Speculating on new firearms laws

[Yoda]

So I'm thinking were about to see a 10 limit on the number of firearms we can have. These second hand firearms will flood the market causing a crash in rifle prices. This will hurt gun shops selling new rifles. How do you think this will play out?

[womble]

Won’t be volunteering ideas.

How will it work out.
It won’t.
Terrorists don’t obey the laws.

I don’t think they’ll have much to discuss though. Already pre written.

[bigrich]

Won’t be volunteering ideas.

How will it work out.
It won’t.
Terrorists don’t obey the laws.

I don’t think they’ll have much to discuss though. Already pre written.

yup ,WA laws going national i reckon . crims and terrorists will still do what they do . i shoot competitions with some of mine . i currently own 6 , 3 are for comp purposes . having a rifle for the purposes of hunting might get complicated . guess we'll have to see what our fearless leader (albo) dreams up

[Darththorn]

A limit makes zero sense.

The only change should be ensuring they do their jobs with background checks.

A son being on the radar of ASIO should have been the biggest red flag there is but they didn’t do anything.

[bigrich]

qoute "unless your a farmer, if your not involved in agriculture , why do you need these massive weapons that put the public in danger and make life difficult and dangerous for NSW police" premier chris minns . sounds like big changes are on the way , trying to sell a firearm in a shrunken market flooded with firearms for sale doesn't sound good . this sux

[womble]

A limit makes zero sense.

The only change should be ensuring they do their jobs with background checks.

A son being on the radar of ASIO should have been the biggest red flag there is but they didn’t do anything.

Nice signature.

[Darththorn]

A limit makes zero sense.

The only change should be ensuring they do their jobs with background checks.

A son being on the radar of ASIO should have been the biggest red flag there is but they didn’t do anything.

Nice signature.

AR-15, MK5, MAC-10, paprika.

That's weird. I use that pantry a lot.

And the paprika not enough.

[Terraincognita]

I reckon Queensland might be a hold out on any massive changes that may be proposed. A massive decentralised state with more people outside of the capital city than in it and the LNP dependent on regional votes. Regional cities with big hunting cultures.

[Wapiti]

Howard is fronting a national cabinet meeting right now on strengthening Australia's gun laws. Today, 15-12-25.
This will be his big moment, The Voice failed, people cant afford electricity, food and getting health care, his anti-seminism and not being a strong leader means he has 15 people's blood on his hands, so he's going to be looking for salvation and someone else to blame.

Apparently they are all saying, Why does anyone in a city need 6 guns? Guns are no longer acceptable anywhere other than farmers and farming areas"

Maybe big talk, we'll see eh?
You blokes might soon find out that J.Howard will be forgotten as the PM that introduced all of the Laws that Labor had prepared in 1994-95.
It will be Labor again that instigate more restrictions.
They were written by Labor and handed to Howard on a plate in 96, and now they have WA and the laws there as a basis right now for the rest of the country.

Nah, nothin's gonna happen. It's all scare tactics to get more SU membership?

[Fester]

I think most of us knew a mass shooting will be the start of the end for us.

They imported so many of the hate-filled halfwits, and the marches gave them the support for a few to go the next step.

May as well just blame us LAFOs, who do nothing wrong.

They wheeled Little Johnny out to squeal tougher gun laws before the blood had even cooled, talk about dancing in the victims blood.
Walter Micak has also appeared, and if he is paid by appearances, the last few months must be boosting his Byron Bay lifestyle.
I sometimes wonder if the rumour is true about why he wasn't with his family at Port Arthur.

If he only owned 6 rifles, what's the new limit going to be, 4?

[alexjones]

As someone who owns nearly 50 guns over several licences this situation annoys me.


State police do not have access to Commonwealth agencies IE ASIO. All this does is push the national registry agenda.

[alexjones]

I reckon Queensland might be a hold out on any massive changes that may be proposed. A massive decentralised state with more people outside of the capital city than in it and the LNP dependent on regional votes. Regional cities with big hunting cultures.

In 1996 QLD wanted to let sports shooters keep semi autos for sports use. QLD and WA both did not want to implement registries due to the cost.

Both were blackmailed by the Commonwealth that taxes would be withheld so they caved and they signed the NFA.

There were no holdouts in 1996 and there will be no holdouts now.

[womble]

I reckon Queensland might be a hold out on any massive changes that may be proposed. A massive decentralised state with more people outside of the capital city than in it and the LNP dependent on regional votes. Regional cities with big hunting cultures.

In 1996 QLD wanted to let sports shooters keep semi autos for sports use. QLD and WA both did not want to implement registries due to the cost.

Both were blackmailed by the Commonwealth that taxes would be withheld so they caved and they signed the NFA.

There were no holdouts in 1996 and there will be no holdouts now.

Correct.
Only one state was held by labor in 96 and it didn’t hold out.
Same difference.

No I idea why people here think or believe one party would be more favourable than the other with gun control.
Not how this country works. This isn’t America.

It’s the police that govern guns here. Always has been, even before Howard, since we were in chains.
And this will be police ministers once again advising the government on what to implement.
And the government will take their advice. Because this who the government uses for advice on such matters.
And the government will most certainly not ignore their advice and will implement what they suggest.

[womble]

Howard is fronting a national cabinet meeting right now on strengthening Australia's gun laws. Today, 15-12-25.
This will be his big moment, The Voice failed, people cant afford electricity, food and getting health care, his anti-seminism and not being a strong leader means he has 15 people's blood on his hands, so he's going to be looking for salvation and someone else to blame.

Apparently they are all saying, Why does anyone in a city need 6 guns? Guns are no longer acceptable anywhere other than farmers and farming areas"

Maybe big talk, we'll see eh?
You blokes might soon find out that J.Howard will be forgotten as the PM that introduced all of the Laws that Labor had prepared in 1994-95.
It will be Labor again that instigate more restrictions.
They were written by Labor and handed to Howard on a plate in 96, and now they have WA and the laws there as a basis right now for the rest of the country.

Nah, nothin's gonna happen. It's all scare tactics to get more SU membership?

We will never forget Howard’s dream being realised. You should read his biography sometime. Howard loathed Americas obsession with guns. Loathed Americans to be fair. He’s very scornful in his writings. He was determined that we never became like them.

You will never understand how that changed this country. People were very patriotic in a time when communism still existed and was a threat to our way of life.
And the government decided it couldn’t trust its own people. The very people who would only use their guns in anger to protect their country.
From that day forward we became a society of us and them. The government became our rulers.

Not the first time you’ve tried to gaslight our history. For whatever bizarre agenda you hold. Probably a pro lifer who hopes the LNP will ban abortion.

But we remember. We lived it. The police ministers convened and put together the NFA.
The single only body they outsourced for advice was the NRA , who at the time, was Americas new gun control advocacy.
Someone tried to shoot Reagan and they didn’t want black people taking up guns.

I know your comprehension skills are not great and I understand that.
But liberals hold a very different ideological position on firearms and self defence.
And our liberal party wanted that position for our nation.
And that is their pride.
Bipartisanship was just icing on the cake.

[wanneroo]

You guys will have to get involved politically and fight like hell or else you'll just get steam rolled.

[womble]

You guys will have to get involved politically and fight like hell or else you'll just get steam rolled.

This will weaken labor but they’ve assessed they would still hold majority. It will strengthen one nation.
This is labors third major ****** .
The voice failed but it didn’t hurt them because they were honouring a promise.
The social media ban is hurting them and they can’t as yet forecast how much.
But this is another nail. Big nail, maybe another 5% of the population.
They figure they can weather it.
But they’re out on a limb now. So it’s tenuous.

They have been a very disconnected government from overall public sentiment though. And people don’t like that here.
If you want to govern us you need to know us and understand how we live and the struggles we face.
So perhaps more tenuous than they yet realise.

[bigrich]

i just had a look at WA's gun laws as i think they are going to become our new standard . i think a lot of shooters who just "plink" occasionally on weekends will be legislated out of owning guns if the WA laws are anything to go by . auntie pauline looks set to push back , blaming people, not guns going by a interview with andrew bolt on sky . . and she blames albo creating the situation by not dealing with anti semitism and letting the pro palestinian protests run wild. importantly jewish leaders have said this also . changing gun laws is albo's way of deflecting his failure as a leader . have you ever seen politicians move so fast as they are with new gun laws . shame they don't move this fast when there's a bushfire or cyclone emergency

[Wapiti]

Howard is fronting a national cabinet meeting right now on strengthening Australia's gun laws. Today, 15-12-25.
This will be his big moment, The Voice failed, people cant afford electricity, food and getting health care, his anti-seminism and not being a strong leader means he has 15 people's blood on his hands, so he's going to be looking for salvation and someone else to blame.

Apparently they are all saying, Why does anyone in a city need 6 guns? Guns are no longer acceptable anywhere other than farmers and farming areas"

Maybe big talk, we'll see eh?
You blokes might soon find out that J.Howard will be forgotten as the PM that introduced all of the Laws that Labor had prepared in 1994-95.
It will be Labor again that instigate more restrictions.
They were written by Labor and handed to Howard on a plate in 96, and now they have WA and the laws there as a basis right now for the rest of the country.

Nah, nothin's gonna happen. It's all scare tactics to get more SU membership?

We will never forget Howard’s dream being realised. You should read his biography sometime. Howard loathed Americas obsession with guns. Loathed Americans to be fair. He’s very scornful in his writings. He was determined that we never became like them.

You will never understand how that changed this country. People were very patriotic in a time when communism still existed and was a threat to our way of life.
And the government decided it couldn’t trust its own people. The very people who would only use their guns in anger to protect their country.
From that day forward we became a society of us and them. The government became our rulers.

Not the first time you’ve tried to gaslight our history. For whatever bizarre agenda you hold. Probably a pro lifer who hopes the LNP will ban abortion.

But we remember. We lived it. The police ministers convened and put together the NFA.
The single only body they outsourced for advice was the NRA , who at the time, was Americas new gun control advocacy.
Someone tried to shoot Reagan and they didn’t want black people taking up guns.

I know your comprehension skills are not great and I understand that.
But liberals hold a very different ideological position on firearms and self defence.
And our liberal party wanted that position for our nation.
And that is their pride.
Bipartisanship was just icing on the cake.

Here, my friends, is why we are where we are.
The character of a true lounge lizard who talks but not does, with the psyche of a 13 year old.
Being a member of a forum on social media is so enlightening, if not tragic. Because it shows the character of the type of unachiever, a do-nothing wanna-be who directly affects the rest of us.

[Wapiti]

At least someone in politics is on our side, and knows where the problem lies.
It's no surprise why One Nation is surging in the polls, because the people have finally realised that they are being sold a pup on all levels but the "Duopoly".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjKzR5Y6l4I

If this happens to us, we will never get it back.
Everything in our country is collapsing around our ears with the Labor/Libs/Greens stranglehold on out complete way of life.

[Wapiti]

And another one for wobble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpDAwqxYDBU

[9.3x64]

i just had a look at WA's gun laws as i think they are going to become our new standard . i think a lot of shooters who just "plink" occasionally on weekends will be legislated out of owning guns if the WA laws are anything to go by .

Also people who just hunt. Hunting is not a genuine need without evidence as far as I understand.
Can anyone explain how it works in WA?

[womble]

Howard is fronting a national cabinet meeting right now on strengthening Australia's gun laws. Today, 15-12-25.
This will be his big moment, The Voice failed, people cant afford electricity, food and getting health care, his anti-seminism and not being a strong leader means he has 15 people's blood on his hands, so he's going to be looking for salvation and someone else to blame.

Apparently they are all saying, Why does anyone in a city need 6 guns? Guns are no longer acceptable anywhere other than farmers and farming areas"

Maybe big talk, we'll see eh?
You blokes might soon find out that J.Howard will be forgotten as the PM that introduced all of the Laws that Labor had prepared in 1994-95.
It will be Labor again that instigate more restrictions.
They were written by Labor and handed to Howard on a plate in 96, and now they have WA and the laws there as a basis right now for the rest of the country.

Nah, nothin's gonna happen. It's all scare tactics to get more SU membership?

We will never forget Howard’s dream being realised. You should read his biography sometime. Howard loathed Americas obsession with guns. Loathed Americans to be fair. He’s very scornful in his writings. He was determined that we never became like them.

You will never understand how that changed this country. People were very patriotic in a time when communism still existed and was a threat to our way of life.
And the government decided it couldn’t trust its own people. The very people who would only use their guns in anger to protect their country.
From that day forward we became a society of us and them. The government became our rulers.

Not the first time you’ve tried to gaslight our history. For whatever bizarre agenda you hold. Probably a pro lifer who hopes the LNP will ban abortion.

But we remember. We lived it. The police ministers convened and put together the NFA.
The single only body they outsourced for advice was the NRA , who at the time, was Americas new gun control advocacy.
Someone tried to shoot Reagan and they didn’t want black people taking up guns.

I know your comprehension skills are not great and I understand that.
But liberals hold a very different ideological position on firearms and self defence.
And our liberal party wanted that position for our nation.
And that is their pride.
Bipartisanship was just icing on the cake.

Here, my friends, is why we are where we are.
The character of a true lounge lizard who talks but not does, with the psyche of a 13 year old.
Being a member of a forum on social media is so enlightening, if not tragic. Because it shows the character of the type of unachiever, a do-nothing wanna-be who directly affects the rest of us.

I work 60 hours a week to feed large family and am highly accomplished.

But I'm not finished with you yet.

Antagonizing the police, as you do, across all social media.
Particularly in their darkest hour of grief.
It gains us nothing.

Since you joined this forum you've done nothing but bully others and belittle literally every other shooting org.
And even sffp.

You don't speak for us.
You don't hold yourself to the standards of what we expect from those who claim to represent us .

[bigrich]

i just had a look at WA's gun laws as i think they are going to become our new standard . i think a lot of shooters who just "plink" occasionally on weekends will be legislated out of owning guns if the WA laws are anything to go by .

Also people who just hunt. Hunting is not a genuine need without evidence as far as I understand.
Can anyone explain how it works in WA?

Hunting is a legitimate need in QLD currently. Recreational shooting. But I’m betting things switch over to hunters needing property letters or some paperwork to justify the “genuine need “. Time will tell, hopefully QLD will be a hold out on draconian laws. I hope….

[bigrich]

Wapati, womble, we need to be unified for the coming political battle. Forums are for the expression of opinions and ideas, if you don’t agree, agree to disagree. Trading personal insults and criticism is not helping.
Just my humble opinion….

[Bugman]

Wapati, womble, we need to be unified for the coming political battle. Forums are for the expression of opinions and ideas, if you don’t agree, agree to disagree. Trading personal insults and criticism is not helping.
Just my humble opinion….

Yes. I have to agree. Come on people, just tolerate each other. It aint that hard.

[9.3x64]

Just remember, the media will now be watching us closer than ever. I am sure they will be on every shooting forum in the country, looking for any little bit of mud.

[bigrich]

Just remember, the media will now be watching us closer than ever. I am sure they will be on every shooting forum in the country, looking for any little bit of mud.

I reckon you’re right there. Police too probably

[deye243]

Limit of 5 . psychological test every licence renewal that will be extremely problematic because extremely expensive and probably takes 12 months to get to see one of these head Shrinks and probably voluntary monitoring of your social media I don't think these grubs have anything off the table and all the rest of the Retarded stuff from Western Australia like storing bolts separate no folding stocks empty cases classified as loaded ammunition you know all that brain dead moron stuff that doesn't make anybody any safer it's just an excuse to take guns of people

[bigrich]

Limit of 5 . psychological test every licence renewal that will be extremely problematic because extremely expensive and probably takes 12 months to get to see one of these head Shrinks and probably voluntary monitoring of your social media I don't think these grubs have anything off the table and all the rest of the Retarded stuff from Western Australia like storing bolts separate no folding stocks empty cases classified as loaded ammunition you know all that brain dead moron stuff that doesn't make anybody any safer it's just an excuse to take guns of people

empty cases classed as loaded ammunition ? FFS are they serious ?

[No1Mk3]

Limit of 5 . psychological test every licence renewal that will be extremely problematic because extremely expensive and probably takes 12 months to get to see one of these head Shrinks and probably voluntary monitoring of your social media I don't think these grubs have anything off the table and all the rest of the Retarded stuff from Western Australia like storing bolts separate no folding stocks empty cases classified as loaded ammunition you know all that brain dead moron stuff that doesn't make anybody any safer it's just an excuse to take guns of people

empty cases classed as loaded ammunition ? FFS are they serious ?

It used to be the case in WA but is no longer. Nothing is off the table now, however. Sense has flown out the window and we are about to be reamed, absolutely nothing can or will be done to stop it. I know already my collection is toast unless I emigrate, and they may even prevent that happening throught AG and Defence requirements to take firearms overseas.