Gunlobby says its "winning the fight "- Aug 2025 editorial.

[Zappa]

Interesting an article i came across. 4 months old but an interesting read compared to then and where we are now.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... bers-surge

For those losing hope with the nonsensical proposed laws, keep fighting the good fight. There's hope.
SIFA spearheading the effort so keep yourself informed and sign up to their newsletters. In addition discuss the topic with this relatives, kids, friends and family.
Strip this down to its basic fundamentals of democratic principles and civilian rights. LAFO is not a taboo subject anymore.

There are a few gofundme 's being touted around on the socials (by different litigators!), asking for donations to raise class actions and high court challenges. I'd be weary of them. I'd be watching what SIFA do instead.

[womble]

The McDonald one is NSW firearms dealers association.
Would that not be linked to sifa ?

[Zappa]

The McDonald one is NSW firearms dealers association.
Would that not be linked to sifa ?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/mcdonald-law ... t-to-court
https://sifa.net.au/
https://www.nswfda.com.au/home

I cant find any public evidence of it, albeit it's a test case challenge.

edit: This gentleman describes them here. Use your own judgment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coY0h_fffg0

[womble]

https://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/159529/gofundme_donate_to_legal_defence_fund_organized_by_legal_defence_fund_nsw_firearm_dealers_association.html

Legal firm 1. https://mcdonaldlaw.com.au/
Legal firm 2. https://terraaustralislegal.com.au/
RPG Firearms http://www.rpgfirearms.com.au/

[Die Judicii]

Womble, if your sincere, go for it Mate,, if not i still say that I believe you’re a plant and not to be trusted. You put your finger on Far too much info for an average forum user.

[Zappa]

https://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/159529/gofundme_donate_to_legal_defence_fund_organized_by_legal_defence_fund_nsw_firearm_dealers_association.html

Legal firm 1. https://mcdonaldlaw.com.au/
Legal firm 2. https://terraaustralislegal.com.au/
RPG Firearms http://www.rpgfirearms.com.au/

thanks for the links.

Another lead from SSAA newsletter. It's good read back on pre-bondi articles because they're not tainted with smoke that's being blown out today from the media and politicians.
This particular one was done by
Samara McPhedran
Principal Research Fellow, Griffith University

https://theconversation.com/whats-behin ... lia-263810



excerpt

Who owns guns and why?
....
Social and economic circumstances are likely to influence gun ownership.

For example, the sight of empty supermarket shelves during COVID and the realisation we cannot always rely on supply chains for fresh meat seems to have prompted an increase in hunting.

In a disrupted and uncertain world, where cost of living is a concern for so many, it is unsurprising that various forms of self-sufficiency – whether that is bread making, growing vegetables, fishing or hunting – are attracting interest.

[Zappa]

Womble, if your sincere, go for it Mate,, if not i still say that I believe you’re a plant and not to be trusted. You put your finger on Far too much info for an average forum user.

whats that all about.

[womble]

he doesn’t elaborate.
He is a good bloke to hit up for a chat though. Very learned old bushy.

I’m going to email the firms and trusts holding the money .
Too many old farmers have been take advantage of in the past. The skepticism is entirely warranted. And I want it from the horses mouth.
Not in anyway discrediting the offer from McDonald legal.
Hes the best firearms lawyer in the country. We have nothing but gratitude.
Just doing our own due diligence.

[Die Judicii]

:unknown: he doesn’t elaborate.
He is a good bloke to hit up for a chat though. Very learned old bushy..

Well thank you for that Womble.
In contradiction to what you've said,,

I have based my views/comments on your past posts, comments and percieved views,,, namely,

Since your first posts on this forum, never once did I see the content thereof pertain to,
1) Actual firearm ownership
2) Active real life hunts
3) Nor actually participating in a hunting/shooting role of any kind.

Instead, your posts appeared to be restricted to comments and opinions only,, that could largely be contributed to be innoccuous, and guided, from other than yourself sources, including seemingly "inside information".

That continued unchanged for quite some time,, until a member brought up the subject of "plants" that originate from "WLB" or equivalent.
(I wish I had the time to search into past posts to find the exact one)
The content of that post, referred to the typical content of posts from "plants" whereas they have innoccuous comments and opinions, and as a result, over time are accepted to ie: (this forum) and continue on until challenged,,,, resulting in a sudden change in posted content.

You Sir,,, did exactly that.
Immediately afterwards, your posts suddenly included mentions about your personal hunting, and actual firearm ownership, that was never apparent beforehand and a proliferation of comments relating to actually taking part in the art of hunting with firearms,along with the pro firearm ownership tint,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Have you ever posted anything of the like, or photos in the past,, like average forum members have ???

Wonderfull,,,,,,,,,,, and seemingly no-one noticed except for myself.

As I have said,, (and If I am totally barking up the wrong tree), "If you are genuine, then go for it"

Regards, Die Judicii

[Wapiti]

Wonderfull,,,,,,,,,,, and seemingly no-one noticed except for myself.
Regards, Die Judicii

It's something I picked up on too and spoke out, but only after another member mentioned it to me. And I copped a few hilarious sprays from him for asking him to stump up. Because he's been caught out. Still no proof other than words, which are cheap.

But even when putting considerable time in putting up pics, you still attract attacks. You hope that by doing it, other people will follow suit and put more stuff up to liven the joint up. More often than that though, it attracts criticism. But it's always from the people who only throw a few typed lines in, never anything else. It's sheer jealousy, the seat warmers way.
It's easy to put other people's efforts down when you don't put anything up that can be compared to.
Maybe it's true, as what was suggested to me. Those that do have a go, fall foul of those that don't.

I get that not everybody has set themselves up to get all these experiences, but it's no excuse to pile on to those that do. They'd never do it to your face, that's a fact.

[alexjones]

120k has been raised for the legal challenge.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-ac ... 01800c1ea#

[womble]

Claiming I don’t hunt or shoot doesn’t make iit so. For whatever reasons you like to believe such.
I put up pics of my guns or builds from time to time, always have.
And I relate experiences past, present, future plans. Big deal.
I don’t put up pics of my property. Or my vehicles or anything else.
I don’t feel any need to prove anything to anyone. Why should I
Like most of us I am cautious on a public forum.
I do take issue when people denigrate other shooters, clubs, orgs. Deal with it.
If people post false or misleading information with ill intent. I might address it. Because I can. Been around guns my whole life so falsehoods are rather apparent. Deal with it.
Likewise born and raised here. Lived experience generational. Make false assertions. I might address it. Because I can. Deal with it.

I’ve met people from this forum. Gone out for a shot with them. Still keep in touch and get out occasionally.
Is it any of your business. Nope.
Do I have to justify anything I do at all to you. Nope.
I’m afraid the pair of you are just going to have to suck it up. Most of us enjoy sharing our interest and insights. Most of us don’t pry beyond what other members choose to share. Because it’s none of our business.
Some are more forthcoming than others. That is their choice. Not yours.

Here you go, have one each

[Die Judicii]

Feel better now do you mate ??

[womble]

Feel better now do you mate ??

Just remind me to confirm with you before I take leave from work to go shooting.
Wouldn't want to upset your schedule.