Speculating on new firearms laws

[womble]

And wherever you and that other ****wit Waipdedoo came from.

We don’t care. It doesn’t matter. We don’t care who you are or where you came from or how long you’ve lived here.

No one gives a s**t.

Because that’s who we are. Real Aussies say welcome.

Have some of our culture d**kheads.

[bigrich]

. Just have to accept the fact that on the whole Australians hate freedom and hate independent thought.

geez , you like coming out and making bold statements and painting with a broad brush don't ya ! i find this statement insulting, and probably so do a lot of other old school aussies who aren't happy with the status quo . you complain a lot about australia not being more like america with second amendment type rights mate . either deal with the situation and/or get more pro active to change things in australia, or migrate to the states. simples

[alexjones]

. Just have to accept the fact that on the whole Australians hate freedom and hate independent thought.

geez , you like coming out and making bold statements and painting with a broad brush don't ya ! i find this statement insulting, and probably so do a lot of other old school aussies who aren't happy with the status quo . you complain a lot about australia not being more like america with second amendment type rights mate . either deal with the situation and/or get more pro active to change things in australia, or migrate to the states. simples

I did say on the whole. Meaning the majority.

You can’t deny most people in this country love the government intruding in all aspects of their life. Victoria has more speed cameras than all of France. A country of like 70 million people.

[bigrich]

. Just have to accept the fact that on the whole Australians hate freedom and hate independent thought.

geez , you like coming out and making bold statements and painting with a broad brush don't ya ! i find this statement insulting, and probably so do a lot of other old school aussies who aren't happy with the status quo . you complain a lot about australia not being more like america with second amendment type rights mate . either deal with the situation and/or get more pro active to change things in australia, or migrate to the states. simples

I did say on the whole. Meaning the majority.

You can’t deny most people in this country love the government intruding in all aspects of their life. Victoria has more speed cameras than all of France. A country of like 70 million people.

yeah fair enough i guess, you do make good points at times . i wouldn't say people love it, they just don't know any different . a lot of people seem to have the attitude of a teenager living at home , where they have the benefits, but want a parent/ guv'ment to do their thinking and hard work for them.

i thought guv'ment and public servants were meant to serve the people , not their own grand virtue signalling self interests and ideologies . oh silly me, that's not how it works....

[alexjones]

. Just have to accept the fact that on the whole Australians hate freedom and hate independent thought.

geez , you like coming out and making bold statements and painting with a broad brush don't ya ! i find this statement insulting, and probably so do a lot of other old school aussies who aren't happy with the status quo . you complain a lot about australia not being more like america with second amendment type rights mate . either deal with the situation and/or get more pro active to change things in australia, or migrate to the states. simples

I did say on the whole. Meaning the majority.

You can’t deny most people in this country love the government intruding in all aspects of their life. Victoria has more speed cameras than all of France. A country of like 70 million people.

yeah fair enough i guess, you do make good points at times . i wouldn't say people love it, they just don't know any different . a lot of people seem to have the attitude of a teenager living at home , where they have the benefits, but want a parent/ guv'ment to do their thinking and hard work for them.

i thought guv'ment and public servants were meant to serve the people , not their own grand virtue signalling self interests and ideologies . oh silly me, that's not how it works....

I think voting should be based on tax brackets. The more taxes you pay the more voting power you have. Say 1.5 or 2x something like that.

People who do not pay taxes should not be allowed to vote.

[Wapiti]

You have made a brilliant point there Alex...
Those who are the puppets, the lazy, the non-contributing, will vote for whomever allows them to never be made to contribute yet still exist, which most with any sense of political awareness know which side of politics that is...
And then there is the supposed other side, the supposed right (a description the handout-addicted love to brand as the evil ones), who see how well this has worked in the recent past, and are emulating? Unsuccessfully?
Struggling to smear their supporters and past by seeing where all the cheap self-destructive votes come from?

You might need some caveats to what you are suggesting:
1. The beautiful older and retired people, that have contributed from a time when Australians were building Australia and gave it the option to be so wealthy,
2. The genuinely sick and disadvantaged, through no fault of their own?

The current bureaucrats hired to do the public's bidding just react to whatever keeps their gravy train going, not what's best for the big picture.
It's a people thing that is wrong now. The people pulling the strings are after something different, themselves.

[mchughcb]

Best summed up in Don's Party

https://youtu.be/iSSWkY33Li8?si=VPePnb6jBlRhvBiB

[Fester]

I am not sure how many of you are aware that while the FAR and NCAT were giving the known terrorists their gun licenses, they were also trying to take licenses of law-abiding white Aussie males because they had bad backs and ticked the pensioner disability box.

As we had no racist card to pull, and the mental health system is in such a mess that it could take a year to get a report.
They forced us to get a report from a GP doctor, that assured them you had nothing that could effect your use, handling, storage of firearms in any way. They asked rediculous specific questions that could have a shooter ruled out for almost any injury.
When the SFFP heard about the wheelchair bound safe shooters having their guns siezed and started asking questions.
The FAR had to admit it was a trial that they thought up themselves and introduced.

If you didn't see them coming over the last few years, you would have to be blind.
Like the new toughest gun laws that have been passed, apart from the details, they will only effect the law abiding shooters.
The terrorists and western Sydney suburbs shootings go on as usual.

The one or 2 year license renewals means as soon as a long term doctor retires and or newer doctors are not willing to take resposablility or legal comeback if an incident should happen, like the Bondi Plaza stabbing loon, your license is now gone.
No reason and nothing done wrong, just guns gone.

Welcome to living in a communist dictatorship.

[womble]

No. The car keys in the bowl were to prevent drink driving

[Wapiti]

I am not sure how many of you are aware that while the FAR and NCAT were giving the known terrorists their gun licenses, they were also trying to take licenses of law-abiding white Aussie males because they had bad backs and ticked the pensioner disability box.

As we had no racist card to pull, and the mental health system is in such a mess that it could take a year to get a report.
They forced us to get a report from a GP doctor, that assured them you had nothing that could effect your use, handling, storage of firearms in any way. They asked rediculous specific questions that could have a shooter ruled out for almost any injury.
When the SFFP heard about the wheelchair bound safe shooters having their guns siezed and started asking questions.
The FAR had to admit it was a trial that they thought up themselves and introduced.

If you didn't see them coming over the last few years, you would have to be blind.
Like the new toughest gun laws that have been passed, apart from the details, they will only effect the law abiding shooters.
The terrorists and western Sydney suburbs shootings go on as usual.

The one or 2 year license renewals means as soon as a long term doctor retires and or newer doctors are not willing to take resposablility or legal comeback if an incident should happen, like the Bondi Plaza stabbing loon, your license is now gone.
No reason and nothing done wrong, just guns gone.

Welcome to living in a communist dictatorship.

You sum that up brilliantly mate, and every bit of it is spot on.
Politically driven agenda.

[bigrich]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORgzHU7VFNI watch this fellas . womble posted this on the registry failures topic . if every australian could see this speech .

[bigrich]

here's another one with"ozzie" from 9 months ago . good watch and very prophetic https://youtu.be/1l8zY3zE7Z4?si=XWvKd2uMrxiosGv8

[zbenga]

I am not sure how many of you are aware that while the FAR and NCAT were giving the known terrorists their gun licenses, they were also trying to take licenses of law-abiding white Aussie males because they had bad backs and ticked the pensioner disability box.

As we had no racist card to pull, and the mental health system is in such a mess that it could take a year to get a report.
They forced us to get a report from a GP doctor, that assured them you had nothing that could effect your use, handling, storage of firearms in any way. They asked rediculous specific questions that could have a shooter ruled out for almost any injury.
When the SFFP heard about the wheelchair bound safe shooters having their guns siezed and started asking questions.
The FAR had to admit it was a trial that they thought up themselves and introduced.

If you didn't see them coming over the last few years, you would have to be blind.
Like the new toughest gun laws that have been passed, apart from the details, they will only effect the law abiding shooters.
The terrorists and western Sydney suburbs shootings go on as usual.

The one or 2 year license renewals means as soon as a long term doctor retires and or newer doctors are not willing to take resposablility or legal comeback if an incident should happen, like the Bondi Plaza stabbing loon, your license is now gone.
No reason and nothing done wrong, just guns gone.

Welcome to living in a communist dictatorship.

Look ... NCAT/QCAT etc. they do what they are meant to do, they don't check with ASIO, it's ASIO job to notify them that the applicant is on a terrorist list etc.

Now that they removed NCAT good luck getting a gun license! you have nobody to appeal to, so yeah I think that is pretty f***ed if you ask me

Imagine all the kids these days who are on ADHD medication, they are handing that s**t out like it's candy! if you're a teen and you're not on some sort of medication for your mind there is now something wrong with you! so when these medical records get pushed upstairs good luck getting a job not a gun license! they are pumping billions into NDIS and want everybody to have a subscription to NDIS via some sort of disability, if you can't copy with homework because you played too much Playstation immediately go to doctor and get ADHD meds and NDIS support.... now you grow up and try and get a job and you have to tick the disability or mental instability box or else they will check your record and bam! no bueno

I think when it comes to gun licenses I strongly support a mental check before handing someone a gun license BUT it should be across the board, anyone with a gun should do it including police and defence, didn't a NSW cop shoot his boyfriend and his boyfriend boyfriend last year or so with a police issued handgun? You have to be pretty f***ing mentally unstable to do that no? I also feel you have the right to appeal any decisions made by police/ASIO and be given a time ban of say 5 years before your record is clean etc.

I don't feel limiting the number of guns is the way to go, it's the same as saying you an only every own 4 fishing rods no?

In QLD at least the current regs are just fine I think, would be nice to allow us to get 300win mags again without QCAT and remove the PTA requirements if you already have a same rifle type, say if I own a 308 and I want to buy a 6.5 I should be able to just go a buy one over the counter, no wait no PTA etc.

[alexjones]

They got rid of NCAT in NSW but did they get rid of the supreme court? Of course it is very expensive over 50grand or maybe nearly 100 and nearly 2 years but is it still an option?

In QLD you can always appeal a QCAT rejection to the supreme court of QLD. Supreme court rulings are the ultimate case law as well.

Justice requires deep pockets.

[womble]

Ok I’m confused.
Why did he shoot both his boyfriends ?

[zbenga]

Ok I’m confused.
Why did he shoot both his boyfriends ?

no idea, he was retarded

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-26/ ... /105697242

[zbenga]

They got rid of NCAT in NSW but did they get rid of the supreme court? Of course it is very expensive over 50grand or maybe nearly 100 and nearly 2 years but is it still an option?

In QLD you can always appeal a QCAT rejection to the supreme court of QLD. Supreme court rulings are the ultimate case law as well.

Justice requires deep pockets.

thats the whole point of removing NCAT in NSW, the police says you can't have it because the moon did not align with the stars and thats it for life, I think we need to be very careful and not give away justice to law enforcement, justice should be separate from law enforcement .... always!

[deye243]

From a Victorian point of view never thought I would hear myself say this but now I wish John Setka was still boss of the CFMEU he saved the duck season for us in 2025 I can't help think we'd have a different outcome if he was still leading the union

[womble]

300 million budget for the buyback scheme is not going to come anywhere near the cost. It’s a joke.

It will blowout far beyond that.

And its money that could be spent far better elsewhere.

[womble]

From a Victorian point of view never thought I would hear myself say this but now I wish John Setka was still boss of the CFMEU he saved the duck season for us in 2025 I can't help think we'd have a different outcome if he was still leading the union

Still affects their members. This is unjust to the workers. They will pressure for fair evidence based reforms. And other unions will join with them.

[alexjones]

What did Howard spend? Like 600 mil to steal 600k guns if I remember correctly. That was 30 years ago so thats at least a billion in todays money.

[Fester]

It looks like Comrad Elbo is preparing to fold after his own cabinet seen the rest of Australia calling for a royal commission.

Lets hope it brings out the stuff about him throwing the ASIO boss off the table and just keeping his friend, the federal police boss in the loop.
I feel that may well have hindered the info sharing and let the dead scum get a license.
The live and dead scum had nothing in common with LAFOs.

He also had an anti- terrorist section ready to be diss-banded due to lack of funding.
He now cries federal police funding is at record levels.
All these things coming out is likely why he refused the royal commission until absolutely forced.

Morriscum was a psycho personality with their normal trait of being a compulsive liar, but look at Elbo now, after campaigning on a platform of govt transparency, clear as a pea soup fog.
He states that the only priority when they return is gun laws, and anti hate speech, must be the nazzis again eh.
Wong is still in hiding, and he now sends Charmers out to do the spin, no smiles now though.

[bigrich]

It looks like Comrad Elbo is preparing to fold after his own cabinet seen the rest of Australia calling for a royal commission.

Lets hope it brings out the stuff about him throwing the ASIO boss off the table and just keeping his friend, the federal police boss in the loop.
I feel that may well have hindered the info sharing and let the dead scum get a license.
The live and dead scum had nothing in common with LAFOs.

He also had an anti- terrorist section ready to be diss-banded due to lack of funding.
He now cries federal police funding is at record levels.
All these things coming out is likely why he refused the royal commission until absolutely forced.

Morriscum was a psycho personality with their normal trait of being a compulsive liar, but look at Elbo now, after campaigning on a platform of govt transparency, clear as a pea soup fog.
He states that the only priority when they return is gun laws, and anti hate speech, must be the nazzis again eh.
Wong is still in hiding, and he now sends Charmers out to do the spin, no smiles now though.

your right i'm in QLD , but i've been donating to the macdonald law challenge to repeal minns unjust laws, because this will eventually impact every gun owner in australia . challenging these new gun laws in the supreme court could be very damaging to the f@ckwit communists that rammed them through parliament

[jovialjosie2002]

Ok I’m confused.
Why did he shoot both his boyfriends ?

no idea, he was retarded

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-26/ ... /105697242

It says in the good book that Sodomy is an abomination. Very few people understand why, it is explained in The Talmud that they were very cruel to single mothers AND their children. Obviously the most vulnerable people in ancient society. In short sodomites are revolting, vile people. Interestingly is that lesbians are fine, and treat single mothers well. Maybe cause many lesbians are single mothers. As such, they are not forbidden in the good book. I don't wanna sound like a religo nutcase, I've just had a very good religious education.

[alexjones]

The old testament and the laws of Moses were abrogated by the coming of Jesus. Which is why Christians can have foreskin and eat pork.

[womble]

Ok I’m confused.
Why did he shoot both his boyfriends ?

no idea, he was retarded

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-26/ ... /105697242

It says in the good book that Sodomy is an abomination. Very few people understand why, it is explained in The Talmud that they were very cruel to single mothers AND their children. Obviously the most vulnerable people in ancient society. In short sodomites are revolting, vile people. Interestingly is that lesbians are fine, and treat single mothers well. Maybe cause many lesbians are single mothers. As such, they are not forbidden in the good book. I don't wanna sound like a religo nutcase, I've just had a very good religious education.

That is interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[bigrich]

Ok I’m confused.
Why did he shoot both his boyfriends ?

no idea, he was retarded

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-26/ ... /105697242

It says in the good book that Sodomy is an abomination. Very few people understand why, it is explained in The Talmud that they were very cruel to single mothers AND their children. Obviously the most vulnerable people in ancient society. In short sodomites are revolting, vile people. Interestingly is that lesbians are fine, and treat single mothers well. Maybe cause many lesbians are single mothers. As such, they are not forbidden in the good book. I don't wanna sound like a religo nutcase, I've just had a very good religious education.

um, yeah . not what i was expecting to see on a firearms forum talking about new gun laws . but i've always found most lesbians i've met to be good and easy to get along with though . i looked up the link regarding the copper who killed his boyfriend, and i've gotta say i'm a bit worried about the quality of police recruiting these days

[alexjones]

Look up the studies.

Lesbian couples have the highest rates of domestic violence. Nearly 50%

[bigrich]

Look up the studies.

Lesbian couples have the highest rates of domestic violence. Nearly 50%

glad i'm not in a relationship with a lesbian then

[womble]

Look up the studies.

Lesbian couples have the highest rates of domestic violence. Nearly 50%

Such a classic example of just how easy it is to manipulate you.

You could have applied critical thinking. You could have asked why. You could have read the studies.

But that first sentence got you hook line and sinker. It gave you that dopamine kick in reinforcing your bias. It gave you the banana. And that’s all you really wanted.

You didn’t want to know why or how.

But knowledge is power. And this is not a difficult one to explain.
What the studies actually found was that couples in lesbian relationships had experienced a higher rate of domestic violence in their lifetimes.

Women do experience higher rates of domestic violence. Rape, physical violence, stalking.
So when you have two women in a relationship there is a higher chance that at least one of them has experienced domestic violence in their lifetime.
By comparison to the typical couple of one man and one woman.