Charlie Kirk Rifle

[Baronvonrort]

The story I saw was that the projectile may have clipped the top edge of his vest and deflected up into the poor buggers neck.

But then, there are people saying he wasn't wearing a vest. What I saw showed a definite outline.
Then people would say that a .30 wouldn't be stopped by a soft low-profile vest anyway.
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Video shows it did hit top of vest then deflected into his neck.

The huge problem with every other theory is they do not explain what caused his t shirt to suddenly move like that we can't pretend that never happened because it did.

I did see TPUSA say Charlies wife always inisisted he wear armour they said his favourite on was nicknamed stealth didn't save that.report.

I agree soft low profile vest wouldn't stop 30-06 not even close to doing it.

Many are saying there is no armour that can be concealed that will stop the 30-06 it's too bulky it doesn't exist if you look at the military guy in youtube link i provided previously he shows you a Titanium plate that will work and also mentions it doesn't stop it fragmenting.

Here is a Thesis from 2018 for Titanium composite armour to stop AK47 at muzzle velocity. AK47 has around 2400 fps at muzzle this shot wasn't muzzle it was 143 yards all the Hornady factory ammo lists velocity at 100 yards around 2700.
It is a Thesis yet he did test firing with AK at muzzle into various plates to see what happened.results are published
Did a 3mm Titanium composite plate stop AK round at muzzle?

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD1060002.pdf

[straightshooter]

Everything depends on what internet slop is dished up by their personally trained algorithm to individuals as to what their opinion might be at any given moment.
As for the magic titanium breastplate.
If the shot was fired from the roof top as is claimed then the bullet strike on the breastplate would be at such an angle where there would not be a ricochet, further, deformation in the breastplate would limit the direction of flight of any fragmentation if it was any kind of frangible projectile.
Kirk's jerking reaction to the shot seemed to be consistent with the spinal cord being severely damaged.
Hopefully things will be clearer after an unredacted autopsy and more 'official' information is released.

[Baronvonrort]

Everything depends on what internet slop is dished up by their personally trained algorithm to individuals as to what their opinion might be at any given moment.

Hopefully things will be clearer after an unredacted autopsy and more 'official' information is released.

I see Kash Patel getting a lot of criticism for not releasing information on this murder which i think shows ignorance with these people.

The FBI ATF and local law enforcement give what they have to the DOJ who handles the prosecution case.

I am not aware of any murders where suspect is awaiting trial where any detailed information about it has been released we find this stuff out when it's presented in court then reported in the media.

They still have to select a jury for this if Kash released stuff he would then be accused of jeopardising the trial this is really a no win situation for him.

[MG5150]

A new video has come out and suggests that he was shot in the back of the head/neck and it's come out the front suggesting the shooter was positioned in a different place to the alleged killer they caught.

https://youtu.be/MbaQadkqkzI?si=SGvbiCkANuVaU6HY

My first though upon seeing the front-on footage was "that looks like an exit wound due to the size" but the FBI and media are running with this Tyler bloke.

[bad cop 3650]

You really are quite deranged. I hope you get the help you need. Sincerely.
Go back on your medication before you f*** up your life.

Thanks for the advice ! Im a very sane person, but the same cannot be said for you.

For the past 5 years since i discoreved this forum i have been very appaled to see these so called gun owner also know as "fudds" speaking on my behalf claiming to know everything better than me while at the same time solding off our rights to anti gunner in every manner possible, like you in fact.

Thanks for throwing us under the bus, you are not leaving a great legacy to the younger generations of gun owner, not just here in Australia but everywhere else.

Mate, you are literally stalking someone on an internet forum. Think about what you are doing.
You are not well. Get well. No judgement.
The reason I haven’t exposed your third account is so you can save face and join the rest of us in enjoying the forum.
And sometimes you forget to switch accounts mid thread so I won’t be the only ones who’s noticing. Pull yourself up and have a fresh start.

it is not about stalking, it is about calling you out, i don't like threasonous sc*m who's are claiming to be the best reprensentation of a certain group of peoples while in fact they are the complete opposite and are doing more harm than good to the community they claim to represent.

the fact that you support gun control does not make you a more rational person, in fact by supporting gun control like you do, especially in a public place like this, which can be seen by everyone, especially the anti gun lobby who's in turn can use opinions and thoughts like yours to push for more gun control, that is a fact, and you know it, and because of this, this does reduce any form of progress for the guns community as a whole, as this bar us for having more relaxed and permissive gun laws.

i don't have a third account, but i wouldn't try to be a smartass if i was you, because i suspect that you have mutliples accounts.

[Baronvonrort]

A new video has come out and suggests that he was shot in the back of the head/neck and it's come out the front suggesting the shooter was positioned in a different place to the alleged killer they caught.

https://youtu.be/MbaQadkqkzI?si=SGvbiCkANuVaU6HY

My first though upon seeing the front-on footage was "that looks like an exit wound due to the size" but the FBI and media are running with this Tyler bloke.

Here is a video showing the same thing in your youtube video without editing his shirt out you might have to login to X to see.
https://x.com/betsyowens73/status/1966270842037539114

The big problems with this new youtube video is they don't show his shirt which moves before what i think is spall appearing behind his right ear and not an entrance wound.
His arms are down it doesn't explain why chest moves like that if neck blood showed exit wound.
The sudden movement from his chest happens before what i think is spall appearing behind right ear.

From the earlier youtube vid from coldstart the content creator claimed official story is Tyler pulled the rifle apart put it in his backpack changed clothes ran across the roof and how did he put gun back together without screwdriver that was still on the roof

The suspect walks with very little bending in his right leg – consistent with a rifle being hidden in his pants. This unusual gait continues until the suspect is seen crossing the railing off the open walkway and onto the roof, where he leaves the camera’s view.

A camera later captures the suspect as he runs across the roof to the suspected shooting position. Immediately after the shot was fired, a camera captures the suspect running across the roof carrying an item whose shape is consistent with a rifle. The suspect is then seen climbing down from the roof. He appears to drop the item he was carrying as he hits the ground in a controlled fall. He then picks up the item and runs toward the northeast end of campus

Law enforcement officers followed the suspect’s escape path to the northeast end of campus, where they believed the suspect left campus and entered a wooded area. In that wooded area, investigators found a bolt-action rifle wrapped in a towel. The rifle contained one spent round and three unspent rounds. This is consistent with the facts officers observed at the time of,and immediately after the shooting—no shell casings were found on the roof, suggesting abolt-action rather than an auto-loading weapon, and only a single round was fired

The rifle, ammunition rounds, and towel were sent for forensic processing. DNA consistent with Robinson’s was found on the trigger, other parts of the rifle, the fired cartridge casing, two of the three unfired cartridges, and the towel.

On the evening of September 11, 2025, as law enforcement continued their investigation,Tyler James Robinson, went to the Washington County Sheriff’s Office with his parents and a family friend to turn himself in.Robinson’s mother stated the following to police. On September 11, 2025, the day afterthe shooting, Robinson’s mother saw the photo of the shooter in the news and thought the shooter looked like her son. Robinson’s mother called her son and asked him where he was. He said he was at home sick and that he had also been at home sick on September 10th. Robinson’s mother expressed concern to her husband that the suspected shooter looked like Robinson. Robinson’s father agreed

Robinson’s father reported that when his wife showed him the surveillance image of the suspected shooter in the news, he agreed that it looked like their son. He also believed that the rifle that police suspected the shooter used matched a rifle that was given to his son as a gift. As a result, Robinson’s father contacted his son and asked him to send a photo of the rifle. Robinson did not respond. However, Robinson’s father spoke on the phone with Robinson. Robinson implied that he planned to take his own life. Robinson’s parents were able to convince him to meet at their home

As they discussed the situation, Robinson implied that he was the shooter and stated that he couldn’t go to jail and just wanted to end it.

Police executed a search warrant on Robinson’s residence. During that search, police discovered a shell casing with etchings like the etchings found on the shells in the rifle nearUVU.

Link to official story here posted above in court document here-https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/16/charlie-kirk-shooter-charged

His parents recognised him from pics his dad asked him to send a pic of that gun which he didn't do.

He surrendered to Police with his parents

[womble]

I’m not seeing the titanium plate. It think it would be odd to wear that alone under a t shirt.
I’m just seeing the energy of the impact striking at a downward angle.
I don’t believe it’s an exit wound. The actual video of the event is out there if you look for it. Not advisable. But it’s pretty obvious what happened.
At least he went quickly. Would have lost consciousness almost instantly with that blood loss.
Agree with his ideals or not , he was respected for engaging in debate and genuinely wanted a better America. Not a fitting end for him.

[Wapiti]

Who stated a titanium plate here?
The kooks have come out of the woodwork everywhere editing and perverting and coming up with all the usual conspiracy theories about the arrested shooter being some kind of fallguy.
Kimmel wasn't expressing free speech, he is a self-important narcissist who immediately started one of these conspiracies by trying to warp the facts again, as the sick Democrat fan boys will do.
Charlie Kirk was one of those amazing selfless people who set out to inform and inspire, no matter what political bent or uninformed attacks he was being faced with. Any other description from anyone else, particularly from people who do nothing but dribble and slob in front of a screen should be taken note of - it is these people amongst us who are the real enemies. Deliberate and always waiting to bite from behind like the Chihuahua, but run yelping from frontal facts.

[Baronvonrort]

Who stated a titanium plate here?
The kooks have come out of the woodwork everywhere editing and perverting and coming up with all the usual conspiracy theories about the arrested shooter being some kind of fallguy.
Kimmel wasn't expressing free speech, he is a self-important narcissist who immediately started one of these conspiracies by trying to warp the facts again, as the sick Democrat fan boys will do.
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I started the Titanium composite plate armour plate here.

I would say 99.9999% of shooters claim they don't exist it's BS.
All it takes is one person to produce one and show it to prove they do exist which means those 99.9999% who say they don't exist are wrong.

This ex military sniper shows an off the shelf not custom made Titanium composite plate on video he also explains they don't stop fragments or spall which is why he doesn't like them they need additional Kevlar to catch the fragments which could kill or injure you.

You can skip intro on Charlie if time limited start around 3min 20 the last 1-2 minutes don't say much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6zPjo5Vogc

[womble]

It's a good theory.
I just think the energy of the hit makes I look like his t shirt lifts.

[Wapiti]

From having access to lots of exotic steels and shooting at them... and basically being a scab and not wanting to buy bisalloy 400 targets (500 too brittle, everyone's got it wrong), there's no way I'd be using a 12mm Ti plate against FMJ 7.62 in a million years. It's crap. You would be dead.
If someone used a piece of 10mm Bis 400, even 500, and shaped it to your chest with a rolled/folded (outward and slightly down) 100 degree return of say, 25mm, it would stop any spalling dead. Absolutely 100%.
Ti is about 40% lighter than steel, but no way is it as tough as specialisedtoughened impact steel. If I'm still getting my maths right, if a similar sized 600gram Ti plate would be a 1kg steel plate in the same dimensions?
Cover it in a kevlar mat to slow and hold the rest of the fragments, slip it into a suitable carrier and you would not get a 300 Win Mag through it.
For all the slight extra weight over the silly floor tiles all the dreamers are playing with, if any, better them than me.
Lighter is deader.

[straightshooter]

I see Kash Patel getting a lot of criticism for not releasing information on this murder which i think shows ignorance with these people.
The FBI ATF and local law enforcement give what they have to the DOJ who handles the prosecution case.
I am not aware of any murders where suspect is awaiting trial where any detailed information about it has been released we find this stuff out when it's presented in court then reported in the media.
They still have to select a jury for this if Kash released stuff he would then be accused of jeopardising the trial this is really a no win situation for him.

The "suspect" has already been convicted in the court of public opinion due to saturation coverage in media.
Think about it.
That allied with the propensity of US prosecutors to suppress exculpatory evidence in high profile cases means the average "Boobus Americanus" (thankyou H.L.Menken) likely to be selected for the jury will doubtless find the "suspect" guilty.

[Larry]

Personally I think 6mm 500 bis that is angled like shown on the vid would deflect and disform the bullet upwards slowing it only slightly but with the deformation may not exit the upper neck or head. The amount of blood in the chunks that came out was much more than than the entry wound would have been from a direct hit and there would have been a huge exit wound very close in elevation to the entry wound despite shooting downhill and from a slightly elevated position.

[Wapiti]

I see Kash Patel getting a lot of criticism for not releasing information on this murder which i think shows ignorance with these people.
The FBI ATF and local law enforcement give what they have to the DOJ who handles the prosecution case.
I am not aware of any murders where suspect is awaiting trial where any detailed information about it has been released we find this stuff out when it's presented in court then reported in the media.
They still have to select a jury for this if Kash released stuff he would then be accused of jeopardising the trial this is really a no win situation for him.

The "suspect" has already been convicted in the court of public opinion due to saturation coverage in media.
Think about it.
That allied with the propensity of US prosecutors to suppress exculpatory evidence in high profile cases means the average "Boobus Americanus" (thankyou H.L.Menken) likely to be selected for the jury will doubtless find the "suspect" guilty.

What are you trying to say? That the "suspect" in custody is just another fall guy?
C'mon, give up the conspiracy stuff.

I cannot ever believe, that when it comes to Charlie Kirk who was such a popular and loved figure for the conservatives, that the authorities would grab a suspect just for the purposes of being a fall guy to support the sick narrative of the left.
There's no way this is a political stunt. The act perpetrated by the alleged mentally-ill pillow biter lover was, however.