Speculating on new firearms laws

[Bugman]

Just out of curiosity, is it just me, but why do female members of the Greens look like a bag full of arseholes with very bad hair styles?
The other thing that crept up on me was the statement that in the new legislation, cat H shooters would have to store their handguns at their club.
I just can't see that working at all. To me, it just the government trying to make owning a cat H (or A/B too) too inconvenient with the hope that most shooters would just give up on their sport. I have shot a ranges that are very isolated and hidden and no matter how much security was involved, thieves would have a field day. This idea came from the anti gun lobby, including the Greens.

[womble]

[womble]

Just out of curiosity, is it just me, but why do female members of the Greens look like a bag full of arseholes with very bad hair styles?
The other thing that crept up on me was the statement that in the new legislation, cat H shooters would have to store their handguns at their club.
I just can't see that working at all. To me, it just the government trying to make owning a cat H (or A/B too) too inconvenient with the hope that most shooters would just give up on their sport. I have shot a ranges that are very isolated and hidden and no matter how much security was involved, thieves would have a field day. This idea came from the anti gun lobby, including the Greens.

The greens don’t differentiate between legal gun owners and criminal gun owners.
They don’t understand that you can legally own firearms. They just can’t process that information.
They see gun they think bad man bad
So in their minds, that would just be criminals stealing from other criminals

[9.3x64]

Just out of curiosity, is it just me, but why do female members of the Greens look like a bag full of arseholes with very bad hair styles?
The other thing that crept up on me was the statement that in the new legislation, cat H shooters would have to store their handguns at their club.
I just can't see that working at all. To me, it just the government trying to make owning a cat H (or A/B too) too inconvenient with the hope that most shooters would just give up on their sport. I have shot a ranges that are very isolated and hidden and no matter how much security was involved, thieves would have a field day. This idea came from the anti gun lobby, including the Greens.

The greens don’t differentiate between legal gun owners and criminal gun owners.
They don’t understand that you can legally own firearms. They just can’t process that information.
They see gun they think bad man bad
So in their minds, that would just be criminals stealing from other criminals

That’s exactly right.
The Greens want all gun owners to hand in their firearms and take up baking…

[9.3x64]

I am really disappointed in the liberal party. They have been historically aligned with the National party for decades. The National party has stood its ground trying to do the right thing by farmers etc. But the liberal party has offered bipartisan support for labour legislation in NSW.
I have voted for the liberal party all my life, but I will never cast a vote for them or the Labour Party ever again.
f*** them both, One Nation from now on.

[Finniss]

Good decision 9.3 Liberal took my guns, Labor took my crossbow. So I voted for One Nation since i could vote....if they existed on the ballot.

[Finniss]

Just out of curiosity, is it just me, but why do female members of the Greens look like a bag full of arseholes with very bad hair styles?
The other thing that crept up on me was the statement that in the new legislation, cat H shooters would have to store their handguns at their club.
I just can't see that working at all. To me, it just the government trying to make owning a cat H (or A/B too) too inconvenient with the hope that most shooters would just give up on their sport. I have shot a ranges that are very isolated and hidden and no matter how much security was involved, thieves would have a field day. This idea came from the anti gun lobby, including the Greens.

I had heard it suggested but didn't realise it was in the amendment. Get on the offensive i reckon. Email opposing MPs with why its not feasible. Give them some ammo to speak up.

Off the top of my head. Target shooters need their firearms at home for cleaning, maintenance and checks. Practice such as dry firing, muscle memory drills, refining technique. Pistols in particular already have high storage requirements sometimes requiring security systems.

Our very successful Olympic and commonwealth games team will have to live at the range or degrade severely.

Imagine 500 people at the club trying to find a safe direction to point their gun in while cleaning before it can be put away.

Giant humidity controlled facilities would need to be built with safe tinkering spaces and who exactly is going to take responsibility for the treatment and condition of my expensive firearms. Check in check out has been suggested so are we now arriving at the club 5 hours earlier to line up with the rest of the shooters across the other 5 ranges.

[Finniss]

I noticed forced club membership in the NSW fact sheet. Shutting down clubs was a WA sneak attack, I imagine WA suggested this to Minns. Try making your shoots when there is no club nearby.

[9.3x64]

I noticed forced club membership in the NSW fact sheet. Shutting down clubs was a WA sneak attack, I imagine WA suggested this to Minns. Try making your shoots when there is no club nearby.

Yes. I also noticed something in this NSW legislation about friends or family cannot come and try shooting for a day with a liscenced shooter. That is a massive change!
I have lost count of the amount of young blokes that I have taken to the range for the day that are still shooting.
That change is designed to make it harder for people to get introduced to shooting.

[Finniss]

I noticed forced club membership in the NSW fact sheet. Shutting down clubs was a WA sneak attack, I imagine WA suggested this to Minns. Try making your shoots when there is no club nearby.

Yes. I also noticed something in this NSW legislation about friends or family cannot come and try shooting for a day with a liscenced shooter. That is a massive change!
I have lost count of the amount of young blokes that I have taken to the range for the day that are still shooting.
That change is designed to make it harder for people to get introduced to shooting.

Ah yep I did notice that too. A lot of this stuff appears to have been prepared a while back.

The second biggest loss i see with this is not being able to give people opposed to guns a go. I've given a few a go over the years and once they realise the serious safety involved and how fun it is they chew through your bloody ammo quick smart.

[Wapiti]

Just out of curiosity, is it just me, but why do female members of the Greens look like a bag full of arseholes with very bad hair styles?

Because when you look like a pig, you end up feeling bitter and angry at everyone who's not. The Greens are the place where buttf*ck losers go because that's the prerequisite.
"Don't you dare stereotype me as a dyke"
"But you're ugly, fat, have a crew-cut and a nose ring, what's the problem?"

[9.3x64]

I noticed forced club membership in the NSW fact sheet. Shutting down clubs was a WA sneak attack, I imagine WA suggested this to Minns. Try making your shoots when there is no club nearby.

Yes. I also noticed something in this NSW legislation about friends or family cannot come and try shooting for a day with a liscenced shooter. That is a massive change!
I have lost count of the amount of young blokes that I have taken to the range for the day that are still shooting.
That change is designed to make it harder for people to get introduced to shooting.

Ah yep I did notice that too. A lot of this stuff appears to have been prepared a while back.

The second biggest loss i see with this is not being able to give people opposed to guns a go. I've given a few a go over the years and once they realise the serious safety involved and how fun it is they chew through your bloody ammo quick smart.

Yeah this legislation was prepared a long time ago by the greens and the NSW police.

[9.3x64]

But bipartisan support from the Liberals under Kellie Sloane and Labor’s decision to package both reforms together may force critics to abstain or vote for the bill gave the government confidence they would pass.
After a marathon debate, the omnibus legislation spanning gun reform, protest restrictions and hate speech crackdowns passed the Upper House about 3am (AEDT) on Wednesday by 18 to eight votes.
The reforms were supported by the Liberals but not the Nationals, who oppose further firearm legislation changes.

[johncz]

Hi from sunny Queensland, the weak link. (That should be on our rego plates!)
Loving the previous WA and now rushed gun reform in NSW, this will leach across all states eventually like a slow moving parasite.
While looking in the safe and recognising how Australia's self made terrorism and immigration issues will be resolved by stopping me owning three bloody Blaser rifles, yes one R8 and two R93, I am $35K in the deep end of the pool, I had an idea.
What if someone could just make a bolt that turn the other way a little bit, that would do it! Terrorism would be over and elves would s**t sparkles!
F#cking straight pull bolt actions, who knew.

[Finniss]

Yep. Wouldn't have picked straight pulls as the devil. Blasers with the easy change barrels encourage owning less guns overall too.

[9.3x64]

Yep. Wouldn't have picked straight pulls as the devil. Blasers with the easy change barrels encourage owning less guns overall too.

Yes, and that’s how every country in Europe views it.
One rifle with multiple barrels , is still only one rifle.

But not in Australia, our government is much smarter than all of them…

[alexjones]

The shooter could of easily used a Lithgow 303. And killed as many people.

[Finniss]

Or a landcruiser

[9.3x64]

The shooter could of easily used a Lithgow 303. And killed as many people.

Absolutely, practice is the key.

[9.3x64]

Or a landcruiser

Well yes, how many times have we seen that.
The Christmas market attack in Magdeburg Germany in 2024 were horrific, 6 killed and 309 wounded by anti Islam activists in a SUV.

One car.

[womble]

Please bear in mind the media here is full of s**t.

There’s no doubt whatsoever this is an Isis cell operating on our soil.

That is what happened. They took credit for it.

What do you think the bigass Isis flags on the vehicle were about.

Blind Freddy.

We probably shouldn’t have allowed them to own guns.

See the problem here is our government is just too f***ing dumb.

Whilst our intelligence agencies throughout the western world do foil most of these events. They missed this one.

Although we likely had a warning of something going down, just wasn’t specific enough.

We do monitor all their chatter. And they monitor us monitoring them. Isis works like any other military. They probe for vulnerability. They’ve been wanting to hurt us here for a long time. And operation Bondi beach Sydney Australia was cleared to go.
We literally had nazis calling for holocaust 2.0 lined up on the steps of NSW parliament a month earlier and no one blinked an eye. That would suggest vulnerability. Might as well just send them an invitation. Come to Sydney. Go full jihad . No worries mate. Head on down to Bondi beach waving your flag and screaming about Alan’s snack bars. We won’t even notice.


Government response. f*** it why not go full retard. When was the last time you stumbled across a Jewish festival in the back paddock. No no. It could happen. And we want them to be safe from the terrorists disguised as farmers I guess.

[wanneroo]

ISIS doesn't care about gun laws. Since when have terrorists been stopped by laws? Do people remember incidents like 10 years ago at the Bataclan?

Chris Minns is a totalitarian globoboomer wackobird. I don't care what party he is from, that clown needs voted out. His comment that we don't have American style freedom of speech so we can preserve multiculturalism is like wow man! Look you can't speak your mind but you can have Ethiopian food. I'll never stop speaking out about that guy until he is out of office.

Hopefully these laws will be challenged in court. Personally myself if I lived in NSW, I would do everything to make these people uncomfortable as possible, sue, sue, sue, and whoever voted for this, find alternative candidates and get them all voted out of office.

I am not a fan of Liz Truss, the former UK prime minister, not a good leader. But she said a good thing the other day, which I have said many times, but I am glad public figures are starting to recognize this and that is you have to speak like Donald Trump. As she said this is no longer the 1970s or 1980s where you have people on the left that just want more taxes and more spending. These are people now that want western civilization completely destroyed and you can no longer speak to them politely.

So you can no longer be kindly with these politicians, well please sir do not take away my guns or my right to speak.

[Wapiti]

Totally agree with you mate.
Problem is, Australians are not like Americans who will fight for their rights.
Australians hide behind the "rough, tough, Aussie fight-the-man spirit which is absolute bullsh*t. They are too used to handouts and lies, which they'd shrivel up without.

[Bugman]

Totally agree with you mate.
Problem is, Australians are not like Americans who will fight for their rights.
Australians hide behind the "rough, tough, Aussie fight-the-man spirit which is absolute bullsh*t. They are too used to handouts and lies, which they'd shrivel up without.

Speak for yourself sunshine. Australians have proud tradition of standing up where it counts and where they can. BUT some are like you. Full of cynicism.
That's what you hide behind. Thank christ, you appear to be in the minority.

[Wapiti]

Totally agree with you mate.
Problem is, Australians are not like Americans who will fight for their rights.
Australians hide behind the "rough, tough, Aussie fight-the-man spirit which is absolute bullsh*t. They are too used to handouts and lies, which they'd shrivel up without.

Speak for yourself sunshine. Australians have proud tradition of standing up where it counts and where they can. BUT some are like you. Full of cynicism.
That's what you hide behind. Thank christ, you appear to be in the minority.

Yep, I am the minority, that's the reason why you're deciding which guns to hand in. Your attitude is working just great for you now isn't it?
But no, I'm living rent-free in your head. Prove me wrong.

Yeah, attack me some more. That'll make you feel better. The weak man's way always helps. How about you take all that p*ss and wind and solve this problem for all your NSW buddies, since you're so superior.
I'll hang back and watch how you solve it.

[bigrich]

c'mon fellas ......

[Bugman]

I am definitely not superior as you put it. But I am not the one denigrating fellow Australians. As to handing in my guns. I am well within the new law limits.
No, your not living rent free in my head. I am very very particular as to who lives in my head. I don't need to attack you, as you put. Your comments and ideas are creating more damage for you than I could ever try for.
No piss and wind here, sunshine. Try not to forget that, if you can. If you do actually hang back then please also just shut the f&%k up. By all mean post comments but keep the cynical comments and condescending to yourself, if you can.

[Wapiti]

Look Bugman, I never set out to offend or belittle anyone.

Sure, I have my political views, but so have you. It's a forum where people share their views isn't it? Or do I have to be exactly like you?
I am not asking for anyone's approval because if I did, then I would have been in a place I don't want to be.

YOU were the one who, out of the blue, put me down. I never asked for that, and your comments were wrong and unnecessary in my view.
But you know what? I definitely shouldn't have had a shot back at you, and just let it go.

You reckon I belittle other gun owners? I share everything I have worked hard to achieve, with anyone who deserves it. I also stick my neck out even though I don't have to. If that offends you, or anybody else, I can't help that.
My writing style, if I go back and look at it, might come on strong but I assure you I'm not trying to be like that, it just is what it is. My professional life and the people I've had to deal with made it so, and yeah, it might offend some people, or cause people to read things between the lines I'm not intending. But I'm just having a go.
Again, if that offends you or anyone else, it's definitely not intended.
That's it.

[alexjones]

What tradition do Australians have of standing up?

Everyone stood inline in 1996 and gave up their legally owned property.

Drink driving? Seat belts? Fines for everything? Firecrackers? Guns? Every new law Australians just bend over and smile.

Australians have a history of being pussies and doing what the government tells them.

That is the sad reality. Just have to accept the fact that on the whole Australians hate freedom and hate independent thought.

[womble]

I lived here in 1996.

You think most people stood in line and handed in their guns. Why. Because that’s what the media tells you today. It’s bulls**t.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cizknVue_JE&pp=ygUhR3VuIGxhd3MgIHByb3Rlc3RzIGF1c3RyYWxpYSAxOTk2

Some of us have been fighting for a long time. Lived here our entire lives and our views haven’t changed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFrPpwXWTEI&pp=ygUcR3VuIGxhd3MgIHByb3Rlc3RzIGF1c3RyYWxpYQ%3D%3D

At the end of the day. The law is the law. They want you to break the law. That’s not how you win.