Pistol shoots interstate - record keeping

[Zappa]

For those that shoot interstate on competitions, how do you maintain those intendance records?

I haven't had a chat to my local club about it, but I'm thinking once a year, emailing my club the interstate attendance slips and the scorecards?
Or should I email this stuff direct to the firearms regulator?

I'll be spending a bit of time in Victoria this year and looking at joining up as an associate member at a club.

[No1Mk3]

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Not 100% sure of how it works in Interstate but here in Vic it is the Pistol Club Secretary who is responsible for sending in Members attendances for the year, so they need your "other club" attendance records to add to their report to LRD. This is the sheet I made up and email to our Secretary 1st week of December each year

[bladeracer]

For those that shoot interstate on competitions, how do you maintain those attendance records?

I haven't had a chat to my local club about it, but I'm thinking once a year, emailing my club the interstate attendance slips and the scorecards?
Or should I email this stuff direct to the firearms regulator?

I'll be spending a bit of time in Victoria this year and looking at joining up as an associate member at a club.

Very cool, do you know what clubs you're looking at shooting at?

I attended ten different clubs last year, only one interstate though. I am not betting my licence on any other club submitting attendance records for me, so I log all my attendances in the logbook at my principle club, and I made sure I had enough attendances logged at my principle club to cover all classes. I also keep a very comprehensive personal logbook of all my attendances. I shoot often enough that I don't need any other clubs to submit my records, but I do want LRD to be well aware that I am a passionate pistol shooter. I think your non-principle clubs are supposed to send your attendance record in to your principle club at the end of the year. I have not been advised that _any_ such records have been submitted to my club from elsewhere. One of those clubs was my principle club for four months but I haven't heard anything from them about submitting my record to LRD or to my current principle club.

I did 185 attendances last year, shooting 192 matches (48 class 1, 58 class 2, 68 class 3 and 18 class 4), plus 62 Training Shoots, plus supervising new shooters, and five working bees at three clubs. Attendances only count if they are matches or shoots that the club has notified LRD about. If the club schedules a Standard Pistol match on a Wednesday you can't claim a class 3 or 4 attendance for the day, even if you come and shoot a centrefire pistol. This is apparently the same for Training Shoots, they only count if they match what the club advised LRD would be shot on that day. If the club has scheduled a Class 2 Training Shoot on a Wednesday you can't claim a Class 3 or 4 attendance for it if you spend the whole day practicing Centrefire. When I discovered this I asked for the LRD list and spent a couple weeks ensuring all of my claimed attendances match the schedule, some did not so I had to drop them. This was when I discovered that the club has scheduled air pistol matches alongside every Rimfire and Centrefire match, so I could've done an air-pistol match before or after each of those for another 100 class 1 matches For example, one day we were there to shoot a scheduled 50m match but we all decided to shoot a Standard match instead. Both are Class 2 but I was told it couldn't be counted because it wasn't the match that LRD had scheduled for an attendance.

I would discuss it with your principle club secretary and see what he suggests. Or simply shoot enough matches there that outside attendances won't matter anyway.

[Zappa]

Handgun Away Shoot Form.pdf

Not 100% sure of how it works in Interstate but here in Vic it is the Pistol Club Secretary who is responsible for sending in Members attendances for the year, so they need your "other club" attendance records to add to their report to LRD. This is the sheet I made up and email to our Secretary 1st week of December each year

thanks mate.
I'll print it out and show the Secretary on Sunday to see if he's happy with that or something similar. I'm in the ACT.

Where do you shoot? I'll be staying in Ivanhoe and the most obvious choice for me would be SSPC in Springvale but I heard they can get pretty busy, and you have to pre-book your shoots. I shoot during the week and tend to avoid the weekends if i can help it for that reason. The next closest would be Diamond Valley which is VAPA affiliated (I've only got SSAA) so I'll have to pay the extra organization fees which isn't a deal breaker, provided its a good range ( lighting for the winter etc) and good amenities.

[bladeracer]

I'll print it out and show the Secretary on Sunday to see if he's happy with that or something similar. I'm in the ACT.

Where do you shoot? I'll be staying in Ivanhoe and the most obvious choice for me would be SSPC in Springvale but I heard they can get pretty busy, and you have to pre-book your shoots. I shoot during the week and tend to avoid the weekends if i can help it for that reason. The next closest would be Diamond Valley which is VAPA affiliated (I've only got SSAA) so I'll have to pay the extra organization fees which isn't a deal breaker, provided its a good range ( lighting for the winter etc) and good amenities.

There's also Oakleigh Pistol Club, and a little further south would give you Beaconsfield and Cranbourne Pistol Clubs. I haven't been up that close to the city yet but intend to be shooting at Warragul-Drouin Pistol Club at least three days a month this year.

[alexjones]

I don't log it.

I only have 2 classes on my licence so I only have to do 8 shoots.

Once I do my 8 shoots I stop filling out the sheet for the rest of the time.

[bladeracer]

I don't log it.

I only have 2 classes on my licence so I only have to do 8 shoots.

Once I do my 8 shoots I stop filling out the sheet for the rest of the time.

Down here the minimum is ten attendances even if you only own one class of pistol. I have all four classes so minimum of sixteen, four matches with each, shot over ten different days.

[alexjones]

I don't log it.

I only have 2 classes on my licence so I only have to do 8 shoots.

Once I do my 8 shoots I stop filling out the sheet for the rest of the time.

Down here the minimum is ten attendances even if you only own one class of pistol. I have all four classes so minimum of sixteen, four matches with each, shot over ten different days.

Really? 10 is minimum? Thats way different than Queensland.

In Queensland it is 4 shoots per class but minimum 6.

1 = 6
2 = 8
3 = 12
4 =16

[alexjones]

Up here a lot of people with just a glock 9mm etc shoot their pistol once every couple of months cause you only need to do 6 shoots.

[Zappa]

I have 3 classes and need the 14 per year. I clocked over 89 attendances last year but I'll be travelling a fair bit this year so I doubt it will be near as much.
Oakleigh club is an option, then there's Port Melbourne as well.

[Bugman]

I can only add that with the club I belong to, if you are a visitor and have arranged a visit via our club secretary., after the comp match/or practice, the score sheet is stamped and signed by either the club secretary or the R/O of the day, then the visitor takes it back or emails a copy to the secretary or club scorer of their club to be recorded as a legitimate shoot. Bit long winded, but it is what it s.

[bladeracer]

I can only add that with the club I belong to, if you are a visitor and have arranged a visit via our club secretary., after the comp match/or practice, the score sheet is stamped and signed by either the club secretary or the R/O of the day, then the visitor takes it back or emails a copy to the secretary or club scorer of their club to be recorded as a legitimate shoot. Bit long winded, but it is what it s.

Some of the Cowboys do that down here, they've showed me their logbooks. I thought it only applied to one specific club as they have no range facilities so _all_ of their shoots are shot at other clubs. Anybody using them as their principle club must do all of their compulsory attendances at other clubs so they need to keep records of them.

[Zappa]

I can only add that with the club I belong to, if you are a visitor and have arranged a visit via our club secretary., after the comp match/or practice, the score sheet is stamped and signed by either the club secretary or the R/O of the day, then the visitor takes it back or emails a copy to the secretary or club scorer of their club to be recorded as a legitimate shoot. Bit long winded, but it is what it s.

I can work with that. I keep all my attendance receipts and store my scoresheets in my onedrive anyway so this aint a burden and my discipline co-ordinatoors are ok with that. I'll be emailing them my scoresheets every 6 months as to not heap them on, at the end of the reporting year.

[alexjones]

In QLD my club does not keep score sheets.

Nothing in the law says you have too. Just an attendance record. Go shoot your pistols then go home.

[bladeracer]

In QLD my club does not keep score sheets.

Nothing in the law says you have too. Just an attendance record. Go shoot your pistols then go home.

My principle club here doesn't keep score sheets either, though they do have a ring binder file that gets our scores listed in it every month or so. It's primarily for calculating handicaps I think, and the scores are published in the local paper every couple weeks.

I don't understand handicaps. Rose shot a 733 out of 600 with handicap though, the highest ever recorded at the club

We've had three shooting days this year so far and I've shot five matches and two training shoots, I missed an air-pistol match because we had to go and collect hay from a paddock. I'll shoot three matches tomorrow, then we'll go pick up more hay in the evening. I might even do a Training Shoot tomorrow as I just picked up an Erma .22 Luger yesterday that is pretty cool, fixed sights so I need to work out where it points.