure now where the white ants are.
And it's no wonder that sporting shooters have been deserted by groups there who could've helped them succeed. But who'd want to side with people determined to "wait and see how it works out" and shiver.
Again, how's that working for you so far? Don't bother answering with another excuse.

[animalpest]

I have an excuse but I can't be bothered explaining it to you

[womble]

I have a note from my mum

[safeshot]

Yes a great result.
Thankyou Nick Goiran!

I did some phoning to many mp's and the Greens lady was entirely receptive as they dont want animals being subject to poisons and agreed that a good shot (head shot) is the kindest disposal of a feral.
and the others as well.
"Its not the beginning of the end but it is the end of the beginning".
Churchill at the end of the world war desert campaigns.
NB.
There was no mention on the ABC. Did any commercial chanels news mention this?

Did the "west australian" cover this? or are they re- counting their 30 pieces of silver?

[womble]

West Australian has an article but it’s paywall and I’m not giving them a piece of silver

[womble]

If the bill isn’t past in some reasonable form then recreational shooters in NSW should go on strike.
Coordinated strike effort through all hunting/shooting orgs.
For a month or two .
With the floods that would double the pig numbers in 6 months.
Leverage.

f*** ‘em

I believe it was Wapiti that pointed out they get little to none recognition for their volunteer conservation work in the media.

Now here’s a story your right wing media will report on.
Rumour of.