albo's screwed

[Maxy]

Don Chipp.

Someone you’ve never heard of

Met him once. Nice bloke.

[alexjones]

These new hate laws are very concerning to me.

“Creates a new offence for publicly promoting or inciting hatred”

“Creates aggravated offences for hate preachers and leaders seeking to radicalise children”

Freedom is about being the most polite person or the most rude person. You decide! People should be able to hate whatever they like and express their views. Unless it is a direct threat to violence than be hateful if you wish. Only a communist would tell people what to think and what to say. It is better to keep things out in the open so they can be observed then just keep ban them and put them underground out of sight and out of mind.

Who gets to be the arbiter of this so called hate?

https://www.ag.gov.au/crime/hate-crime- ... d9nmLFxZ5w

[bigrich]

Who gets to be the arbiter of this so called hate?

that's what worries me . who's going to define what hate speech is ? on another topic i expressed my opinion about the quality of some of the people who emigrate to australia, is it a expression of my views or is it hate speech ? if australia became a republic it chills me to the bone that the likes of albo, wong and sarah hanson young could be involved in writing the constitution

[Wapiti]

Who gets to be the arbiter of this so called hate?

that's what worries me . who's going to define what hate speech is ? on another topic i expressed my opinion about the quality of some of the people who emigrate to australia, is it a expression of my views or is it hate speech ? if australia became a republic it chills me to the bone that the likes of albo, wong and sarah hanson young could be involved in writing the constitution

Who gets the say?
Any hi-profile political power-supporter of the coward himself, Albanese.
You know that.
Anyone who thinks mentioning anything that doesn't agree with trannies and Palestinian river-to-the-sea protesters, that's a sure bet.

Someone with the views of everyday taxpaying citizens - nope.
There's an agenda to push and a country to change.

[alexjones]

Who gets to be the arbiter of this so called hate?

that's what worries me . who's going to define what hate speech is ? on another topic i expressed my opinion about the quality of some of the people who emigrate to australia, is it a expression of my views or is it hate speech ? if australia became a republic it chills me to the bone that the likes of albo, wong and sarah hanson young could be involved in writing the constitution

The UK arrests around 30 people a day for so called hate speech. Its crazy mate.

If this happens here we are F’ed!

https://nypost.com/2025/08/19/world-new ... ensorship/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbe ... -be-saved/

[bigrich]

Who gets to be the arbiter of this so called hate?

that's what worries me . who's going to define what hate speech is ? on another topic i expressed my opinion about the quality of some of the people who emigrate to australia, is it a expression of my views or is it hate speech ? if australia became a republic it chills me to the bone that the likes of albo, wong and sarah hanson young could be involved in writing the constitution

The UK arrests around 30 people a day for so called hate speech. Its crazy mate.

If this happens here we are F’ed!

https://nypost.com/2025/08/19/world-new ... ensorship/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbe ... -be-saved/

i wonder how hard is it to get a green card , or walk into a US embassy and claim asylum....

[Wapiti]

I see that Albanese is getting some pushback from the LNP on his personal crusade gunlaws, or rather separating them from the " hatespeech" bullsh*t so that they can be further discussed.
Seems that the Nationals are extremely concerned by the doubling of One Nation first preferences doubling after Bondi, and their country constituents baying for blood and that they separate from the useless Liberals and Sussan Ley, the non-Leader.
And a lot of city-based real Aussies that are stuck in those cesspits of socialism.
They want to discuss the proposed laws and that they go too far, and many Libs are wanting nothing to change until the Royal Commission that Albanese tried to get out of, recommends if any new laws for firearms owners be appropriate.
The Nats are all saying, led by Littleproud, that nothing should change as far as gun laws go, and are pressuring the Libs again.
Nats are extremely concerned; farmers and farming orgs are pressuring them to LEAVE the coalition and join One Nation over this.

Albanese is resisting, and dribbling again, because he wants this all to be passed thrown together, regardless of the pointlessness of EVERYTHING HE'S PUSHING, because he doesn't want any scrutiny into his complete lack of leadership.
That's all this is about, this pigs ego and his desire to be the Burgermeister.

It is very important for all to realise, that their emails and letters to their local MP's has really rattled these politicians.
As I said from the start, it won't happen as this dog Albanese wants it if Australians get up and tell them that they do not accept this smokescreen into inner-city Labor failure.

Keep at it, guys. Match ALL the time you spend here whinging in sending more SHORT emails to all state and federal members that your vote, and those of your family and friends, are GONE FOREVER if they do not refuse this bullsh*t.
They are terrified of One Nation and the people leaving them, and even if you do not even like ON, use this to stop them agreeing with the worst PM in Aus history and save your past-time and our needs running ag.

[Wapiti]

Littleproud was on Sky again this morning, confirming what I wrote above.
We'll have to see if it plays out and people get behind them by expressing their views.

Albanese and Minns will not back down at all, unless they are completely held to ransom by the oppositions, AND the voter's pressure.
They are set for life, but their egos and desperation for success means they will keep pushing due to this inability to admit they've made a mistake with the voters.

Unfortunately this place is a tiny minority of people, that's why we all have to pressure out local and state members, and inform all our friends and family, associates and workmates, that they must help us stop this as best we can.

[Die Judicii]

All-Ban-Easy,,,,,,,,, What a sick joke for a PM.

[Finniss]

Unfortunately this place is a tiny minority of people, that's why we all have to pressure out local and state members, and inform all our friends and family, associates and workmates, that they must help us stop this as best we can.

Agreed, we are a minority amongst a minority. Only 4000ish donations to the McDonald legal challenge out of near a million lafos who i would have thought would have an interest. I really expected 100,000 or so just from NSW.

Some of my non shooting family are scared to send emails now due to it being reported as a coordinated campaign by the 'gun lobby'.

My thoughts ,if not now, when? They are trying to ban ammo belts FFS what next, pockets?

[Zappa]

Agreed, we are a minority amongst a minority. Only 4000ish donations to the McDonald legal challenge out of near a million lafos who i would have thought would have an interest. I really expected 100,000 or so just from NSW.

Many have given up and accepting its a fate accompli. What Tom Kenyon said in his latest video about being almost impossible to overturn a State law, probably spooked a few members deciding that the NSW Legal investigation avenue would be almost moot.

If NSW proclaims the new laws, the nation unfortunately will follow. I can't see much in the way of grounds for appeal but I'm hope I wrong.

[Wapiti]

No wonder some of you are chained to the wall. You criticise without alternative yet obey when told to jump, but somehow still claim to be the holy one.
Me, I make my mind up from all that I hear, then match it to what eventually does come to be fact.
If that is wrong, then too bad.
Who gives a toss what some of you think, especially the ones who comment about things they don't even follow. I'll give credibility where it's due.

[Wapiti]

Some more from what's out there from this morning, for those interested.
There is coming a lot of criticism of Minns and Albanese's gun laws, due to the brave souls sending messages to their MP's.
Be warned, it's from a commenter replaying Littleproud from Sky, so it's probably AI bullsh*t.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yWDdfpMc&t=67s

[9.3x64]

We must keep the pressure up.
Email all the state and federal MP’s again.
Now is the time to do it!
This legislation will be tabled next week, this is just the right time to get in their ribs and remind them that you will not vote for any party that supports any legislation that changes the gun laws any further.
Keep reminding them this will cost them thousands of votes.

[Finniss]

Emails sent. I like to trickle them in as things are reported.
Today's theme after a couple of standard bullet points regarding the legislation and votes is in response to Albo stating he isn't punishing shooters. How is taking peoples possessions for less than they are valued and rendering other possessions worthless not a punishment. How is cancelling my partners licence (NZ national) with out refunding her the remaining 7 years not a punishment. How is lumping all the animal control/protection duties onto me not a punishment.

[9.3x64]

I have just sent another round off to the Prime Minister’s office, and several of his ministers. I am not going down without at least getting in their faces.

[bigrich]

Agreed, we are a minority amongst a minority. Only 4000ish donations to the McDonald legal challenge out of near a million lafos who i would have thought would have an interest. I really expected 100,000 or so just from NSW.

Many have given up and accepting its a fate accompli. What Tom Kenyon said in his latest video about being almost impossible to overturn a State law, probably spooked a few members deciding that the NSW Legal investigation avenue would be almost moot.

If NSW proclaims the new laws, the nation unfortunately will follow. I can't see much in the way of grounds for appeal but I'm hope I wrong.

use the line from "the castle" movie , tell 'em to go get stuffed !

[OyKurwa]

How are more of you not alarmed by the proposed insertions of 474.45F, G, and H in this draft bill?

In these sections the act of accessing information to assist with the manufacture of ammunition using a carriage service (eg. online) is an indictable offence punishable by up to 5 years jail.

So, should this pass the act of going to a powder or projectile manufacturer's website and viewing their published load data is now an indictable offence.

That is frankly, insane.

[Zappa]

Attorney Generals facts sheet. Schedule 4 of the Bill. attached

Anyone wanting to read the full explanatory bill its here. I suggest searching on the word firearm and go from there. Some concerning points in there with AusCheck and the security agencies. ACIC, ASIO.

https://www.ag.gov.au/crime/publication ... -bill-2026

[alexjones]

Whilst I hate to use the nazi comparison but lets not forget that it was the great depression that helped bring the nazi party more mainstream as the general voters were desperate, have had enough and wanted change.


This bondi attack is the modern Australian peoples great depression event. The catalyst event that are waking people up that we want our country back to the way it was in the 70s,80s and even the mid 90s.

I speak a lot of hate about this once great country of ours but this is the last chance we have to be great again. I actually have some hope left.

[alexjones]

A red headed fish a chip shop owing women in my eyes will be the saviour of this country!

They sent her to jail. They tried to discredit her for decades but she continues the fight.

[bigrich]

Unfortunately this place is a tiny minority of people, that's why we all have to pressure out local and state members, and inform all our friends and family, associates and workmates, that they must help us stop this as best we can.

Agreed, we are a minority amongst a minority. Only 4000ish donations to the McDonald legal challenge out of near a million lafos who i would have thought would have an interest. I really expected 100,000 or so just from NSW.

pretty p!ss poor effort from a lot NSW gun owners . i'm in QLD and i've donated $100 twice. because if this sort of commie/socialist law isn't challenged, if shooters don't push back, it'll spread to other states eventually . i've read over 12,000 iranians have died fighting for their freedom from a religious regime, yet tens of thousands of NSW gun owners can't be f@cked donating the cost of a carton of beer or two for a legal challenge to protect their freedoms and rights ?
really freakin' shameful

[9.3x64]

Unfortunately this place is a tiny minority of people, that's why we all have to pressure out local and state members, and inform all our friends and family, associates and workmates, that they must help us stop this as best we can.

Agreed, we are a minority amongst a minority. Only 4000ish donations to the McDonald legal challenge out of near a million lafos who i would have thought would have an interest. I really expected 100,000 or so just from NSW.

pretty p!ss poor effort from a lot NSW gun owners . i'm in QLD and i've donated $100 twice. because if this sort of commie/socialist law isn't challenged, if shooters don't push back, it'll spread to other states eventually . i've read over 12,000 iranians have died fighting for their freedom from a religious regime, yet tens of thousands of NSW gun owners can't be f@cked donating the cost of a carton of beer or two for a legal challenge to protect their freedoms and rights ?
really freakin' shameful

Exactly, but many people I know in Australia don’t give a f*** about many things if it does not affect them directly. Many gun owners will not fight if it doesn’t affect them yet.
It will affect them one day that’s for sure, then they will whinge. I only own five firearms, but I have donated several times, written to all QLD and many federal MPs several times, because I know these changes are just the tip of the iceberg. Anyone that thinks that because they own a lever action, bolt action, or break action firearm they are safe in the future has their head up their arse…
I reckon the next thing to ban in the future will be any cartridge over 308, or maybe ban all military cartridges like 223, 308, 30-06 etc.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.

[alexjones]

What? So only 4000 people have donated 500k.

Where the f*** is the other 996k(plus) gun owners in this federation? That fund would be in the tens of millions.


Remember the pussies and or communist sympathisers in WA? Only 1500 out of over 95k showed up to the freedom rally in Perth.

[alexjones]

Speaking of rallies when the F are they happening? I got all my shirts and flags ready.

[Zappa]

Speaking of rallies when the F are they happening? I got all my shirts and flags ready.

Put them back in the tea chest, protests have been banned for the time being in NSW at least, and if this hate speech \ firearms bill is voted in, freedom of speech, the right to protest and assemble, will have to have prior approval and endorsement by the authorities, before they can be legally conducted.

As Willy OAM ( ex-digger) said on his diatribe regarding free speech, we're about to hit the turbo button and overtake the UK in their "dubious free speech laws".
Between 5 - 15 years imprisonment if you're found guilty of hate speech, on all platforms!

Half the posters here would be in orange jumpsuits.

https://youtu.be/WFtuoLD7mTs

The free speech doctrine is the foundation of liberal western values and this is being taken away. The unintended consequences are huge which would sow deeper division among our society.

Bronwyn Bishop lays it all here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sru4aLpHPmI
The country has gone to the dogs.

[Wapiti]

Unfortunately this place is a tiny minority of people, that's why we all have to pressure out local and state members, and inform all our friends and family, associates and workmates, that they must help us stop this as best we can.

Agreed, we are a minority amongst a minority. Only 4000ish donations to the McDonald legal challenge out of near a million lafos who i would have thought would have an interest. I really expected 100,000 or so just from NSW.

pretty p!ss poor effort from a lot NSW gun owners . i'm in QLD and i've donated $100 twice. because if this sort of commie/socialist law isn't challenged, if shooters don't push back, it'll spread to other states eventually . i've read over 12,000 iranians have died fighting for their freedom from a religious regime, yet tens of thousands of NSW gun owners can't be f@cked donating the cost of a carton of beer or two for a legal challenge to protect their freedoms and rights ?
really freakin' shameful

Exactly, but many people I know in Australia don’t give a f*** about many things if it does not affect them directly. Many gun owners will not fight if it doesn’t affect them yet.
It will affect them one day that’s for sure, then they will whinge. I only own five firearms, but I have donated several times, written to all QLD and many federal MPs several times, because I know these changes are just the tip of the iceberg. Anyone that thinks that because they own a lever action, bolt action, or break action firearm they are safe in the future has their head up their arse…
I reckon the next thing to ban in the future will be any cartridge over 308, or maybe ban all military cartridges like 223, 308, 30-06 etc.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Not so sure about calibre restrictions, just a thought but look at what was mentioned previously by Minns and Albanese that I don't think got up. Yet.
Some of us here are looking at what they said after Bondi and their intentionscome out when they reckon people are outraged and gullible...that they don't see any sane reason why urban dwellers need to /should have access to firearms in suburbia.
They said, remember, that there absolutely no need for guns to be stored in homes for people who suddenly have a hate episode or lose their sanity and be able to grab a gun from their safe and use it.
I also saw one of them say that there is no basic need for non-commercial types to have guns, and that shooting clubs etc are not an excuse. You'll also remember that mentioned was that hunting isn't an excuse either. Sure Minns said that.
I'm sure I'll be corrected here, but that's up on. YouTube somewhere in a press conference.

We reckon you only have to look at what was said, but has been quietly dropped (I think -who's seen the complete bill tabled?) To see how they'll kill gun ownership off, Labors agenda, no argument, but a massive amount.

[Wapiti]

And you won't be able to push back as part of a united group anymore, or even discuss your own god-given-right to your own opinion.

Are all of you completely aware of this from this monster, Albanese? Or is he just the parrot doing what his masters are telling him to do?
One Nation is completely opposing it, as are the Nats.
As I have said, and been caned for it, this all has been sitting there waiting, in a form designed to ram a huge, complete change to Aussie freedoms.
Some people here are already terrified to even speak up on this, which just shows who we are up against.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqUWGN5caE&t=487s Chris Bouy

Edit to add:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kstFdkjP7E Isaac Butterfield

[Wapiti]

Not sure about any other media org showing this at all, please feel free to show me and I'll switch. ABC, anyone?
The Murdoch SKY News being "not a real media organisation" at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXtpI6yCnvk&t=193s

[Finniss]

News reporting LNP and greens to reject hate speech laws.

Guess the One Nation boost has scared the Liberals