



Die Judicii wrote:Alright Gents,,,,,, Be VERY wary of this.
I think it is supported by "Change.org"
If you donate anything to something supported by them you'll find that what you think is a once off payment will get taken out of your account every month.
And it is extremely hard to get rid of.
I made what I thought was a "once off" via PayPal and they kept taking every month.
Even after I unsubscribed they still took from my PayPal account.
I reported it to the Resolutions Center of PayPal,, and even tho I had documented proof showing I had unsubscribed prior to the last two deductions they
found in favor of the "vendor" and refused my application for refund.
Since then I have arranged with my bank to block further attempts on their behalf.
I think "Change.org" is run by an American business man.
DON"T GET SUCKED IN.

Wapiti wrote:Rich, did you see that our illustrious politicians are dumping their investment properties for (in Albanese's case) reportedly 4x the amount they invested in them, and becoming multi-millionaires. some topping the 20-50 million marks?
Something IS about to happen here.
As with everything, follow the money.
But I hope none of you will be fooled by the next Chalmers BS "Budget".
NOTHING has been done to stop record building companies going to the wall, daily they drop, taking people's payments with them.
NOTHING has been done to help tradespeople try and keep above water with fuel, energy, building supplies pricing and everything that is affected by this.
NOTHING has been done to train, attract or encourage new tradespeople (apprentices)
EVEN the young bloke in this story Rich posted wants to train in UNI for a useless, underpaid, under-indemand field.
NOTHING has been done to help the already-losing-money building trades be able to afford costly apprentices whatsoever.
NOTHING has been done make building materials available here in Aus - No, we rely on Chinese crap
NOTHING has been done to make our own steel, timber and stone building materials in Australia again despite our never-ending resources.
ALL OF THIS is on the heads of the politicians who have been self-serving themselves for 30 years or more.
ALL OF THIS is something they can start fixing right away.
What this well-meaning, but delirious kid doesn't understand, is that screwing up the incentive for mum-n-dad investors to encourage the building of new houses will actually completely destroy what's left here, and put housing ONLY in the hands of the mega-rich.
THAT is the idea.

Wapiti wrote:Rich, did you see that our illustrious politicians are dumping their investment properties for (in Albanese's case) reportedly 4x the amount they invested in them, and becoming multi-millionaires. some topping the 20-50 million marks?
Something IS about to happen here..


Die Judicii wrote:America seems to have done pretty well over the years,, they've had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope, and Stevie Wonder.![]()
Bad luck for Australia cos we've got No Cash, No Hope, and No bloody Wonder.

fussy wrote:Wapiti wrote:Rich, did you see that our illustrious politicians are dumping their investment properties for (in Albanese's case) reportedly 4x the amount they invested in them, and becoming multi-millionaires. some topping the 20-50 million marks?
Something IS about to happen here..
He cashes in, before making an announcement about changing the rules.
"Insider trading".


Fester wrote:They are getting the high-paid experts on the news tonight, admitting the system is broken.
The Reserve Bank head hagg will be talking with Elbo tomorrow, demanding he tell her the changes, as she just bought another investment property on the coast the other week.
A building company owner has recently become a politician to fight for changes before they all go down.
He explained how they have to wear the cost rises on the jobs that they are locked into, which leads to massive extra debt and bankruptcy.
He is getting on podcasts, and did Karl Stophonovic the other week.

Die Judicii wrote:Alright Gents,,,,,, Be VERY wary of this.
I think it is supported by "Change.org"
If you donate anything to something supported by them you'll find that what you think is a once off payment will get taken out of your account every month.
And it is extremely hard to get rid of.
I made what I thought was a "once off" via PayPal and they kept taking every month.
Even after I unsubscribed they still took from my PayPal account.
I reported it to the Resolutions Center of PayPal,, and even tho I had documented proof showing I had unsubscribed prior to the last two deductions they
found in favor of the "vendor" and refused my application for refund.
Since then I have arranged with my bank to block further attempts on their behalf.
I think "Change.org" is run by an American business man.
And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you'll get swamped by emails all of a similar type story.
DON"T GET SUCKED IN.



bigrich wrote:I always donate to rural fire brigades and the surf life savers. SLS saved my life when I was a kid and I haven’t forgotten.

Wapiti wrote:bigrich wrote:I always donate to rural fire brigades and the surf life savers. SLS saved my life when I was a kid and I haven’t forgotten.
At one of our last members meetings, the visiting official said all the SEQ Brigades had been given more funds due to generous donations from the public, and it had been distributed amongst the different country areas based on size and how we were spread out.
We were at a meeting where we were provided eskies full of beer and a mobile trailer-BBQ that was paid for from public donations.
He asked, have any of us got any ideas how we could spend the money?
We had just had the big fires, and I suggested a few mobile firefighter pod trailers be purchased and spread out amongst the members, as he had ruled out more 4WD appliances because "they were too expensive".
One thing that was terribly apparent was that we didn't have enough of these, we had plenty of members, but no gear. When spot fires broke out everywhere where the big appliances were already stuck at other fires, we had nothing to use.
I said, imagine if there were a dozed=n or so of these fire-pods dotted around the district, when a fire broke out down the road, we can get there way faster than an appliance at the local RFS station 50-75km away.
The short, portly beer-filled official said, "Hmmm, that's an idea, but what do you all think? We can either put that forward, or have more get-togethers with free beer and BBQ's for you all. We can't afford both. I vote for more casual get-togethers"
Well, the ayes had it, the majority wanted more BBQ's with free p*ss instead of more fire-fighting gear.
Thanks for your donation, Rich.
