Sydney mass shooting

[alexjones]

a mate told me of a major import stuff up back in the day. there was a batch of sks that made it into the country with "select fire" lever on the action . bet none of those got handed in

In 1994 when america had their weapons ban colt sent 4000 auto ARs to Australia but they were mistakenly marked as semi auto and released by customs to the dealers. Not many were handed in. Who knows what floor board they are under. I always remember reading about that.

[wanneroo]

I can’t find the footage on line but he definitely had a semi auto. But it was shown on the news on the idiot box.
And it did sound 30cal.
He was plugging moving cars 3 or 4 hits.

This is the bloke. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-06/alleged-croydon-park-sydney-inner-west-shooter-charged/105859136

This is super weird. He’s just some random happy old grandpa . Train driver. No history or links to anything.
This is MK ultra level weird.
No firearms licence or history and suddenly a 30 cal semi auto just pops into his hands and he starts shooting at the public.

Train drivers do have to undergo psychological assessments

And now you already have pretty much all corporate media treating it like old news. Just going to go quiet so we all forget about it and move on.

This is some weird ass sh1t.

This bloke is a sleeper. He got programmed, who knows when or where. And then 2 days ago something switched him on.

And the time frame when this was actually occurring. Basically hoddle street 2.0, like Australia’s worst nightmare.
Where’s the media then. Where’s the live on scene and constant updates on every channel.

And this is the first time ever they haven’t used “high power assault rifle” and it literally was a 30 cal semi auto.
No mention of it.

I read some news articles on it, the whole thing sounds weird. These things don't happen in a vacuum.

It was pretty clear during Covid there are some malicious people on the march looking to impose totalitarian control on the people. All under the guise of "your safety", while increasingly controlling every aspect of your life. Australia is certainly not free.

[wanneroo]

Those QLD cops killed, The VIC cops shot dead. Now a so called random shooting spree in NSW. All 3 shootings I assumed used unregistered guns.

yup, but it's licensed gun owners who'll probably pay for it

100% man. It always is the lawful who pay the price. That's why I like Americas approach. They do not allow the innocent to pay the price for the actions of the wicked.

We shouldn't compare ourselves to America. The frequency of mass shootings there, especially in schools, clearly signals a need for change. But we're not the USA — we're Australia, and I'd like to think we handle these issues with more common sense. That said, it's the actions of a few reckless individuals that risk setting us back. The media will inevitably amplify fear among non-gun owners, pushing for sweeping changes. What we really need is a balanced response — one that shows we're responsible and capable of handling this issue without losing who we are.

This is a common issue with gun owners like yourself in that you think if gun owners were 100% perfect, BIGGOVMEDIA would stop coming after them.

At some point, probably too late, you'll realize that it doesn't matter how perfect you are, BIGGOVMEDIA wants your guns. And as you have seen over 30 years has all these restrictive laws and gun grabs stopped them from coming after more guns? No. They want your guns and want to control every aspect of your life.

In the USA, as long as you stay out of democratic party areas, most of it is safer than Australia and with less property crime. And yes there are some deaths that turn up in the stats, but they are often from defensive shootings, which in the end save the taxpayers money.

You don't need a "balanced response" because those people don't care. They just see you as a weak man. Republicans in the USA had to learn democrats don't respect "After You Claude". They are mean, angry people that want totalitarian government and to turn everything into a dump. You have to get a movement going that strongly advocates for your rights, one of which is you have the right to not be homicided by criminals or the government.

[womble]

We do have the right not to be homicided by the government in state charters for civil rights. Wording to the effect of gov can’t deprive you of life.
However that only applies to the government. Not civilians.
They won’t extend it to civilians because they don’t want people defending themselves from criminals.

We are fighting for it, in three states currently. But we just can’t majority vote. Missed it by one vote in VIC last attempt. But it’s not over.
And it’s not going away.
It’s a ridiculous situation because crime is of the charts here. Highest on record. And the crooks are high on meth so they really are quite dangerous and unpredictable.
I had an attempt at my place recently. With someone trying to scale the fence to get to the rear of my property. But I have three large dogs in there.
I couldn’t find a blood trail and i got a free ladder. It’s a nice ladder too. I’m very happy with it.
I’ve also had a neighbour recently show me camera footage of 4 armed men in his home while he was away. It’s just nuts around here.
You have to be extra vigilant extra careful. You just don’t know what to expect.

[bigrich]

We do have the right not to be homicided by the government in state charters for civil rights. Wording to the effect of gov can’t deprive you of life.
However that only applies to the government. Not civilians.
They won’t extend it to civilians because they don’t want people defending themselves from criminals.

We are fighting for it, in three states currently. But we just can’t majority vote. Missed it by one vote in VIC last attempt. But it’s not over.
And it’s not going away.
It’s a ridiculous situation because crime is of the charts here. Highest on record. And the crooks are high on meth so they really are quite dangerous and unpredictable.
I had an attempt at my place recently. With someone trying to scale the fence to get to the rear of my property. But I have three large dogs in there.
I couldn’t find a blood trail and i got a free ladder. It’s a nice ladder too. I’m very happy with it.
I’ve also had a neighbour recently show me camera footage of 4 armed men in his home while he was away. It’s just nuts around here.
You have to be extra vigilant extra careful. You just don’t know what to expect.

unfortunately i think things are going to get a lot worse before the general public and MSM wake up to it . if ever....

[Stoney]

The gun was semi auto and unregistered. That's why the media dropped the subject like a hot potato. Australia 's GOLD STANDARD firearms laws ensured that it was surrendered in 1996 didn't they?

[alexjones]

I guess cause nobody died it was an easy story to drop.

[womble]

There's another reason they might have dropped it.
Inspires other loonies at breaking point to pop off.

Still weird though.
Let's assume Gramps found an m16 and case of ammo under the floor boards.

Hundreds of shots fired over a 2 hour period.
From his 2nd story window. Built up high traffic area. Pedestrian also with shops below the window. Target rich environment.
Hits one person.

Either he learnt how to shoot at the police academy.
Or someone did a really bad job sighting in that m16

[Baronvonrort]

The gun was semi auto and unregistered. That's why the media dropped the subject like a hot potato. Australia 's GOLD STANDARD firearms laws ensured that it was surrendered in 1996 didn't they?

Dailymail reports it was M1 Carbine his license expired in 1992 he didn't hand it in with compensated confiscation in 1996.

They also found a suicide note. Being suicidal is 2nd worst case scenario for mental health being suicidal and homicidal is the worst case scenario for mental health.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15169605/Croydon-Park-Sydney-Artemios-Mintzas.html

[Billo]

The gun was semi auto and unregistered. That's why the media dropped the subject like a hot potato. Australia 's GOLD STANDARD firearms laws ensured that it was surrendered in 1996 didn't they?

Dailymail reports it was M1 Carbine his license expired in 1992 he didn't hand it in with compensated confiscation in 1996.

They also found a suicide note. Being suicidal is 2nd worst case scenario for mental health being suicidal and homicidal is the worst case scenario for mental health.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15169605/Croydon-Park-Sydney-Artemios-Mintzas.html

So it would appear this guy suffered some sort of mental breakdown and wanted to end his life, just glad more lives werent lost.

[womble]

I don’t think any lives have been lost. Yet. One in hospital.

Claims he can’t remember a thing.
7 news so make what you will of that. I mean, it’s a point three caliber rifle. Ok.

But interesting new footage. Police standing in the open looking around the sky. One exiting a vehicle trying to figure out how to use a ballistic shield.
First vehicles on scene. Most take cover but not Charlie. Charlie is a bit special. Look at him go. Where are you going Charlie.
But I think the fat detective entering through a side gate is my favourite.

https://youtu.be/BWnEiG1VMN8?si=4lv0-wTd-yctLxzb

[bigrich]

I don’t think any lives have been lost. Yet. One in hospital.

Claims he can’t remember a thing.
7 news so make what you will of that. I mean, it’s a point three caliber rifle. Ok.

But interesting new footage. Police standing in the open looking around the sky. One exiting a vehicle trying to figure out how to use a ballistic shield.
First vehicles on scene. Most take cover but not Charlie. Charlie is a bit special. Look at him go. Where are you going Charlie.
But I think the fat detective entering through a side gate is my favourite.

https://youtu.be/BWnEiG1VMN8?si=4lv0-wTd-yctLxzb

thanks for the link . did look a little like the keystone cops for sure the shooter looks like the original "uncle fester". i shouldn't joke , but he does

[fussy]

Narrative: Even stable, boring old coots with NO record (Like us) can no longer be trusted with guns....

[bad cop 3650]

Those QLD cops killed, The VIC cops shot dead. Now a so called random shooting spree in NSW. All 3 shootings I assumed used unregistered guns.

yup, but it's licensed gun owners who'll probably pay for it

100% man. It always is the lawful who pay the price. That's why I like Americas approach. They do not allow the innocent to pay the price for the actions of the wicked.

We shouldn't compare ourselves to America. The frequency of mass shootings there, especially in schools, clearly signals a need for change. But we're not the USA — we're Australia, and I'd like to think we handle these issues with more common sense. That said, it's the actions of a few reckless individuals that risk setting us back. The media will inevitably amplify fear among non-gun owners, pushing for sweeping changes. What we really need is a balanced response — one that shows we're responsible and capable of handling this issue without losing who we are.

Oh look we have one more threasonous scum claiming to be an legitimate and "rational" gun owner, that is pushing for gun control and spreading anti-gun Propaganda...

Also since 1996 and the so called effective 1996 nfa, There was a little more than 30 mass shootings in Australia, also counting the one that have not been reported...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... _Australia

While USA is not Australia and vice versa, i should point out that as gun owners we should all support each others toward an common ground that is opposing any form of gun control instead of stabbing each others in the back like you do (Robin) by pushing for more gun control by using half-assed arguments like the schools or "think of the children" or many more gun control lobby talking points...

Schools shooting are rare in the US as are mass shootings in most places, in fact i believe that when it happen whether in the US or elsewhere doesnt really matter much to you or the gun control lobby, since the children are more used as simple arguments to push the usual gun control narrative than anything else.

Shame on you, and im honestly surprised you are still here and not banned for what you said in the past on this board, if only the admin would do their job...

[Wapiti]

Unfortunately, mate, we don't all agree and all opinions are what forums are about.
My interests and daily firearms use is quite different for most, so my opinions don't always gel with everyone. Maybe not much at all...

But I completely agree with your sentiment, we should as a whole, deny acceptance of ANY and ALL restrictions further, and in fact be pushing back a lot harder on all that is there now.

Anyone who has been successful in leadership or politics knows that to gain a little, you must push the line back further that it was before, not just hold it and/or give concessions.
And when the strong finally realise that the time for all of these attempts at trying to reason with those pushing these restrictions and socialist grabs are in fact pointless, and start just saying NO, f**k off, the brakes will have to come on. Anyone disagreeing with this hasn't ever negotiated on a high level before.
They are what, in describing our eventual demise, is termed death by 1000 cuts. Unfortunately it seems, not everyone has your courage and is ballsy enough to call out what goes against your beliefs, let alone stick by it.

But we are led by the self-interested and seem to love accepting the system that shuts out the opinions of those who are sick of being held in life to the standards of the weak.