Broad arrow cafe bullet

[womble]

Took a screenshot but too big to load.

This is from the police training video that was leaked. Warning very graphic footage in these tapes.

Pause 0.08 in from the start. Circled yellow chalk

Dose’nt look like 223. . Not jacketed, straight wall cartridge, maybe 357 or 44 or similar. If it’s 38 that’s even more strange.

It shouldn’t be there. I have never noticed that before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qPtokmn7Juw

[Oldbloke]

At bottom of screen. Could it be lip stick?

But yes, looks like a pistol case.

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[womble]

No reason to circle lipstick

[Billo]

357M no doubt

[bladeracer]

Took a screenshot but too big to load.

This is from the police training video that was leaked. Warning very graphic footage in these tapes.

Pause 0.08 in from the start. Circled yellow chalk

Dose’nt look like 223. . Not jacketed, straight wall cartridge, maybe 357 or 44 or similar. If it’s 38 that’s even more strange.

It shouldn’t be there. I have never noticed that before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qPtokmn7Juw

How did he fire over 250rds of .308...in a .223 rifle?

[No1Mk3]

At bottom of screen. Could it be lip stick?

But yes, looks like a pistol case.

Screenshot_20250618-175517_Samsung Internet.jpg

"Looks like", do you have evidence? No, so it COULD be lipstick.

[No1Mk3]

357M no doubt

Huge doubt, from 2 feet away under perfect visibility most people, even very experienced shooters, would be hard pushed to distinguish 357 from 38Spl, but in a very grainy, blurred image you have no doubt?

[No1Mk3]

No reason to circle lipstick

How do you deduce it is the lipstick circled? Were you there? Did you take the photo? Can you discount the possibilty a bullet hole in the floor is what is circled?

[No1Mk3]

Took a screenshot but too big to load.

This is from the police training video that was leaked. Warning very graphic footage in these tapes.

Pause 0.08 in from the start. Circled yellow chalk

Dose’nt look like 223. . Not jacketed, straight wall cartridge, maybe 357 or 44 or similar. If it’s 38 that’s even more strange.

It shouldn’t be there. I have never noticed that before.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qPtokmn7Juw

How did he fire over 250rds of .308...in a .223 rifle?

Watch the vid again mate, at 1:23 the statement is "during the 18 hours of the siege Martyn Bryant fired over 250 rounds of point 308 ammunition", then it cuts to the Officer showing the AR15 as the rifle used in the cafe killing of 20 people, nowhere in the vid does it suggest he used the SLR in the cafe, the"Siege" was long after he left the scene.

[alexjones]

He used the ar15 in the cafe. Then the fn fal outside the cafe, in the bus stop area, the toll booth area and the petrol station. It was found on the roof of the granny flat at seascape.

He also used sks rifles that were inside seascape to shoot at police.

This is the offical narrative but we were not there and have not seen the evidence.

The odd thing about the ar15 was that the breech had been blown out by a hot load NOT by the fire. The stock of the rifle burnt from the fire.

[alexjones]

Only the police commissioner of Tasmania has access to the records until the year 2090.

Release the records if you want to put the conspiracy to rest. Show us the finger prints from the ar15 magazine left at the cafe and the sports bag and the food tray that we know the killer used.

[wrenchman]

it was a sad situation made even more sad it was used to go after the people that were doing every thing legal and right the saying here is it only takes one person to ruin for the rest.

[womble]

At bottom of screen. Could it be lip stick?

But yes, looks like a pistol case.

Screenshot_20250618-175517_Samsung Internet.jpg

"Looks like", do you have evidence? No, so it COULD be lipstick.

There probably is lipstick lying around out of someone’s handbag but it’s irrelevant.
All the relevant stuff to the mass shooting is circled in yellow chalk, like this object.

[womble]

No reason to circle lipstick

How do you deduce it is the lipstick circled? Were you there? Did you take the photo? Can you discount the possibilty a bullet hole in the floor is what is circled?

I’m not discounting anything.
I think that’s a live round. It’s just what I think. I don’t know anything.

[womble]

He used the ar15 in the cafe. Then the fn fal outside the cafe, in the bus stop area, the toll booth area and the petrol station. It was found on the roof of the granny flat at seascape.

He also used sks rifles that were inside seascape to shoot at police.

This is the offical narrative but we were not there and have not seen the evidence.

The odd thing about the ar15 was that the breech had been blown out by a hot load NOT by the fire. The stock of the rifle burnt from the fire.

I don’t think he used the slr until the siege. Because it was at that property. Not his. He reloaded the ar15 before exiting the cafe.

[womble]

Only the police commissioner of Tasmania has access to the records until the year 2090.

Release the records if you want to put the conspiracy to rest. Show us the finger prints from the ar15 magazine left at the cafe and the sports bag and the food tray that we know the killer used.

I was done with this crap until they just decided to seal it for another 75 years. Something is not right.

[womble]

So anyway, took another look. And theres a lot more out there to find now. Most of its crap.
But if you filter through the crap you find strange things.

This is another image of the shooter in the car park. He’s tall blond, black jacket. But here he has dark pants.

All other footage I can find has the shooter tall blond, black jacket and white pants.



Did he have an identical twin

[womble]

The main thing that’s irritating me is this is someone who’s had considerable training. And the police realise that early on. They’re not going anywhere near him. They just don’t. The sog don’t. They hole up and wait for him to come out.
And they know the hostages are long dead. They know it.

He talked to them for hours but all that’s released is a tiny snippet early on and even from that it’s obvious.
Because they’ve figured out he killed them all and they don’t go in. Not for lack of trying. They just can’t get to him.

Because he has them all pinned down and they can’t see him. He’s not firing from the house. Or not only firing from the house.
This is at night time and this bloke knows what he’s doing. He’s a scary operator and he has them all contained on all sides.

They are negotiating with someone in the house on the landline, but they’re being fired on from somewhere else at the same time.
And this has them completely bewildered.

He’s literally saying he can see one of the sog and fires on them while he’s on the landline . And not from a window in the house.
You can out manoeuvre one person. If you’ve got two people that’s exponentially more difficult.

This is not his (or their) first rodeo. And he (or they) are very proficient with military weapons. And he (or they) know how to counter sog strategy.

I think they burnt him out in the end. They torched the joint somehow. Ran out of options.

IQ of 66
bulls**t

[No1Mk3]

At bottom of screen. Could it be lip stick?

But yes, looks like a pistol case.

Screenshot_20250618-175517_Samsung Internet.jpg

"Looks like", do you have evidence? No, so it COULD be lipstick.

There probably is lipstick lying around out of someone’s handbag but it’s irrelevant.
All the relevant stuff to the mass shooting is circled in yellow chalk, like this object.

Again, where is your evidence that it is "this object" that is the relevant item circled and not some plece of forensic evidence?

[No1Mk3]

He used the ar15 in the cafe. Then the fn fal outside the cafe, in the bus stop area, the toll booth area and the petrol station. It was found on the roof of the granny flat at seascape.

He also used sks rifles that were inside seascape to shoot at police.

This is the offical narrative but we were not there and have not seen the evidence.

The odd thing about the ar15 was that the breech had been blown out by a hot load NOT by the fire. The stock of the rifle burnt from the fire.

I don’t think he used the slr until the siege. Because it was at that property. Not his. He reloaded the ar15 before exiting the cafe.

He killed 7 people and wounded 2 others at Port Arthur with the SLR, including Mrs Mikac and her 2 Daughters Alannah & Madeline whom he shot point blank after stopping his car. 2 killed & 2 wounded at the buses. Mikacs on the way to the exit and 4 killed at the exit when he stole their car.

[Oldbloke]

Its a sh1t image. NFI who circled it in yellow.

I was simply suggesting that it was possibly lip stick and not ammo.

No evidence that it ammo or lipstick. Could be almost anything.

[No1Mk3]

The main thing that’s irritating me is this is someone who’s had considerable training. And the police realise that early on. They’re not going anywhere near him. They just don’t. The sog don’t. They hole up and wait for him to come out.
And they know the hostages are long dead. They know it.

He talked to them for hours but all that’s released is a tiny snippet early on and even from that it’s obvious.
Because they’ve figured out he killed them all and they don’t go in. Not for lack of trying. They just can’t get to him.

Because he has them all pinned down and they can’t see him. He’s not firing from the house. Or not only firing from the house.
This is at night time and this bloke knows what he’s doing. He’s a scary operator and he has them all contained on all sides.

They are negotiating with someone in the house on the landline, but they’re being fired on from somewhere else at the same time.
And this has them completely bewildered.

He’s literally saying he can see one of the sog and fires on them while he’s on the landline . And not from a window in the house.
You can out manoeuvre one person. If you’ve got two people that’s exponentially more difficult.

This is not his (or their) first rodeo. And he (or they) are very proficient with military weapons. And he (or they) know how to counter sog strategy.

I think they burnt him out in the end. They torched the joint somehow. Ran out of options.

IQ of 66
bulls**t

Considerable training? Every victim in the cafe and gift shop were killed point blank, at the buses all were shot within 15 yards, the Mikacs point blank, at the exit point blank whenever he shot over 50 yards he missed most and wounded 3. He had considerable experience shooting animals & people with an air rifle when he was younger ( the inability of his Father to stop this and the strain of dealing with Police after such events was a contributing factor to his suicide). He was mentally competent enough to hold a Passport and travel Internationally on his own, as well as obtain a Drivers Licence, this whole garbage about his IQ being too low to do things is crud. Talk to those, as I have, who spent years guarding him in Risdon and you get a better idea of the actual rat cunning, devious perverted manipulating raping dog he is.

[geoff]

The main thing that’s irritating me is this is someone who’s had considerable training. And the police realise that early on. They’re not going anywhere near him. They just don’t. The sog don’t. They hole up and wait for him to come out.
And they know the hostages are long dead. They know it.

He talked to them for hours but all that’s released is a tiny snippet early on and even from that it’s obvious.
Because they’ve figured out he killed them all and they don’t go in. Not for lack of trying. They just can’t get to him.

Because he has them all pinned down and they can’t see him. He’s not firing from the house. Or not only firing from the house.
This is at night time and this bloke knows what he’s doing. He’s a scary operator and he has them all contained on all sides.

They are negotiating with someone in the house on the landline, but they’re being fired on from somewhere else at the same time.
And this has them completely bewildered.

He’s literally saying he can see one of the sog and fires on them while he’s on the landline . And not from a window in the house.
You can out manoeuvre one person. If you’ve got two people that’s exponentially more difficult.

This is not his (or their) first rodeo. And he (or they) are very proficient with military weapons. And he (or they) know how to counter sog strategy.

I think they burnt him out in the end. They torched the joint somehow. Ran out of options.

IQ of 66
bulls**t

Considerable training? Every victim in the cafe and gift shop were killed point blank, at the buses all were shot within 15 yards, the Mikacs point blank, at the exit point blank whenever he shot over 50 yards he missed most and wounded 3. He had considerable experience shooting animals & people with an air rifle when he was younger ( the inability of his Father to stop this and the strain of dealing with Police after such events was a contributing factor to his suicide). He was mentally competent enough to hold a Passport and travel Internationally on his own, as well as obtain a Drivers Licence, this whole garbage about his IQ being too low to do things is crud. Talk to those, as I have, who spent years guarding him in Risdon and you get a better idea of the actual rat cunning, devious perverted manipulating raping dog he is.

I don't remember sitting an exam to get a passport lol wtf

[Bugman]

From my point of view, it is sad this subject has been dragged up again, for whatever reason.

[womble]

The main thing that’s irritating me is this is someone who’s had considerable training. And the police realise that early on. They’re not going anywhere near him. They just don’t. The sog don’t. They hole up and wait for him to come out.
And they know the hostages are long dead. They know it.

He talked to them for hours but all that’s released is a tiny snippet early on and even from that it’s obvious.
Because they’ve figured out he killed them all and they don’t go in. Not for lack of trying. They just can’t get to him.

Because he has them all pinned down and they can’t see him. He’s not firing from the house. Or not only firing from the house.
This is at night time and this bloke knows what he’s doing. He’s a scary operator and he has them all contained on all sides.

They are negotiating with someone in the house on the landline, but they’re being fired on from somewhere else at the same time.
And this has them completely bewildered.

He’s literally saying he can see one of the sog and fires on them while he’s on the landline . And not from a window in the house.
You can out manoeuvre one person. If you’ve got two people that’s exponentially more difficult.

This is not his (or their) first rodeo. And he (or they) are very proficient with military weapons. And he (or they) know how to counter sog strategy.

I think they burnt him out in the end. They torched the joint somehow. Ran out of options.

IQ of 66
bulls**t

Considerable training? Every victim in the cafe and gift shop were killed point blank, at the buses all were shot within 15 yards, the Mikacs point blank, at the exit point blank whenever he shot over 50 yards he missed most and wounded 3. He had considerable experience shooting animals & people with an air rifle when he was younger ( the inability of his Father to stop this and the strain of dealing with Police after such events was a contributing factor to his suicide). He was mentally competent enough to hold a Passport and travel Internationally on his own, as well as obtain a Drivers Licence, this whole garbage about his IQ being too low to do things is crud. Talk to those, as I have, who spent years guarding him in Risdon and you get a better idea of the actual rat cunning, devious perverted manipulating raping dog he is.

I don't remember sitting an exam to get a passport lol wtf

Just proves he could spit out his own name and not much beyond that.

[womble]

No reason to circle lipstick

How do you deduce it is the lipstick circled? Were you there? Did you take the photo? Can you discount the possibilty a bullet hole in the floor is what is circled?

With my powers of deduction

[Oldbloke]

I don't understand this anymore.

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[womble]

So anyway, took another look. And theres a lot more out there to find now. Most of its crap.
But if you filter through the crap you find strange things.

This is another image of the shooter in the car park. He’s tall blond, black jacket. But here he has dark pants.

All other footage I can find has the shooter tall blond, black jacket and white pants.



Did he have an identical twin

And here is again, light blue pants, white shoes https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/criminalminds/images/1/10/Port_Arthur_footage.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130720061041

[No1Mk3]

The main thing that’s irritating me is this is someone who’s had considerable training. And the police realise that early on. They’re not going anywhere near him. They just don’t. The sog don’t. They hole up and wait for him to come out.
And they know the hostages are long dead. They know it.

He talked to them for hours but all that’s released is a tiny snippet early on and even from that it’s obvious.
Because they’ve figured out he killed them all and they don’t go in. Not for lack of trying. They just can’t get to him.

Because he has them all pinned down and they can’t see him. He’s not firing from the house. Or not only firing from the house.
This is at night time and this bloke knows what he’s doing. He’s a scary operator and he has them all contained on all sides.

They are negotiating with someone in the house on the landline, but they’re being fired on from somewhere else at the same time.
And this has them completely bewildered.

He’s literally saying he can see one of the sog and fires on them while he’s on the landline . And not from a window in the house.
You can out manoeuvre one person. If you’ve got two people that’s exponentially more difficult.

This is not his (or their) first rodeo. And he (or they) are very proficient with military weapons. And he (or they) know how to counter sog strategy.

I think they burnt him out in the end. They torched the joint somehow. Ran out of options.

IQ of 66
bulls**t

Considerable training? Every victim in the cafe and gift shop were killed point blank, at the buses all were shot within 15 yards, the Mikacs point blank, at the exit point blank whenever he shot over 50 yards he missed most and wounded 3. He had considerable experience shooting animals & people with an air rifle when he was younger ( the inability of his Father to stop this and the strain of dealing with Police after such events was a contributing factor to his suicide). He was mentally competent enough to hold a Passport and travel Internationally on his own, as well as obtain a Drivers Licence, this whole garbage about his IQ being too low to do things is crud. Talk to those, as I have, who spent years guarding him in Risdon and you get a better idea of the actual rat cunning, devious perverted manipulating raping dog he is.

I don't remember sitting an exam to get a passport lol wtf

The F is that it was posted he had an IQ of 66 as if that has any relevance to his ability to conduct the massacre, did you sit an exam for your drivers licence? As for Passport, you youself selected and quoted my writing including travei Internationally but not including the "on his own" bit which he did 14 times without getting into trouble, therefore showing his IQ of no relevance whatsoever to his ability to commit the crimes he did, on his own.

[bigrich]

Only the police commissioner of Tasmania has access to the records until the year 2090.

Release the records if you want to put the conspiracy to rest. Show us the finger prints from the ar15 magazine left at the cafe and the sports bag and the food tray that we know the killer used.

I was done with this crap until they just decided to seal it for another 75 years. Something is not right.

That’s the biggest thing isn’t it. No public court case or coroner’s report. All information sealed and unobtainable. Even the most sceptical person would have to ask why? One of the more bizarre facts is the morgue truck for a little place like tassie. The government shut down a documentary movie maker. There’s a major scandal behind port Arthur, whether it’s the conspiracy theories of a false flag operation, or gross incompetence from the police. Why are the facts around this event held in the highest secrecy. If you ask these questions publicly, people look at you as a conspiracy theory nutter. I remember our nations top journalist , Mike willisee asking some questions about unusual facts and his career was destroyed.