overreaction

[on_one_wheel]

"Completely remove all noise from a full hunting round"
Please ... spare me
You'd need a supressor the size of a 44 gallon drum.

And nobody here has said that. It's ridiculous, and typical of some social media. You need to experience something before making comment.
A properly engineered commercial suppressor can and does completely take the blast shockwave out of a full power 308 round, but the supersonic crack is still above the threshold of safe exposure.
But that's the "internet".
On the internet the wheels fall off and maybe you are only left on one.

I'm out, the BS too much for me.

"They completely take the blast pressure away with full-power ammo, and the only thing present is the supersonic crack"


Their your words Wapiti, please don't assume my experience, you'll only make an ass of yourself.


And yes, I do have experience with supressed 7.62 x 39

Sure it made a difference but it was anything but quiet, they still go bang.


You'd better get back to your Hollywood movies where they use silencers

[fussy]

I was just thinking, at what point is a good person able to do some sighting in of their rifles?
A line drawn with yes on one side that's considered lightly populated or "country", no on the other because it's too residential?
40 acre blocks? 100 acres? Is there a circle around an area that's taboo? Or it's OK if there aren't people who call the cops if they hear loud noises?
Goes both way I suppose.

I spoke with WLB in Qld. The 40 acre rule is BS. It's not the law, just an attempt to put another obstruction in the way, so people with < 40 acres give up on gun ownership.

[Oldbloke]

"They completely take the blast pressure away with full-power ammo, and the only thing present is the supersonic crack"


Their your words Wapiti, please don't assume my experience, you'll only make an ass of yourself.


And yes, I do have experience with supressed 7.62 x 39

Sure it made a difference but it was anything but quiet, they still go bang.

Seems to me you both agree. Removes some noise, not all of it. Just wording it differently.

[womble]

I think the next generation might get things turned around here. So we can be like a more advanced civilisation like New Zealand.

I think inevitably Americans will start suing because the gun they bought was too loud.

And you can already see manufacturers getting in first before they get sued. With so many guns on the market today that are suppressor compliant.

So, likely an industry led turnaround inevitably. To meet some some sort of safety compliance crap. Hearing loss is already recognised here as a a very significant impact , reduction in standard of life.

I think common sense will prevail here someday but not in our current political climate.

Anyway I’m getting interested in integrally suppressed now . Like wow https://m.youtube.com/shorts/PNV3xffsnGw

[bigrich]

I think the next generation might get things turned around here. So we can be like a more advanced civilisation like New Zealand.

I think inevitably Americans will start suing because the gun they bought was too loud.

And you can already see manufacturers getting in first before they get sued. With so many guns on the market today that are suppressor compliant.

So, likely an industry led turnaround inevitably. To meet some some sort of safety compliance crap. Hearing loss is already recognised here as a a very significant impact , reduction in standard of life.

I think common sense will prevail here someday but not in our current political climate.

Anyway I’m getting interested in integrally suppressed now . Like wow https://m.youtube.com/shorts/PNV3xffsnGw

i think the main fear of our authorities is that if they let people use suppressors it'll result in assassinations and lots of covert murders . i mean that's what happens in the movies right

[No1_49er]

Finally, even the Americans (USA) have realised that their legislation re' the tax on suppressors (a de facto ban) was a lie, now set for repeal.

https://www.ssusa.org/content/congress- ... ppressors/

Now it's our turn???
Oh, sorry. I forgot that we've got numptie politicians to educate first.
Maybe, just maybe?

[alexjones]

The average Australian is a limp wrist loser who will just say "go live in America".

I can't name the amount of times I have been told to go move to America when I have mentioned guns or self defence. Australians really lack emotional maturity around guns and self defence. They see a public servant with a gun on the daily and they think its normal but the thought of an armed citizen wigs them out. Retardation if you ask me.

Govern me harder daddy is the Australian national ethos.

[Bugman]

I think the next generation might get things turned around here. So we can be like a more advanced civilisation like New Zealand.

I think inevitably Americans will start suing because the gun they bought was too loud.

And you can already see manufacturers getting in first before they get sued. With so many guns on the market today that are suppressor compliant.

So, likely an industry led turnaround inevitably. To meet some some sort of safety compliance crap. Hearing loss is already recognised here as a a very significant impact , reduction in standard of life.

I think common sense will prevail here someday but not in our current political climate.

Anyway I’m getting interested in integrally suppressed now . Like wow https://m.youtube.com/shorts/PNV3xffsnGw

i think the main fear of our authorities is that if they let people use suppressors it'll result in assassinations and lots of covert murders . i mean that's what happens in the movies right

Nah. Not here in NSW. The crooks love drive buys, even during daylight hours, then burning the getaway car.
Suppressors would ruin all their fun.

[alexjones]

The thing is though criminals don't use suppressors. Even when they were less restricted criminals never used them. In America they don't really get used either by criminals. Just like 50bmg. It is banned in QLD but America only has had 2 murders with 50bmg in the last 30 years. Nobody goes on mass shooting with a 15kg rifle.

[No1_49er]

The thing is though criminals don't use suppressors. Even when they were less restricted criminals never used them. In America they don't really get used either by criminals. Just like 50bmg. It is banned in QLD but America only has had 2 murders with 50bmg in the last 30 years. Nobody goes on mass shooting with a 15kg rifle.

Nor is there any evidence that NZ suffers from a multitude of criminal acts, including murder, with firearms fitted with suppressors. You'd be hard pressed to find a firearm there WITHOUT a suppressor!

[womble]

No one’s advocating for criminals to have suppressors .

If a criminal wanted a suppressor he could just buy one of temu or similar.

I could link websites in Australia where you can buy them illegally. But I don’t think that’s a good idea. And anyone thinking of doing that there is a very good chance those sites are operated by federal police to entrap crooks.
Or just elaborate scams to get dumbass criminals to throw a big chunk of bitcoin their way.

If you start adopting the mindset that we can’t own anything because criminals might steal and misuse it, then you’re really falling into a trap that’s been deliberately set for you to justify taking your stuff of you.

You are not responsible or accountable for someone else’s actions or criminal behaviour.

Assuming you did legally own a suppressor I’ve no doubt you would take every reasonable precaution to deter theft.
Beyond that is beyond your control. That’s why it’s reasonable.

And that’s why it’s unreasonable to hold you to account if a criminal steals your suppressor.
And by that reasoning criminal use of suppressors is irrelevant to advocating for the legal use for their prescribed purpose.

We can’t all live our lives dictated by what criminals might do to us. They’re not in charge here. The government is.

Ok so the criminals are in charge. But not the type of criminals that steal supressors. Probably worse criminals actually but that’s not my point.

Actually now I don’t even know what point I was trying to make. It’s 3:30 in the morning I don’t need this s**t

[Oldbloke]

Reasonable in NZ.

https://www.gunworks.co.nz/suppressor-222-to.html

[No1_49er]

Reasonable in NZ.

https://www.gunworks.co.nz/suppressor-222-to.html

And here https://www.dpt.co.nz/

And as above, the US is finally getting its sh!t together https://www.ssusa.org/content/congress- ... ppressors/