Surely the Victorian cop killer wasn't registered?

[womble]

Going by the mainstream media it’s looks like our collective punishment is a big push for a national registry.

Bigger push than current big push whatever.

Yep ok I guess that stops the criminals and homicidal maniacs .

They will definitely think twice about being homicidal maniacs now. And I am sure this will deter them.

[Jackaroo]

Police have just announced they took two people into custody as part of their investigation into the Porepunkah shooting.

Fugitive Squad detectives, along with Special Operations Group members, attended a Porepunkah address about 8:40pm on Thursday.

A 42-year-old woman and 15-year-old boy were safely arrested at the address and taken into custody.

[Jackaroo]

The media mention the SAS maybe involved in the hunt.

What's the legalities of a serving Australian Military person killing a civilian?

[JohnV]

They can get sworn in as special constables and that covers it . However in most instances the actual regular Police take credit for any shooting . I just saw some video footage from a drone or chopper showing a drone hovering over the bush in Victoria with multiple bright flashes coming from down in the bush . Not sure what I a seeing there but it could have been muzzle flashes or it could even be fake news . Dezi Freeman had a gun licence but the Police took it off him . Proably because of charges and threats against Police .

[womble]

Flash bang grenades probably.

Caves or old mines.

I just heard the older detective was an avid deer hunter and well known in hunting circles. Poor bloke was a week away from retirement.

[womble]

Weapon used to kill police confirmed home made shotgun.

Didn’t have his guns. Guess he still had shells.

I think he has police sidearms now.

[alexjones]

SAS is not involved its the commandos from Holsworthy.

Commandos are the tactical assault for east coast and the SAS is for the west coast.

Federal government can be called in for help when asked by the state.

[JohnV]

Weapon used to kill police confirmed home made shotgun.

Didn’t have his guns. Guess he still had shells.

I think he has police sidearms now.

Ok I see . Not exactly " High powered firearms " like the press is blabbing around .
It's a very bad business all round and I think it's time the Police overhauled their warrant serving procedures when they know they could be facing a nut job . A helmet and a ballistic shield would have likely saved them . Going to peoples doors is a dangerous job in this day and age . Maybe he took them by surprise .

[womble]

SAS is not involved its the commandos from Holsworthy.

Commandos are the tactical assault for east coast and the SAS is for the west coast.

Federal government can be called in for help when asked by the state.

Same thing

[Billo]

I'm just glad this cooker didnt have access to Semi Autos, we might have had 6 or 7 dead cops

[alexjones]

Do you know the action of the firearm he used do you?

[Billo]

Do you know the action of the firearm he used do you?

No, are you suggesting he home built himself a Browning A5 ??

Its clear this f-wit had murderous intent, I'm just glad he didn't have easy access to semi auto, if you have intel otherwise then share it

[womble]

Do you know the action of the firearm he used do you?

If news reports are to be believed a home made shotgun. Which suggests they had successfully confiscated his guns. But maybe had shells still. Earlier reports said he took the police sidearms also.
Home made shotgun not complicated. Slam gun. Just a trip to Bunnings.

[Wapiti]

Now there's "sexual abuse" kiddie fiddling allegations on the bloke.
Just pops up after 4 days, at least on the news up here.
Maybe the other descriptions they've been pinning on him haven't had enough of a demonising effect amongst the community and there was a need to ramp up the rhetoric.
"Don't assist him, he's an alleged child molester"

Who was that walking egg-on-sticks fat no-neck senior copper during the Victorian Covid farce that was fronting the media, calling anyone resisting getting the untested and ineffective vaccine forced into their bodies? He called anyone who wouldn't fall for the forced incarceration and restrictions "bat-shit crazy".
And the constant police brutality against citizens who are on a higher IQ level than them. People who are tradies, engineers and workers building the state not segregating people.
I wonder if they realise how low this has sunk this group of mindless public servants in the eyes of the people and wonder why?
They really need to take a hard look at what they alone are doing to cause these tragic, unnecessary and unacceptable events.

Edit: No way am I condoning this event, or behaviour.
I'm just putting forward what people everywhere are saying about this.
The same mismanagement is evident in the road toll... never before have cars been safer, and never before has this revenue raising police resources been more ramped up and determined to punish the public from their own mismanagement. How can I prove that? The road toll being worse than ever, at the expense of public safety and violence against innocent people by criminals allowed to stay on the streets.

Like the gun violence in the US... it is not the guns, but society perverting what would otherwise be good people to blow a fuse.

[Jackaroo]

Why haven't they come out and categorically stated by now that he was an unlicensed person to own firearms?
Its been five (5) days now and they knew this information before they went to arrest him, but still no statement.
Meanwhile we law abiding firearms owners are getting demonised once again, you can't turn on talkback radio without hearing calls for 'stricter gun controls'.

Was he unlicenced?
Was the murder weapon home made?

[alexjones]

Do you know the action of the firearm he used do you?

No, are you suggesting he home built himself a Browning A5 ??

Its clear this f-wit had murderous intent, I'm just glad he didn't have easy access to semi auto, if you have intel otherwise then share it

What does it matter what the action was? A criminal will do what they regardless.

Just because someone has a semi auto don't mean anything.

[alexjones]

I have a triple barrel break action shotgun. How is that different to a semi auto shotgun with a 3 round magazine?

Its not is it.

So don't blame the action, blame the nut behind the butt.

[Die Judicii]

I've been saying for years,,,,,,, Bring back the Death Penalty for these crimes.
Ronald was our last one,, before the do gooders stuffed everything up.

Bring it back and see the frequency of these types of crime drop dramatically.

It would lower the occupancy rates in the prison system, and then no ongoing costs to the taxpayers.

[fnq22]

Now there's "sexual abuse" kiddie fiddling allegations on the bloke.
Just pops up after 4 days, at least on the news up here.
Maybe the other descriptions they've been pinning on him haven't had enough of a demonising effect amongst the community and there was a need to ramp up the rhetoric.
"Don't assist him, he's an alleged child molester"

Bloody hell...pull the tin foil hat off man...

From the first day it was mentioned that the reason for the visit from 10 police was over child sexual allegations (person under 16) and firearms issues....

No-one needs to stitch this bloke up..there is years of documented evidence that he is an absolute nut job....and how can you take a guy seriously that is so anti- government yet spends his life bludging off a government pension...that just totally sums him up for me...

[Jackaroo]

I've been saying for years,,,,,,, Bring back the Death Penalty for these crimes.
Ronald was our last one,, before the do gooders stuffed everything up.

Bring it back and see the frequency of these types of crime drop dramatically.

It would lower the occupancy rates in the prison system, and then no ongoing costs to the taxpayers.

[Jackaroo]

They just can't help themselves can they, and why don't the cops come out and SAY he WASN'T a licenced firearms owner?

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[Billo]

Now there's "sexual abuse" kiddie fiddling allegations on the bloke.
Just pops up after 4 days, at least on the news up here.
Maybe the other descriptions they've been pinning on him haven't had enough of a demonising effect amongst the community and there was a need to ramp up the rhetoric.
"Don't assist him, he's an alleged child molester"

Who was that walking egg-on-sticks fat no-neck senior copper during the Victorian Covid farce that was fronting the media, calling anyone resisting getting the untested and ineffective vaccine forced into their bodies? He called anyone who wouldn't fall for the forced incarceration and restrictions "bat-shit crazy".
And the constant police brutality against citizens who are on a higher IQ level than them. People who are tradies, engineers and workers building the state not segregating people.
I wonder if they realise how low this has sunk this group of mindless public servants in the eyes of the people and wonder why?
They really need to take a hard look at what they alone are doing to cause these tragic, unnecessary and unacceptable events.

Edit: No way am I condoning this event, or behaviour.
I'm just putting forward what people everywhere are saying about this.
The same mismanagement is evident in the road toll... never before have cars been safer, and never before has this revenue raising police resources been more ramped up and determined to punish the public from their own mismanagement. How can I prove that? The road toll being worse than ever, at the expense of public safety and violence against innocent people by criminals allowed to stay on the streets.

Like the gun violence in the US... it is not the guns, but society perverting what would otherwise be good people to blow a fuse.

I cant believe you are defending a Kiddy fiddling piece of sh it, grow a brain and piss off from this forum, gutter rats like you are lower than scum

[Wapiti]

I'm not defending him at all, but you can't see that.
It must be terrible to be such a jealous, lifelong victim. Come to Daddy for a cuddle.

Maybe in your Victorian school, you enjoyed the Trans visitors that taught you sex-switching instead of comprehension when reading your "Billo is in the wrong body" booklets. Maybe mummy didn't make sure you understood the written word as you drew pictures of boys in dresses.
Be a good perpetual victim and highlight the part where I said I support him, or what he's done. Word for word.
If you can put your phone down and stop watching videos on how to transition, that is.

I'm intelligent enough to watch the system slowly dribbling out demonising new allegations, deliberately designed to make the public hate someone, and to cover up their complete incompetence. Despite what they did, or ALLEGEDLY have done.

The same routine they use to demonise gun owners, or anyone else that they want to deliberately marginalise, whilst at the same time they duck when the Jewish community is being demonised. But it's OK now because they told you how awful a bloke he apparently is, right?

Some people struggle through life by abusing others. Different opinions are still no excuse, but you can't even absorb the meaning of the written word.
Carry on hating the world and sucking up the rhetoric like a good boy.

[Billo]

Wow you just keep on digging that hole deeper

I'd suggest you take a breather wapiti and get off the internet for the day or week.

Solid gold rant defending this delusional murdered

[Jackaroo]

This nutjob was a Sovereign citizen, but happily accepted financial handouts from the government,

[bladeracer]

Now there's "sexual abuse" kiddie fiddling allegations on the bloke.
Just pops up after 4 days, at least on the news up here.

Prior sex abuse allegations were in one of the very first articles I read, within the first minutes of the incident, it was initially given as the reason Police were visiting him. I didn't see anything about the firearm prohibition order until some hours later.

[Billo]

This nutjob was a Sovereign citizen, but happily accepted financial handouts from the government,

Yeah mate this is pretty typical of cooker types, bloody parasitic hypocrites.

These cookers usually suffer from a Superiority Complex type syndrome, they have an exaggerated sense of self-importance to mask underlying feelings of inadequacy or low self-esteem. He aint no Rambo

[JohnV]

Surely the Victorian cop killer wasn't registered after all the police knew about him?

What a terrible tragedy for the killed officers and their families and colleagues.

I feel so sorry for his 15 year old son his life is ruined . These maniacs never stop to consider what they are doing to their own family . Apparently he had a gun licence at one stage but the Police revoked it . So he would have had some registered guns when he had a licence one would think . Police have expanded their search area but say they think he is still close by ??? Does not make a lot of sense . It's day 5 now and he could have coved a lot of ground . A local in an interview said " there is a lot of mines and shafts in the bush " Was that a clue ?? There is a lot of mines and shafts in the Buckland area . It's an almost impossible job now after 5 days , rain , snow , wind , mist and cold all hampering the search , Victorian high country is very thick bush and very rugged , they may never find him .

[bladeracer]

Surely the Victorian cop killer wasn't registered after all the police knew about him?

What a terrible tragedy for the killed officers and their families and colleagues.

I feel so sorry for his 15 year old son his life is ruined . These maniacs never stop to consider what they are doing to their own family . Apparently he had a gun licence at one stage but the Police revoked it . So he would have had some registered guns when he had a licence one would think . Police have expanded their search area but say they think he is still close by ??? Does not make a lot of sense . It's day 5 now and he could have coved a lot of ground . A local in an interview said " there is a lot of mines and shafts in the bush " Was that a clue ?? There is a lot of mines and shafts in the Buckland area . It's an almost impossible job now after 5 days , rain , snow , wind , mist and cold all hampering the search , Victorian high country is very thick bush and very rugged , they may never find him .

My guess is that the whole reason for living where he did is so he could build a hideout in the bush for when the crap hits the fan. He could hide in a hole for weeks, until his food stocks run out. I can't believe he managed to hike out through the bush that quickly, unless he had a dirt bike stashed out there somewhere.

[JohnV]

Explain what you mean by , " hike out through the bush " hike where . A reasonable fit person even in rugged country could do 5 k as the crow flies a day easily , more if he used tracks and ridge lines . 5 days could put him 25 k away from his abode or more .
I can't see the point in having a hideout too close to his home but I do agree he likely has one . Too easy to get spotted by someone if you do have to move about even after searching stops . He is either not in the bush at all or he is deep in the bush by now .
The NSW Police never caught Naden by searching although they did nearly get him , they caught him by gathering intel and predicting his movements and staking out likely places . It was the Military that caught him not the Police . Victorian bush is even thicker and more rugged than where Naden was in NSW and the weather harsher . It's a massive job .