Australian 2nd Amendment

[womble]

I’ve never claimed Australia has free speech. In fact I’ve lobbied for it. New Zealand got it relatively recently so we can do the same.

What is it that NZ got relatively recently that Australia doesn't have?

Free speech. High Court decision.

[No1_49er]

Womble, your answer tells us NOTHING.
As you would have us believe that you are so knowledgeable on the subject, perhaps you'd be good enough to quote a case number, date, or title?

[womble]

Womble, your answer tells us NOTHING.
As you would have us believe that you are so knowledgeable on the subject, perhaps you'd be good enough to quote a case number, date, or title?

There's not that much to know.
14. Freedom of expression.
They have many civil rights that we do not.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0109/latest/DLM224792.html

[womble]

Right to life number 8
That's self defence by any means necessary.

We don't get that.
Our right not to be deprived of life specifically only applies to government agencies not being able to deprive you of life.

[womble]

Freedom of association.
Freedom of assembly.

Others we don't get.
Not a lot of civil rights here. Very conservative country. Always has been.
Whitlam was progressive. We had a good run for a while.

[No1Mk3]

Freedom of association.
Freedom of assembly.

Others we don't get.
Not a lot of civil rights here. Very conservative country. Always has been.
Whitlam was progressive. We had a good run for a while.

Neither Freedom of Association nor Freedom of Assembly exist in Victoria with the coming into Law of the Criminal Organization Control Amerndment Act 2024 which enables any Police Officer of Sgt rank or above to declare any organization as Criminal. No Freedom of Expression either as the new Act allows for the prohibition of any badge or sign of the decalred organization to be displayed in Public with fines in the $1000's. Whilst intended to attack Outlaw M/C's it has been used to inhibit any club with a back patch including Veterans and Christian Clubs. Whose next? Hunting Clubs?

[No1_49er]

Right to life number 8
That's self defence by any means necessary.

We don't get that.
Our right not to be deprived of life specifically only applies to government agencies not being able to deprive you of life.

I wonder how their "rights" were upheld by the tyrant Ardern who decreed that 10 and 11 weren't worth the paper it was written on during the plandemic.
Yeah, that worked out pretty good for them.
"Rights" can be very quickly be trodden on irrespective of how well intentioned they might appear to be.

[womble]

Dunno I’m not from New Zealand.
Probably declared a state of emergency like the other countries.

[womble]

First case New Zealand feb 2020. That’s early. Looks like a chinaman must have visited.
So they would have copped the delta wave.
Whatever they did they came through pretty well, relatively.
They had vaccines within the year, early feb 2021.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand

[Wapiti]

I never fail to be surprised by people who are so opinionated, being so naive and ill informed. And sharing their BS.
Anyone with any exposure to what really happened here (first-hand health system, not political scheming) knows this was all a lie, at best complete incompetence.
Vaccines did not stop transmission, or deaths. What they did do though, was put otherwise fit people into hospital for life-changing health issues that they will never get over. Despite all the attempts to hide and silence these facts, we are still subjected to yes-men dribbling the lies.
Search YouTube for the "theory of stupidity" and who belongs to that ever-broadening club.

[mchughcb]

I never fail to be surprised by people who are so opinionated, being so naive and ill informed. And sharing their BS.
Anyone with any exposure to what really happened here (first-hand health system, not political scheming) knows this was all a lie, at best complete incompetence.
Vaccines did not stop transmission, or deaths. What they did do though, was put otherwise fit people into hospital for life-changing health issues that they will never get over. Despite all the attempts to hide and silence these facts, we are still subjected to yes-men dribbling the lies.
Search YouTube for the "theory of stupidity" and who belongs to that ever-broadening club.

Amen to that. Where's OB must be on his 20th booster by now.

[womble]

I never fail to be surprised by people who are so opinionated, being so naive and ill informed. And sharing their BS.
Anyone with any exposure to what really happened here (first-hand health system, not political scheming) knows this was all a lie, at best complete incompetence.
Vaccines did not stop transmission, or deaths. What they did do though, was put otherwise fit people into hospital for life-changing health issues that they will never get over. Despite all the attempts to hide and silence these facts, we are still subjected to yes-men dribbling the lies.
Search YouTube for the "theory of stupidity" and who belongs to that ever-broadening club.

How did you even land a job in nursing without any high school.
Immunity to a cold virus. It dose’nt exist.
Where’s our hundreds of thousands of deaths in Australia. Never happened here.
97 percent vaccination rate.
That’s 97 percent of our population producing antibodies before it even got a chance to spread here.

[straightshooter]

I've seen some pretty common sentiment here on this topic, so I'll try and break the boredom by putting up a video of a bloke who might just give some of you some direction on where to look in politics for a solution.
I won't preach who, or what, but this video is very much listening to and a good insight into where to put your sentiment and votes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU1XRJeJHHw&t=85s
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwqiucMP59Y

I never cease to be amazed by these sorts of posts as well as many of the general comments that may follow.
Brings to mind the the famous words from Blazing Saddles "Ahh Blow It Out Your Ass Howard".
Please try to understand, irrespective of what you may have been conditioned to believe by Hollywood, we in the various states in Australia are still subjects of the Crown as has been vested directly in the successor states to the former colonies.
That the states have federated so we can proudly call ourselves Australians changes nothing.
As a subject you do not have "rights". However you may enjoy privileges that can be withdrawn or granted by the crown.
A "right" cannot be granted or withdrawn at the stroke of a pen as can be done with a privilege.
Many are confounded by the US bill of rights. It does not grant rights it merely identifies some rights that are inherent and inalienable to mankind.
No such thing exists in Australia and I doubt it ever will.
Beware of politicians whose political prospects depend on telling the voters they are chasing what those voters want to hear.
End of rant.

[womble]

Straightshooter "it merely identifies some rights that are inherent and inalienable to mankind."

That's the crux of it.
Your creator gifted you these rights.
All we want in Australia is government recognition.
To be recognised as citizens, not subjects.

No Australian citizen should ever have to be dragged before the courts to decide if he had the right to life.
But protect your life and that's what will happen. The courts will decide.