One Nation

[mchughcb]

[due to poor management , and idiotic green policy, manufacturing has been dying a slow death for years, mining and agriculture are propping this country up . so the regional "red neck" vote matters, and they feel trivialised by inner city "educated progressives" , when it's the regions generating the wealth for this country

Diminished Industrialization is a western phenomena due mainly to high labor costs and upward commodity prices. Couple that with competing overseas imports and global trade, we'll hardly see any industry starting up again. Carbon emissions and greener policies are play but a small part in our industrial producing capacity and the governments set targets, revise them and kick the can down the road. Libs are more aggressive than Labor but they both do it.

Agriculture is our main export and helps keeping basic items in check but as for mining and mineral exports, we're hanging off the coat tails of China.
If China reduces is resource needs of finds them elsewhere we're screwed. If there's a 10% downturn in resource and energy demands in Asia, we're screwed.
Let's not forget we also export Professional services, IP , business services, technology and some pharma.

Education is also one of our major exports. And we depend on it to educate our own.
We have an absolute crapload of foreign students here.
And then you get all these mongs saying “Oh no look at all the immigrants.

Uni model is out dated. Most lectures can be on the Web. Students don't need to come here to sit in a room to listen a lecturer when they can do that in their own country via zoom.

My experience is the biggest cheaters were overseas students.

I've lectured at university and these days I'd throw half of them out.

[alexjones]

I went to uni for a bit. Theres websites where you just pay for people to do the assignment. Now AI can do it.

Also other people can do the exams for you. All you have to do is just get a fake student card with your name and their photo. I did mining engineering online so the exams could be done anywhere so the teachers would have no idea who you were.


I am not admitting I did this I just know it possible.

Obviously things like medicine etc this can't be done.

[mchughcb]

Before my time and I was too poor to pay someone stupider than me to sit a test or sit the prac. That included bolt, bore and fire either.

[womble]

Who gives a s**t how they pay for it.

They still pay because ours is the best.

We just get more money out of them if they come here and do it.

[mchughcb]

Who gives a s**t how they pay for it.

They still pay because ours is the best.

We just get more money out of them if they come here and do it.

Shooter #1 was a student. Maybe you should care how they pay for it.

[bigrich]

Who gives a s**t how they pay for it.

They still pay because ours is the best.

We just get more money out of them if they come here and do it.

f@ck 'em , i don't want potential spies and intelligence gatherers loyal to a communist regime in my country . people and politicians , like dan andrews , sell this country out for $ . do you think we should sell ourselves out for money womble ? i've got more morales and principles better than that JMHO

[alexjones]

I support the traditional immigration policies that this federation was founded on. We had laws for a reason and they worked!

[Wapiti]

My parents were immigrants from Europe. They could NOT come here unless my father had a skill needed to build this country, and a married couple for mum to tag along and keep the household and family tradition.
This was only after interviews designed to figure out whether they were going to suit the mainly British values at the time of community, family and assimilation.
There was no dole, no free anything, except at the hostel where they waited for an organised rental home - WHEN dad was placed in a job. They came here with basically two suitcases.
Deliberately settled amongst established Australians, NOT in an enclave that hates the west.

This was from a country still blown to hell, bombs and ammunition in the fields everywhere, military firearms hidden everywhere in cellars and farm buildings.
There WAS NO GUN CRIME in a country that was full of used rifles and machine guns, because the people had endured Nazi occupation, followed by American and British sweeping through and dead soldiers lying all over the place. People knew how lucky they were to be alive then.
Not now, everything is expected to be free, given to them by lying politicians who have done nothing but be university activist oxygen thieves.

[straightshooter]

My parents were immigrants from Europe. They could NOT come here unless my father had a skill needed to build this country, and a married couple for mum to tag along and keep the household and family tradition.
There was no dole, no free anything, except at the hostel where they waited for an organised rental home - WHEN dad was placed in a job. They came here with basically two suitcases.
Deliberately settled amongst established Australians, NOT in an enclave that hates the west.

Deliberately settled amongst established Australians, NOT in an enclave that hates the hand that feeds them.

There fixed it for you.

[Wapiti]

Yeah, well put.

Right there, is how this could be changed. Now.
There is the problem.

But again, the voters place university activists with NO leadership and patriotic skills into places of power to destroy our country. The f**ken voters.

[bigrich]

Yeah, well put.

Right there, is how this could be changed. Now.
There is the problem.

But again, the voters place university activists with NO leadership and patriotic skills into places of power to destroy our country. The f**ken voters.

Then the common sensed conservatives need to reeducate the voters . The left have been pushing their agenda for years. How many refugees are truly refugees? I think it was the Indonesian president who called them financial refugees. Some come here purely for a better life financially, some even go back to holiday and visit relatives in the very country they left cause they were “persecuted “ . The NDIS is one of the biggest scams on the taxpayer ever. Quite a few migrate to this country, but it’s not to become an Australian, it’s the financial benefit. Dual citizenship should be scrapped.

[womble]

My parents were immigrants from Europe. They could NOT come here unless my father had a skill needed to build this country, and a married couple for mum to tag along and keep the household and family tradition.
This was only after interviews designed to figure out whether they were going to suit the mainly British values at the time of community, family and assimilation.
There was no dole, no free anything, except at the hostel where they waited for an organised rental home - WHEN dad was placed in a job. They came here with basically two suitcases.
Deliberately settled amongst established Australians, NOT in an enclave that hates the west.

This was from a country still blown to hell, bombs and ammunition in the fields everywhere, military firearms hidden everywhere in cellars and farm buildings.
There WAS NO GUN CRIME in a country that was full of used rifles and machine guns, because the people had endured Nazi occupation, followed by American and British sweeping through and dead soldiers lying all over the place. People knew how lucky they were to be alive then.
Not now, everything is expected to be free, given to them by lying politicians who have done nothing but be university activist oxygen thieves.

Labor introduced the dole in 1945 specifically for your parents.

Bloke just makes s**t up

[straightshooter]

..... Dual citizenship should be scrapped.

Once upon a time to become an Australian citizen people had to renounce their foreign citizenship although there may have been savings for British Subjects.
In 1993 the Liberal government introduced the notion of dual nationality supposedly to appease some of the braying from the multiculturalists.
Then in 2002 the Liberal government introduced dual citizenship in response to relentless lobbying from a certain influential element of the multiculture.
And now here we are.
So which party will do the scrapping?
The one that introduced the problem or the one that benefits from the problem.

[bigrich]

..... Dual citizenship should be scrapped.

Once upon a time to become an Australian citizen people had to renounce their foreign citizenship although there may have been savings for British Subjects.
In 1993 the Liberal government introduced the notion of dual nationality supposedly to appease some of the braying from the multiculturalists.
Then in 2002 the Liberal government introduced dual citizenship in response to relentless lobbying from a certain influential element of the multiculture.
And now here we are.
So which party will do the scrapping?
The one that introduced the problem or the one that benefits from the problem.

Auntie Pauline would scrap dual citizenship in a heartbeat

[Bugman]

Auntie Pauline would scrap dual citizenship in a heartbeat.

Yep. She has my vote. I have seen first hand, a person coming from another country with two limbs missing. Got a job then after a few years ditched it and went on the NDIS.......................WTF

[mchughcb]

Let's not confuse refugees with asylum seekers.

The shooter was neither.

[Wapiti]

Yeah, well put.

Right there, is how this could be changed. Now.
There is the problem.

But again, the voters place university activists with NO leadership and patriotic skills into places of power to destroy our country. The f**ken voters.

Then the common sensed conservatives need to reeducate the voters . The left have been pushing their agenda for years. How many refugees are truly refugees? I think it was the Indonesian president who called them financial refugees. Some come here purely for a better life financially, some even go back to holiday and visit relatives in the very country they left cause they were “persecuted “ . The NDIS is one of the biggest scams on the taxpayer ever. Quite a few migrate to this country, but it’s not to become an Australian, it’s the financial benefit. Dual citizenship should be scrapped.

Yes, Rich. As I've said somewhere else, back when Australia was becoming the best place in the world to live, and the free-est, immigration was only allowed for those with the required skills and an industry/professional occupation needing those skills to see the country's advancement.
That was from a time when those put in charge had more of the qualifications themselves for leadership and forward thinking.

Compared to now? University scum, dole bludgers, pot smoking hippies, lifelong tax leeches that've never ran a business, had a trade, hired/fired people based on skills and attitudes. People that have learnt everything from a book, a screen, a political doctrine.

Again, there's no hope until the voters realise it is them that is the cause of their own future pain, poverty and failure.
Unless a world war destroys the system and the human parasites that has seen this decline. Who is prepared for that?

[bigrich]

Let's not confuse refugees with asylum seekers.

The shooter was neither.

not referencing the bondi shooters at all . just generally referencing the attitude of some migrants

[womble]

Yeah, well put.

Right there, is how this could be changed. Now.
There is the problem.

But again, the voters place university activists with NO leadership and patriotic skills into places of power to destroy our country. The f**ken voters.

Then the common sensed conservatives need to reeducate the voters . The left have been pushing their agenda for years. How many refugees are truly refugees? I think it was the Indonesian president who called them financial refugees. Some come here purely for a better life financially, some even go back to holiday and visit relatives in the very country they left cause they were “persecuted “ . The NDIS is one of the biggest scams on the taxpayer ever. Quite a few migrate to this country, but it’s not to become an Australian, it’s the financial benefit. Dual citizenship should be scrapped.

Yes, Rich. As I've said somewhere else, back when Australia was becoming the best place in the world to live, and the free-est, immigration was only allowed for those with the required skills and an industry/professional occupation needing those skills to see the country's advancement.
That was from a time when those put in charge had more of the qualifications themselves for leadership and forward thinking.

Compared to now? University scum, dole bludgers, pot smoking hippies, lifelong tax leeches that've never ran a business, had a trade, hired/fired people based on skills and attitudes. People that have learnt everything from a book, a screen, a political doctrine.

Again, there's no hope until the voters realise it is them that is the cause of their own future pain, poverty and failure.
Unless a world war destroys the system and the human parasites that has seen this decline. Who is prepared for that?

This fruitcake is hilarious. And he just keeps on giving.

We had to beg people to come here and force them to stay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Pound_Poms#:~:text=The%20Assisted%20Passage%20Migration%20Scheme%20was%20created%20in%201945%20by,were%20not%20always%20readily%20available.

[bigrich]

Yeah, well put.

Right there, is how this could be changed. Now.
There is the problem.

But again, the voters place university activists with NO leadership and patriotic skills into places of power to destroy our country. The f**ken voters.

Then the common sensed conservatives need to reeducate the voters . The left have been pushing their agenda for years. How many refugees are truly refugees? I think it was the Indonesian president who called them financial refugees. Some come here purely for a better life financially, some even go back to holiday and visit relatives in the very country they left cause they were “persecuted “ . The NDIS is one of the biggest scams on the taxpayer ever. Quite a few migrate to this country, but it’s not to become an Australian, it’s the financial benefit. Dual citizenship should be scrapped.

Yes, Rich. As I've said somewhere else, back when Australia was becoming the best place in the world to live, and the free-est, immigration was only allowed for those with the required skills and an industry/professional occupation needing those skills to see the country's advancement.
That was from a time when those put in charge had more of the qualifications themselves for leadership and forward thinking.

Compared to now? University scum, dole bludgers, pot smoking hippies, lifelong tax leeches that've never ran a business, had a trade, hired/fired people based on skills and attitudes. People that have learnt everything from a book, a screen, a political doctrine.

Again, there's no hope until the voters realise it is them that is the cause of their own future pain, poverty and failure.
Unless a world war destroys the system and the human parasites that has seen this decline. Who is prepared for that?

one of the things that scares me the most is what they teach in our universities . they teach them "what" to think, not "how" to think . it amazes me the people in our society that think cause they've got a piece of paper that says their smart , they ARE smarter than the rest of us . i've got a high school education, but compared to some so called "educated" people i know, i'm far in front with common sense and practical problem solving skills .

you can lead a human to knowledge, but you can't make it think and this partially explains a lot of city bound voters

[bigrich]

This fruitcake is hilarious. And he just keeps on giving.

We had to beg people to come here and force them to stay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Pound_Poms#:~:text=The%20Assisted%20Passage%20Migration%20Scheme%20was%20created%20in%201945%20by,were%20not%20always%20readily%20available.

totally different world back then mate , and those folks are far more preferential than some of the recent arrivals . hang on, we didn't have a problem with terrorism and machete gangs until recently . hmmm

i really like fruitcake too . might have to go down to the IGA later

[Wapiti]

Knowledge is gained from personal experience, both success and failure.
With failure, and the ability to acknowledge and own up to it, followed by success, as true knowledge before leadership.

Books, universities and real leaders only prepare one to get to the point of attempting success... again only from actual hands-on trials.
When I look at the people that have been installed by the "naive" masses, who cannot seem to understand this, tells some of us all we need to know. Anyone surprised by the clusterf**k of human failure running our lives right now is cut from the same mould.

[mchughcb]

Yeah, well put.

Right there, is how this could be changed. Now.
There is the problem.

But again, the voters place university activists with NO leadership and patriotic skills into places of power to destroy our country. The f**ken voters.

Then the common sensed conservatives need to reeducate the voters . The left have been pushing their agenda for years. How many refugees are truly refugees? I think it was the Indonesian president who called them financial refugees. Some come here purely for a better life financially, some even go back to holiday and visit relatives in the very country they left cause they were “persecuted “ . The NDIS is one of the biggest scams on the taxpayer ever. Quite a few migrate to this country, but it’s not to become an Australian, it’s the financial benefit. Dual citizenship should be scrapped.

Yes, Rich. As I've said somewhere else, back when Australia was becoming the best place in the world to live, and the free-est, immigration was only allowed for those with the required skills and an industry/professional occupation needing those skills to see the country's advancement.
That was from a time when those put in charge had more of the qualifications themselves for leadership and forward thinking.

Compared to now? University scum, dole bludgers, pot smoking hippies, lifelong tax leeches that've never ran a business, had a trade, hired/fired people based on skills and attitudes. People that have learnt everything from a book, a screen, a political doctrine.

Again, there's no hope until the voters realise it is them that is the cause of their own future pain, poverty and failure.
Unless a world war destroys the system and the human parasites that has seen this decline. Who is prepared for that?

Are you talking about all politicians or just prime ministers. Several politicians i know did have other occupations before they entered politics.

[Zappa]

one of the things that scares me the most is what they teach in our universities . they teach them "what" to think, not "how" to think . it amazes me the people in our society that think cause they've got a piece of paper that says their smart , they ARE smarter than the rest of us . i've got a high school education, but compared to some so called "educated" people i know, i'm far in front with common sense and practical problem solving skills .

you can lead a human to knowledge, but you can't make it think and this partially explains a lot of city bound voters

A wise person once said " You only know what you know " . " And what you don't, you don't "

[womble]

This fruitcake is hilarious. And he just keeps on giving.

We had to beg people to come here and force them to stay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Pound_Poms#:~:text=The%20Assisted%20Passage%20Migration%20Scheme%20was%20created%20in%201945%20by,were%20not%20always%20readily%20available.

totally different world back then mate , and those folks are far more preferential than some of the recent arrivals . hang on, we didn't have a problem with terrorism and machete gangs until recently . hmmm

i really like fruitcake too . might have to go down to the IGA later

Ever heard of the razor gangs. Probably not. Your ignorance is truly astounding.

Why do you believe you are so much better than everyone else. What makes you so special.
Why do you think anyone needs your approval to migrate here.

Because none of that’s real.

So, how do you justify your superiority. It is apparent you are not particularly articulate or learned.
Or is it a need to feel superior to others.

I find the pair of you bemusing.
Both have this hidden knowledge never learned, that somehow means you know more than the most highly educated.
Some sort of magical power has been bestown apon you.

[bigrich]

This fruitcake is hilarious. And he just keeps on giving.

We had to beg people to come here and force them to stay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Pound_Poms#:~:text=The%20Assisted%20Passage%20Migration%20Scheme%20was%20created%20in%201945%20by,were%20not%20always%20readily%20available.

totally different world back then mate , and those folks are far more preferential than some of the recent arrivals . hang on, we didn't have a problem with terrorism and machete gangs until recently . hmmm

i really like fruitcake too . might have to go down to the IGA later

Ever heard of the razor gangs. Probably not. Your ignorance is truly astounding.

Why do you believe you are so much better than everyone else. What makes you so special.
Why do you think anyone needs your approval to migrate here.

Because none of that’s real.

i know about squizy taylor and the razor gangs mate . true ignorance womble, is failing to see the current status quo of radical religious extremism growing in our country because of some of the people that are slipping through the net with regards to being background checked when emigrating , and the people from cultures where forming a machete gang is normal . we need to be more selective with regards to who we let into this country, and dual citizenship has to go IMHO.

as for believing i'm better than everyone else , who's the "everyone else" ? is voicing a opinion wrong ? should i be woke and say nothing about some of the undesirable people coming into this country ? you don't agree with freedom of speech , especially about something that will shape the future of our society ?

me special everyone's special in their own way , even you womble

my approval for people to migrate here ? hmmm, well i'm a australian citizen who remembers when we had pride and patriotism in this country , and as a citizen i feel i have a democratic right and the freedom of speech to voice my concerns about cultures that emigrate here that don't have much of a inclination to assimilate into being australian . where i grew up in logan there's over 160 nationalities living there, and i've met and worked with a lot . and some mate don't think much of our culture , so in my opinion they can go back to where they came from if they don't want to be a part of our society . or do you think ethnic and religious enclaves in western sydney and jihadist preachers are a good thing ?

none of it's real ? look around you pal . i don't know where you live , but it must be in the country , or possibly in a high end inner city suburb , cause your out of touch with the reality of what's going on in our society . geez mate , a red headed fish&chip shop owner called out a lot of these things 20 years ago . and look where we are now . and i responded to your post without resorting to personal insults buddy . you have a great day

P.S i did buy some fruitcake and it was good

[Die Judicii]

This fruitcake is hilarious. And he just keeps on giving.

Yeah Matey,, you've demonstrated on quite a few occasions that your mouth can get quite foul, and on those occasions I get a mind picture of yourself stamping your foot just like a spoilt child.

As for "razor gangs" you seem oblivious to the fact that if the firearms disappear,,, we'll all be back there again.
Unless we all strive for a united front and stop bitching at each other.

The poor souls that ended up on the Burma railway learned very quickly.

[Wapiti]

Just do what I did, put the narc down as a "foe", so I don't have to see him desperately pretending to be a shooter.
It's great, you never see a pic of what he's been doing (except copy/paste off the net), and never a hunting story with game pics.
Do yourselves a favour.

[Wapiti]

Yeah, well put.

Right there, is how this could be changed. Now.
There is the problem.

But again, the voters place university activists with NO leadership and patriotic skills into places of power to destroy our country. The f**ken voters.

Then the common sensed conservatives need to reeducate the voters . The left have been pushing their agenda for years. How many refugees are truly refugees? I think it was the Indonesian president who called them financial refugees. Some come here purely for a better life financially, some even go back to holiday and visit relatives in the very country they left cause they were “persecuted “ . The NDIS is one of the biggest scams on the taxpayer ever. Quite a few migrate to this country, but it’s not to become an Australian, it’s the financial benefit. Dual citizenship should be scrapped.

Yes, Rich. As I've said somewhere else, back when Australia was becoming the best place in the world to live, and the free-est, immigration was only allowed for those with the required skills and an industry/professional occupation needing those skills to see the country's advancement.
That was from a time when those put in charge had more of the qualifications themselves for leadership and forward thinking.

Compared to now? University scum, dole bludgers, pot smoking hippies, lifelong tax leeches that've never ran a business, had a trade, hired/fired people based on skills and attitudes. People that have learnt everything from a book, a screen, a political doctrine.

Again, there's no hope until the voters realise it is them that is the cause of their own future pain, poverty and failure.
Unless a world war destroys the system and the human parasites that has seen this decline. Who is prepared for that?

Are you talking about all politicians or just prime ministers. Several politicians i know did have other occupations before they entered politics.

I'm talking about the leaders, pretty clear to me, and you know that too.
Of course there's engineers, ex-police, farmers, businesspeople, ex-soldiers/SAS in politics, but are they ever allowed to rise as leaders? NO, they are deliberately kept down because if they rose, it would make the university activist losers look just what they are, unqualified losers.
You only have to look at the results now, even your own posts having a whinge without any solutions put forward, right?

[alexjones]

Pauline interview on sky news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Kxw1gk ... e=youtu.be