Trail cam pics show good and bad, plenty of ferals about

[Wapiti]

Pics are always good to spice the place up a bit, so here are some I downloaded this morning that show there is a lot of work to do.

[Wapiti]

And some dogs, traditional, black, and mixed colours. Protected in the state with the banned machetes apparently, but not here. The discovery that there are pups too is concerning.

[Wapiti]

Anybody got any surprises on their trail cams lately?

[Baronvonrort]

Looks like you found a trail the dogs are using in the morning

[Zach]

Does pest control take up a lot of your time you'd rather spend doing something else?
My perspective is of course naive because I don't farm or manage a large property but this almost makes me wish I had land with feral populations to keep me busy.

[fussy]

Anybody got any surprises on their trail cams lately?

Well, the live feed showed a view from inside the mouth of something with large teeth, then the feed went blank.
Is that a bad thing?

[Maxy]

Well, the live feed showed a view from inside the mouth of something with large teeth, then the feed went blank.
Is that a bad thing?[/quote]
Probably. Any Hippo,s in the area???

[Wapiti]

Does pest control take up a lot of your time you'd rather spend doing something else?
My perspective is of course naive because I don't farm or manage a large property but this almost makes me wish I had land with feral populations to keep me busy.

Yes it does and there's never enough time. But there never will be.
There's always something breaking down, going wrong or some timeline to meet. The more you try to do, the more opportunities there are for good and bad. It's just the way it is. But I'm not complaining. I could be working with some city activist engineers again, trying to stop them destroying a project or alienating a complete work site like my game was before.

Hunting is relaxing. Pest shooting isn't. I guess it might seem wierd but like anything you have to do soon becomes a chore to allocate time to and fit in somewhere. Killing stuff that is just trying to exist, an issue caused by someone or something else, is not fun.

But nothing is stopping most people, just a mindset change. Instead of that house with the city bus stop out front, you could swap it for 6000 acres and a complete life change. That's what I did.

But I get a smile from looking at the pics, you never know what is there.. at the tiny pigs being trained by mum, the pups following their parents, the boar looking for a sow. All happening when we're doing something else.

[Wapiti]

Anybody got any surprises on their trail cams lately?

Well, the live feed showed a view from inside the mouth of something with large teeth, then the feed went blank.
Is that a bad thing?

I recently had one camera at a stand of ironbark at a fence section I call the 3-ways. The camera was being removed from the tree, which overlooked a bait spot. The strap was pulled through the clip without ruining it, and I'd find it laying in the open. Pics on it just showed blurry sky and clouds etc.
I kept swapping it out, till eventually it ended up disappearing completely, except for one battery on the ground a ways away. Never worked it out.
Prior to that starting to happen, I'd get pigs on the bait, then dogs checking it out, pigs arcing up on dogs, mexican stand-offs. Dogs never touched the bait but they'd always show up to check it out. Then something started playing games with the camera.
I'm not putting one up there any more.

[Die Judicii]

One of your LITTLE men Mate. Watching you watching them.

[Wapiti]

Mate it's scary enough up there by myself as it is....

[bigrich]

Anybody got any surprises on their trail cams lately?

Well, the live feed showed a view from inside the mouth of something with large teeth, then the feed went blank.
Is that a bad thing?

I recently had one camera at a stand of ironbark at a fence section I call the 3-ways. The camera was being removed from the tree, which overlooked a bait spot. The strap was pulled through the clip without ruining it, and I'd find it laying in the open. Pics on it just showed blurry sky and clouds etc.
I kept swapping it out, till eventually it ended up disappearing completely, except for one battery on the ground a ways away. Never worked it out.
Prior to that starting to happen, I'd get pigs on the bait, then dogs checking it out, pigs arcing up on dogs, mexican stand-offs. Dogs never touched the bait but they'd always show up to check it out. Then something started playing games with the camera.
I'm not putting one up there any more.

set up a camera to monitor the camera . might be a shifty neighbour playing silly buggers , or maybe it IS the small hairy man

[Wapiti]

Pretty cheeky then, eh? When the camera is triggered when being messed with, whoevers doing it is staying off to one side!

Cattle are notoriously cheeky in that they spot anything different and set out to see if it's bugger-proof, but there isn't any stock in there and it's a pretty wild paddock.

[bigrich]

Pretty cheeky then, eh? When the camera is triggered when being messed with, whoevers doing it is staying off to one side!

Cattle are notoriously cheeky in that they spot anything different and set out to see if it's bugger-proof, but there isn't any stock in there and it's a pretty wild paddock.

it'd definitely get my attention . i'd have to solve the mystery i'd try it mate, put the camera back up , then set up another camera to watch that one where it can't be messed with . my trip to the property up the road from you was frustrating . had big cunning boars playing hide and seek in scrub with me , came across some massive fresh excavations around tree roots from one boar , i'd post them if my iphone would play ball with the website . to walk into the valley he lives in is over a steep ridge , it'd damn near kill me walking it , and he's learnt to bugger off when he hears a motor . i'll get him eventually
saw a herd of 6-7 fallow (i think) at about 200 meters , wind in my favour too . used a bit of scrub for cover to get a little closer , they were out of my sight for 4 seconds, took another peek, and gone. disappeared . i've heard deer called "phantoms of the forest "

[Wapiti]

The hardest things I've ever stalked are grey kangaroos.
They are so switched on. Many a time I've been stalking deer, or looking for pigs, and these things have ruined my stalk. They are experts at ruining a stalk.
In a vehicle during the day they are suspicious enough, different story, but the human form on foot, they will not tolerate.

[bigrich]

The hardest things I've ever stalked are grey kangaroos.
They are so switched on. Many a time I've been stalking deer, or looking for pigs, and these things have ruined my stalk. They are experts at ruining a stalk.
In a vehicle during the day they are suspicious enough, different story, but the human form on foot, they will not tolerate.

yeah, the grays high tail it when i'm 800 meters or more in some paddocks when they see/hear my toyota. hoppers in general are a early warning system for ferals, i've found walking slow and stopping periodically doesn't upset the birds which are another give away . they probably think i'm a cow with a akubra on it's head
i utilise all the tricks , heel /toe walking, stepping on tufts of grass instead of gravel, avoiding stepping on sticks , wind direction, ect . if it was easy it wouldn't present a challenge
pisses me off when i'm somewhere that deer don't get shot at and no permission to hunt and they just stand there looking at me 70 meters away

[Die Judicii]

The hardest things I've ever stalked are grey kangaroos.
They are so switched on. Many a time I've been stalking deer, or looking for pigs, and these things have ruined my stalk. They are experts at ruining a stalk.
In a vehicle during the day they are suspicious enough, different story, but the human form on foot, they will not tolerate.

yeah, the grays high tail it when i'm 800 meters or more in some paddocks when they see/hear my toyota. hoppers in general are a early warning system for ferals, i've found walking slow and stopping periodically doesn't upset the birds which are another give away . they probably think i'm a cow with a akubra on it's head
i utilise all the tricks , heel /toe walking, stepping on tufts of grass instead of gravel, avoiding stepping on sticks , wind direction, ect . if it was easy it wouldn't present a challenge
pisses me off when i'm somewhere that deer don't get shot at and no permission to hunt and they just stand there looking at me 70 meters away

Roos are bloody good for me.
Because more often than not I'm already set up and patiently waiting without moving around.
The roos start grazing and I watch them.
If there's a dog or dogs coming through, the roos certainly sit up, and even if I can't yet see the dog, they stare intently at where it is.

[Wapiti]

Yes that's true too.
I was nearing a fence corner that ends on the public road along a creek crossing and saw some big roos running flat strap out of the rocky creek and up the road.
Both side of the road from the creek up starts an exclusion fence, on my side they cannot jump so they were forced up the road.
The roos were obviously panicked by how psycho they were bouncing off stuff when I saw what was causing it - a big dingo cross wild dog, up them full on.
Not the super precious, critically endangered, protect-at-all-costs ones from the CCP south of the NSW border, but an evil Qld one.
There's more to that story and it ended in what was basically a complete circus, nothing to do with me at least.

Some days you get up and the day is something no one could ever imagine.

[MG5150]

Does pest control take up a lot of your time you'd rather spend doing something else?
My perspective is of course naive because I don't farm or manage a large property but this almost makes me wish I had land with feral populations to keep me busy.

I'd buy a chicken farm just so I could shoot foxes

[MG5150]

Anybody got any surprises on their trail cams lately?

Well, the live feed showed a view from inside the mouth of something with large teeth, then the feed went blank.
Is that a bad thing?

I recently had one camera at a stand of ironbark at a fence section I call the 3-ways. The camera was being removed from the tree, which overlooked a bait spot. The strap was pulled through the clip without ruining it, and I'd find it laying in the open. Pics on it just showed blurry sky and clouds etc.
I kept swapping it out, till eventually it ended up disappearing completely, except for one battery on the ground a ways away. Never worked it out.
Prior to that starting to happen, I'd get pigs on the bait, then dogs checking it out, pigs arcing up on dogs, mexican stand-offs. Dogs never touched the bait but they'd always show up to check it out. Then something started playing games with the camera.
I'm not putting one up there any more.

You got to put a camera on the camera

[Wapiti]

If someone's looking for a camera, they will find it. And the one watching it. One can often mean two.
As I'm sure you hunters'd know, no matter what you do with a camera, or what shade of camo it is, or the strap standing out, and of course the camera shape being completely alien in nature, they stand out like a flashing light on a site vehicle.
I always spot them and see them all the time along the roads and over the boundary fencelines.
I've even found other c**ts cameras on my properties. They are not there when they come looking for them.

[Blr243]

I’m currently on a block in central qld. I been here before twice. A week or two both times. Saw tracks b4 but never seen pigs. This times different. Am seeing and shooting pigs every night

[Wapiti]

Game including pigs are everywhere right now. I'm just not managing the time to fix the issue.
Friday a neighbour brought over a mate who is an accredited shooter after more properties, but he was an amateur, can't use him. Too much risk to let a bloke run around shooting at night when he refuses to have his insurances in order. More to the point, any insurance. WhyTF is everyone trying to do everything on the cheap and at someone elses responsibility?
When you have a couple of businesses rolled into one another, you cannot risk an uninsured "contractor" running around doing what is (in legal terms) a high-risk high stakes pursuit. I thought I had some help for just a short few minutes. Doh.

[Die Judicii]

Game including pigs are everywhere right now. I'm just not managing the time to fix the issue.
Friday a neighbour brought over a mate who is an accredited shooter after more properties, but he was an amateur, can't use him. Too much risk to let a bloke run around shooting at night when he refuses to have his insurances in order. More to the point, any insurance. WhyTF is everyone trying to do everything on the cheap and at someone elses responsibility?
When you have a couple of businesses rolled into one another, you cannot risk an uninsured "contractor" running around doing what is (in legal terms) a high-risk high stakes pursuit. I thought I had some help for just a short few minutes. Doh.

So I must be the odd one out,,,, I've got 3 seperate policies covering me, my equipment, and wherever I shoot.

[wrenchman]

I had some one break into my shed on my property and stole some of my hunting equipment so I have moved my trail cams around and I am getting less pictures of animals.
it was noting expensive and if some one asked I would give it.
a pop up blind a heater a chair for the blind and a pick ax only the pick ax really bothered me it was my grandfathers.

[Wapiti]

Game including pigs are everywhere right now. I'm just not managing the time to fix the issue.
Friday a neighbour brought over a mate who is an accredited shooter after more properties, but he was an amateur, can't use him. Too much risk to let a bloke run around shooting at night when he refuses to have his insurances in order. More to the point, any insurance. WhyTF is everyone trying to do everything on the cheap and at someone elses responsibility?
When you have a couple of businesses rolled into one another, you cannot risk an uninsured "contractor" running around doing what is (in legal terms) a high-risk high stakes pursuit. I thought I had some help for just a short few minutes. Doh.

So I must be the odd one out,,,, I've got 3 seperate policies covering me, my equipment, and wherever I shoot.

You are then mate, but then you take your work seriously.
Not too many do, most say they are "pros", but always are looking for some responsibility or cost to avoid and always have an excuse.
Usually that excuse is "that's dumb, I'm not paying to protect you from my incompetence "
I think this litgatious society is getting out of hand too, but respecting others and not subjecting others to risks you cause is not professional at all.

A mate down the roads got the right set up... he's got 3 boys and they are all firearms and hunting crazy, and more than take care of the families' feral animals dramas on the farm. But they're bloody busy at the moment with the last 5 good seasons here.

[MG5150]

Game including pigs are everywhere right now. I'm just not managing the time to fix the issue.
Friday a neighbour brought over a mate who is an accredited shooter after more properties, but he was an amateur, can't use him. Too much risk to let a bloke run around shooting at night when he refuses to have his insurances in order. More to the point, any insurance. WhyTF is everyone trying to do everything on the cheap and at someone elses responsibility?
When you have a couple of businesses rolled into one another, you cannot risk an uninsured "contractor" running around doing what is (in legal terms) a high-risk high stakes pursuit. I thought I had some help for just a short few minutes. Doh.

So I must be the odd one out,,,, I've got 3 seperate policies covering me, my equipment, and wherever I shoot.

You are then mate, but then you take your work seriously.
Not too many do, most say they are "pros", but always are looking for some responsibility or cost to avoid and always have an excuse.
Usually that excuse is "that's dumb, I'm not paying to protect you from my incompetence "
I think this litgatious society is getting out of hand too, but respecting others and not subjecting others to risks you cause is not professional at all.

A mate down the roads got the right set up... he's got 3 boys and they are all firearms and hunting crazy, and more than take care of the families' feral animals dramas on the farm. But they're bloody busy at the moment with the last 5 good seasons here.

Aren't both SSAA and ADA members covered by $20 million public liability insurance?

[Wapiti]

No, the landowner of the place they hunt on is not indemnified against an accident caused by the visitor by the SSAA insurance policy.
I have personally contacted SSAA Insurance brokers and have been told that additional policies are required by the landowner specifically in relation to leisure purposes.
I contacted them to specifically ask about risks to us from visitors legally permitted on for leisure purposes.
Don't believe me? Call them yourself and find out, it's free.

Our $20mil 3rd party policy in our farm business insurance does not cover us here either, in fact our WFI rep specifically warned us that none of them cover campers, shooters or anyone other than ABN holding contractors, who are required to have their own insurance and work cover.

Yes, it's f**ked, but as many landowners have found out in court, being a nice guy doesn't get reciprocated when sh*t happens.

[MG5150]

No, the landowner of the place they hunt on is not indemnified against an accident caused by the visitor by the SSAA insurance policy.
I have personally contacted SSAA Insurance brokers and have been told that additional policies are required by the landowner specifically in relation to leisure purposes.
I contacted them to specifically ask about risks to us from visitors legally permitted on for leisure purposes.
Don't believe me? Call them yourself and find out, it's free.

Our $20mil 3rd party policy in our farm business insurance does not cover us here either, in fact our WFI rep specifically warned us that none of them cover campers, shooters or anyone other than ABN holding contractors, who are required to have their own insurance and work cover.

Yes, it's f**ked, but as many landowners have found out in court, being a nice guy doesn't get reciprocated when sh*t happens.

Is that a QLD thing? I've heard Clark McGhie mention that they had to stop their annual deer ballot due to the insurance issues

[Wapiti]

Sorry for the late reply.
As I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong) Mr McGhie is doing what he does as his income. Yeah, I guess "QDMS" is his description of it.
He can indeed get insurance for the hunters and his business collecting money for the privilege of hunting, let me just say that I know all about it. I can only guess that he is seeing the cost as something he is not willing to accept.
In fact we are in the process of organising this for another reason, venison for paddock-to-plate supplying. The policy for the accredited pro-shooter for the "wild caught" product to indemnify us from any screw-ups he might make is about $2K/year at present.