Spending

[mchughcb]

My main hunting calibre is 30-06. The bigger ones are mainly for comp.

[bigrich]

My main hunting calibre is 30-06. The bigger ones are mainly for comp.

Yeah, I’d like a medium bore for “big game “ comp at my local range, but it’s outside my budget for putting holes in paper. I’ve just built up a 7x57 on a ruger “tang safety” in 7x57, and am looking at a rifle for “rook rifle” class (32-20 possibly ) or “settlers rifle “ class in which a lever gun in 357/44mag will meet the rules shooting lead. This type of rifle with full power loads would be reasonably useful as a hunting rifle, so it’s dual purpose and flexible in use. At least that’s my reasoning. lol

[mchughcb]

Here's my rook rifle. Resleeved from 297-300 Rook to 22LR. I love it.

This was before I had the 50 yrd leaf adjusted to shoot for 50m with eley club. Shoots a very tight group at 25m and if you can see the target at 50m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsT5jgMBjsg

[Fester]

Never amazes me in the last 3 years how many pensioners ive seen drop 6-10k on a thermal scope or binoculars in the LGS while complaining about the price of ammo.

I'll have you know, I have been in ammo price shock since I got back into shooting. 22 ammo used to cost around $2.50 a pack.
Prices now are disturbing.

Not a chance I would even think about those thermals, and what's wrong with my Fleebay red and green torches.
I won't even buy a decent scope, let alone binos at todays prices.

When I was a boy lol

[mchughcb]

I'll be honest. For the average punter the current chinese scopes for a few hundred bucks will serve them well for 99% of hunting and shooting. My last purchases were a Pard Nite Hunter and a Pard Pantera 256Q on sale from the Pard Ebay store. The first cost $485 with a IR torch and the thermal cost me $872 shipped which was a bargain. Now they have jumped to $1019 if you use the 15% discount code. Still a bargain.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/22720352557 ... ULSmrOinZw

[mchughcb]

Never amazes me in the last 3 years how many pensioners ive seen drop 6-10k on a thermal scope or binoculars in the LGS while complaining about the price of ammo.

I'll have you know, I have been in ammo price shock since I got back into shooting. 22 ammo used to cost around $2.50 a pack.
Prices now are disturbing.

Not a chance I would even think about those thermals, and what's wrong with my Fleebay red and green torches.
I won't even buy a decent scope, let alone binos at todays prices.

When I was a boy lol

Been a while since winchester was that cheap. However you can get aguila these days approaching $6/50 which is cheap.

https://huntthenight.com.au/products/ag ... os=1&_ss=c

[mchughcb]

Cheapest, lightest quality night vision with a 940nm torch included. Including discount code its $470.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/22720352437 ... R5amzOinZw

[bigrich]

Here's my rook rifle. Resleeved from 297-300 Rook to 22LR. I love it.

This was before I had the 50 yrd leaf adjusted to shoot for 50m with eley club. Shoots a very tight group at 25m and if you can see the target at 50m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsT5jgMBjsg

22lr isn't allowed in the rules for rook rifle in our shoots . 297-300, 310 cadet , 25-20 or 32-20 are the accepted cals . has to be lead load and a pre 1905 calibre, and the rifle has to be in the "spirit" of the comp. period correct iron sights, no comp "globe" front sights. i'm gearing up for "classic calibre" class atm . ruger m77 tang safety in 7x57 mauser . the rules for this class apply to the calibre, basically anything before 1936 .scopes are allowed with no penalty to score points. the 7x57 case is shorter than the 270/30-06 case, changes how the extractor holds the case to the bolt face with the button ejector. was going to build this calibre on a mauser 98 variant , but wanted some variety in the safe . the ruger has some good points over the mauser , ejection is not one of them . had to do some "adjustments" to the extractor with a vice and hammer, now the ruger ejects perfectly . my load uses 34gn of 2208 with a 160gn bt speer . at $54 per 100 bullets this load is cheap to shoot, low velocity to keep barrel heat down will help accuracy too. i'm looking at "cheap to shoot" calibre's for comp , medium bore projectiles in general are too expensive for paper punching with my budget

[mchughcb]

Keep an eye out for the Australian fibe arms auctions in May. There are generally a few rook rifles for sale and betram generally has brass for them.

[fussy]

Amazing how many pensioners half my age can afford a cruise to Fiji, then ask to be bulk billed at the GP.

I've seen cases of people not wanting to use the drive through at the bottle shop, as they weren't sure they had enough fuel to get out of the driveway (let alone home), but spent > $100 on grog.
Or the bottle shop, where the customer asks if they can use Afterpay...

[Wapiti]

Amazing how many pensioners half my age can afford a cruise to Fiji, then ask to be bulk billed at the GP.

Aint that the truth.
The amount of people, not just pensioners, who gladly pay the $300-500 to see their specialists for all their worn out bits and say it's "worth it", yet scream and stomp like children when they have to pay anything more than the pittance Medicare pay a GP to bulk bill.
A GP is the person who has to decide the best way forward for the patient, and has to be skilled across the board, not in one field of medicine.
A Specialist does not appreciate any patients not already screened by the GP as appropriate for their field, in fact they expect the GP to filter out the chalk from the cheese. Their time is best spent with the knife or hammer.

And the ones that make the most noise and act the most childish are the ones with the heaviest gold jewelry, or covered in expensive do-fu*k-all tatts, or have eaten themselves almost to death.

[bigrich]

Keep an eye out for the Australian fibe arms auctions in May. There are generally a few rook rifles for sale and betram generally has brass for them.

yeah, i've been following those

[mchughcb]

Amazing how many pensioners half my age can afford a cruise to Fiji, then ask to be bulk billed at the GP.

I've seen cases of people not wanting to use the drive through at the bottle shop, as they weren't sure they had enough fuel to get out of the driveway (let alone home), but spent > $100 on grog.
Or the bottle shop, where the customer asks if they can use Afterpay...

Since covid destroyed the cruise ships they were offering bargains like $80/day with all you can eat buffets so the pensioners booked up big.

[Fester]

I have never done the cruise ship thing, but pre-COVID days, when talking to others, I felt like the only one.
Some were well off but tight as, and I think it was the value that had them cruising and eating their heads off.

Also, you are not allowed to troll a line, and they aren't likely to stop and let you play a big fish if hooked.

[Wapiti]

I have never done the cruise ship thing, but pre-COVID days, when talking to others, I felt like the only one.
Some were well off but tight as, and I think it was the value that had them cruising and eating their heads off.

Also, you are not allowed to troll a line, and they aren't likely to stop and let you play a big fish if hooked.

Can't think of anything more boring than that.
Maybe golf.
LMAO when those covid-era ships were anchored up as the wu-flu ripped through those Petrie dishes.
I worked with a few blokes who's only yearning in life was the next cruise they were planning. Maybe I'm missing something but being cooped up with a stadium full of people who've given up on life isn't my idea of fun.

[perentie]

I am with you there. I find no attraction to those Cruise Ships. The same with Retirement Homes etc. Never get me in one of those either. Most people I know that have been sent to one died not long after. I will die at home here. I have always worked outdoors and never in an office. The older I get the more antisocial I become.

[bigrich]

I am with you there. I find no attraction to those Cruise Ships. The same with Retirement Homes etc. Never get me in one of those either. Most people I know that have been sent to one died not long after. I will die at home here. I have always worked outdoors and never in an office. The older I get the more antisocial I become.

join the club i'm selective about who and where i socialise , can't tolerate fake inner city types . oh some are OK i suppose, but they need re-education about the real world . . cruise ships , yuck, spew, vomit . i find the idea repulsive . rather be hunting or camped out fishing up rainbow beach or brunswick heads

happy easter mate

[Die Judicii]

Hey 9.3 x 64,
I'm with you 110% on what your saying in the OP

Even in the mid 80's it was very apparent.

As a Pressure Vessel welder and working for a boss at the time,, I had difficulty making all the ends meet with four little kids and a missus.
But I used to see exactly what your saying every day.
99% of the other tradies as well as the TA's would be spending money that I could never figure or imagine where it was coming from.
Even the apprentices who were on real sh!t money back then would be spending.
Every day of the week they'd buy smoko, buy lunch, buy smokes, and go to the pub after work.
And,,,,, to top it off the large majority of em (when asked to buy a raffle ticket) would pull out wallets that were straining to contain all the cash within.

The formula for how all that worked always evaded me,,,,,,,,,, and still does, so your not alone in your observations.

[9.3x64]

Hey 9.3 x 64,
I'm with you 110% on what your saying in the OP

Even in the mid 80's it was very apparent.

As a Pressure Vessel welder and working for a boss at the time,, I had difficulty making all the ends meet with four little kids and a missus.
But I used to see exactly what your saying every day.
99% of the other tradies as well as the TA's would be spending money that I could never figure or imagine where it was coming from.
Even the apprentices who were on real sh!t money back then would be spending.
Every day of the week they'd buy smoko, buy lunch, buy smokes, and go to the pub after work.
And,,,,, to top it off the large majority of em (when asked to buy a raffle ticket) would pull out wallets that were straining to contain all the cash within.

The formula for how all that worked always evaded me,,,,,,,,,, and still does, so your not alone in your observations.

Yeah, it’s a hard thing to understand sometimes.
Buying lunch everyday, coffee, smoking, drinking at the pub etc, really adds up. It’s big money.
I met a young woman in our local dog park last week explaining how tough it is for her and her boyfriend to save for a house. I felt really sorry for them, as they seemed like a lovely young couple doing the best.
Then later in the conversation I heard her mention to my wife that she drops her Husky at Woofworld three times a week for the day to help with his anxiety. Woofworld is some sort of doggy daycare center for dogs, it has entertainment and stimulation activities for your dog.
This costs about $80 per day, and she is doing it three times per week.
FMD! I couldn’t believe what I was hearing…

[Wapiti]

Friends of ours use that doggy daycare. For some dog that needs it'd hair clipped regularly. Apparently it's "great for socialising the dog with others"
It's proof that if someone can dream up a service for people out there to avoid personal responsibility, that can make a mint from lazy people.

People around here have to buy the lates cars and complain about the crazy costs and the difficulty in paying, why do they do that then?
The vehicles they are buying, generally the lates Landcruisers, have up to a year wait for them after order (and have 2-3 price increases along the way), are under-engineered and really are only a status symbol, yes they were great vehicles once, but not anymore.
Even as a tax deduction, you still need the expendable cash to pay for these things and if groceries become difficult to buy because of that...
Then they say they can't afford supplement food for their other unnecessary money-pits like horses, latest quad bikes and then complain the bank is harassing them and they're at their credit limit.
Buying their personal indulgences then causes them worry ulcers!
Then when I pull up on the dirt road in my now 11 year old ute to say g'day, they say, still got that old clunker? When are you going to get with the times? Why'd you put new tyres on it, keep it going?

Banks seem to be the only businesses in this country making a profit, it's out of the pain the system demands most people put themselves in. Definitely a case of the financial system controlling us.
If you can afford to buy it in "cash", not credit, well then go hard.

[9.3x64]

Friends of ours use that doggy daycare. For some dog that needs it'd hair clipped regularly. Apparently it's "great for socialising the dog with others"
It's proof that if someone can dream up a service for people out there to avoid personal responsibility, that can make a mint from lazy people.

People around here have to buy the lates cars and complain about the crazy costs and the difficulty in paying, why do they do that then?
The vehicles they are buying, generally the lates Landcruisers, have up to a year wait for them after order (and have 2-3 price increases along the way), are under-engineered and really are only a status symbol, yes they were great vehicles once, but not anymore.
Even as a tax deduction, you still need the expendable cash to pay for these things and if groceries become difficult to buy because of that...
Then they say they can't afford supplement food for their other unnecessary money-pits like horses, latest quad bikes and then complain the bank is harassing them and they're at their credit limit.
Buying their personal indulgences then causes them worry ulcers!
Then when I pull up on the dirt road in my now 11 year old ute to say g'day, they say, still got that old clunker? When are you going to get with the times? Why'd you put new tyres on it, keep it going?

Banks seem to be the only businesses in this country making a profit, it's out of the pain the system demands most people put themselves in. Definitely a case of the financial system controlling us.
If you can afford to buy it in "cash", not credit, well then go hard.

I completely agree with you.
I think the banks have us exactly where they want us.

[Wapiti]

You guys hang onto your hats, prepare.
I'm not talking about doomsday clowns with nose rings and sleeve tats, telling you to start storing water and beans.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but within the next month, some really bad things are going to happen.

Making Aus fuel and energy independent will take many years - engineering then building refineries, exploring and drilling our vast oilfields, uranium and inexhaustible clean nuclear power generation.
We have all the resources, including the skills and manpower to power any world customer too... but only after fixing this problem for ourselves forever.
But whilst this country is still run by activists that have spent their lives under the arms of Mummy and the unions, we are stuffed.

But in the meantime, I just have a very bad feeling about what's about to happen.
The lack of leadership, intelligence and self-indulgence of the creatures in government now must be apparent to Aussies by now?
I really hope this isn't coming.

[9.3x64]

You guys hang onto your hats, prepare.
I'm not talking about doomsday clowns with nose rings and sleeve tats, telling you to start storing water and beans.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but within the next month, some really bad things are going to happen.

Making Aus fuel and energy independent will take many years - engineering then building refineries, exploring and drilling our vast oilfields, uranium and inexhaustible clean nuclear power generation.
We have all the resources, including the skills and manpower to power any world customer too... but only after fixing this problem for ourselves forever.
But whilst this country is still run by activists that have spent their lives under the arms of Mummy and the unions, we are stuffed.

But in the meantime, I just have a very bad feeling about what's about to happen.
The lack of leadership, intelligence and self-indulgence of the creatures in government now must be apparent to Aussies by now?
I really hope this isn't coming.

Yeah I hope you are wrong, but I have a similar opinion, and not just in Australia.
I have been in Germany recently unpaid labouring for a house build south of Frankfurt. I have had a break from work and have been helping a very good friend of mine son, build his first house. And I mean build his first house, he has never built a house before but is teaching himself how to do it with the guidance of friends and family. A young 20 something having a real go. Anyway the house is almost finished and I have invited him back to Australia for a long term holiday backpacking around Australia. The young fella said he is not sure if he can go, as he has to get explicit permission from the German Bundeswehr to leave Germany for more than 3 months. This is a new law that was brought in on the first of January this year. This law applies to all citizens between the ages of 18-46 regardless of your profession. Conscription will be the next stage. The whole world is like a giant tinder box at the moment…

[9.3x64]

And what does our government in Australia do?
It takes guns off it’s citizens, it should be buying guns for its citizens….

[bigrich]

Friends of ours use that doggy daycare. For some dog that needs it'd hair clipped regularly. Apparently it's "great for socialising the dog with others"
It's proof that if someone can dream up a service for people out there to avoid personal responsibility, that can make a mint from lazy people.

People around here have to buy the lates cars and complain about the crazy costs and the difficulty in paying, why do they do that then?
The vehicles they are buying, generally the lates Landcruisers, have up to a year wait for them after order (and have 2-3 price increases along the way), are under-engineered and really are only a status symbol, yes they were great vehicles once, but not anymore.
Even as a tax deduction, you still need the expendable cash to pay for these things and if groceries become difficult to buy because of that...
Then they say they can't afford supplement food for their other unnecessary money-pits like horses, latest quad bikes and then complain the bank is harassing them and they're at their credit limit.
Buying their personal indulgences then causes them worry ulcers!
Then when I pull up on the dirt road in my now 11 year old ute to say g'day, they say, still got that old clunker? When are you going to get with the times? Why'd you put new tyres on it, keep it going?

Banks seem to be the only businesses in this country making a profit, it's out of the pain the system demands most people put themselves in. Definitely a case of the financial system controlling us.
If you can afford to buy it in "cash", not credit, well then go hard.

agree 100% on the above . last great landcruiser was the live axle 105 series . though i'd still own a IFS 100 series. they command a premium . when i bought my 2006 diesel prado over 10 years ago , it had the arb steel bull bar , snorkel and dual battery system already in it . 172, 000 on the clock . previous owner before the young fella i bought it off was a little old lady in wagga. true i paid $19 500 for it, i checked prices during covid and they'd jumped up 10-15 grand more for a second hand one glad i bought when i did . it's got 354,000 on it now, and i won't be getting rid of it anytime soon . except for a flat battery it hasn't missed a beat . just did a check on carsales , anywhere from 10-30k . saw one that had 601,000 on the clock , there's a bit of life left in mine i think
your 6 cyl diesel ute will be going long after the new status symbol crap has fallen apart . got told by a diesel mechanic the air box on v8 diesels is floored on some models . doesn't seal properly . he had one in his shop with 160,000 that had a stuffed engine cause of this . landcruisers aren't what they used to be . even the old 80 series still command a good price , especially if their a 6cyl diesel . found a 1992 model 80 series sahara on carsales with 98,000 on it . $115,000 yes , 115,000 AUD cheers

[bigrich]

You guys hang onto your hats, prepare.
I'm not talking about doomsday clowns with nose rings and sleeve tats, telling you to start storing water and beans.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but within the next month, some really bad things are going to happen.

Making Aus fuel and energy independent will take many years - engineering then building refineries, exploring and drilling our vast oilfields, uranium and inexhaustible clean nuclear power generation.
We have all the resources, including the skills and manpower to power any world customer too... but only after fixing this problem for ourselves forever.
But whilst this country is still run by activists that have spent their lives under the arms of Mummy and the unions, we are stuffed.

But in the meantime, I just have a very bad feeling about what's about to happen.
The lack of leadership, intelligence and self-indulgence of the creatures in government now must be apparent to Aussies by now?
I really hope this isn't coming.

sadly, i reckon your right . things are going to get very bad , with food getting ridiculously expensive . i think a lot of aussies are starting to wake up , but too little to late

[Die Judicii]

The trouble Rich & Wapiti at present is,,, You can have the most reliable vehicle ever made,, but it won’t matter stuff all,,,,, if we don’t have fuel to put in it. And,, these modern day vehicles will not (almost guaranteed) run on the likes of wood gas generated in “gas producers”

[Die Judicii]

Food and Fuel price increases won’t be the only big issues. What of “Insurance” ? There will be a massive increase where people opt NOT to continue paying there insurance premiums. In fact that’ll be one of the first things to go because under duress its human nature to say “We can’t afford that anymore”,,,,, and the gamble is on.

[mchughcb]

Yep insurance is a big fixed cost that seems to jump faster than wages or pensions so thats the first thing to go.

[Fester]

Yeah, scary times could hit us now.

I knew nothing would change until we got to, or near, rock bottom, but I didn't see it coming this quickly.

The commies like Anal and his pommy leader mate won't change.
They will all have a great real estate portfolio, and their yearly incomes that the workers wouldn't see in 20 years.

I think they were just hoping Trump would be gone and the corrupted UN new world order would work out fine.
Well, controlling a shipping channel is all it took to change that.

Our incompetent Uni party govts are too far gone now to help with any plans of manufacturing resurrection.
Hell, they won't even start cutting the government waste, how can we possibly afford to keep that now?
The whole revolving door consultants and top fat cats thing has been fully exposed, and our PM recently passed quiet legislation to increase the government.

I suspect that Trump's play was to force the UN to actually do something, but they will just sh_t their pants and start jumping ship from their lucrative positions.
Elbo would have had more hope if he had gone back to sucking up to Trump.