30-30 lever guns, still a viable cartridge/rifle in use?

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30-30 lever guns, still a viable cartridge/rifle in use?

Post by Wapiti » 31 Aug 2026, 10:19 am

How many of you blokes still use a lever 30-30 rifle for hunting, or at least, from time to time or when the conditions make it a great choice?
The rifle itself, or maybe what ammo does a good job and is accurate enough for thick country work?
Anyone ever stretch it out a bit?
Does anyone have a nice projectile/powder combo that works reliably on say, pigs or deer?
Or even... quiet pop type loads for practice, close-up culling say, pigs in a trap or around settled areas?

With all the latest craze of the cartridge-rifle makers dreaming up game-changers that don't do anything at all different anyway, for example the WSM's, then the WSSM's (all dead) the 6.5 craze that suddenly became essential (everyone forgot the 6.5x55 that did it in the early 1900's better :lol: ), the PRC marketing that was going to kill the WinMags and RUMS but isn't, the old 30-30 is still being used.

Do peep sights work best? Reflex sights over red dots? Or even a 1-4x compact scope?
I've suddenly dusted off my '94 16" Trapper, and am going to ditch the red dot that I find pretty marginal for something else. and am unsure.
1-4x scope or reflex? Or just leave the ghost rings as the sights?
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Re: 30-30 lever guns, still a viable cartridge/rifle in use?

Post by Fester » 31 Aug 2026, 12:54 pm

My Dirty-30 is just a staino Rossi Reogrande, and I love it, mainly just for fun plinking.
A Skinner peep was fitted, then the longer front post to suit, and the set of different-sized aperture rings to shoot 50 yd groups and stuff.
The semi-buckhorns were good for melons at 25m offhand and lost favour fast.

I always loaded 150gr soft points at average factory ammo type velocity for brush gun hunting.
From memory, about 33gr of 08, as there's no need to develop or find accuracy nodes in a brush gun.

I only blooded it the other year because to carry it in the forest, which would be a pleasure, would also be a guarantee to see some deer at about 200yds, and only the Facebook hunters do that with their 30-30s lol, likely hunting on the screen, rather than in the field.
I was surprised at how effective it was as a brush gun, but it was only a large Eastern Grey Grasshopper, and I likely spined it.
It was only 30m-ish, and through trees and branches where the peep with the tiny target ring wasn't ideal, I should have just screwed it out and used the ghost ring, but that critter just fell on the spot, and I reckon a pig or deer would have done the same.

I loaded light pop loads with 165gr HRBC casties for years, just for cheap plinking and offhand practice.
It was the common 16-17gr of 2207, but the case was only about half full, and could fit a double charge, so checking the tray of filled cases was essential.
A filler would prob be recommended, but I never had an issue.

When Trailboss was eventually found on the shop shelf, back before the shortage, I tried it, but it went subsonic, or near.
It sounded and felt like a .22lr so I may as well have just shot the 22.

I never went back to reduced loads, as better offhand practice was to load up the casties, and Les from HRBC said the blokes were loading up their powder-coated projies way higher than first thought possible.
I actually worked up and shot a couple, charged right up at my full 150gr SP load levels.
It was up near max, and I could feel the recoil.
I found the point where they did lose accuracy and backed off under that.
I had no leading issues in the barrel, but that is likely when they start spraying, as the base of the projy is said to start melting.

I now have 2 cast loads, with the most convenient being a moderate charge of 08 on the std 165gr pill that would still put holes through critters, and surprisingly splashed some decent shots into the 300m mound that surprised both me and the RO, who I asked permission. That load is only a grain or 2 under my full jacketed 150 SP loads, so all I would need.

Being a gluten for punishment, I also do 2 quick cuts on my mini-lathe to fit gas checks and do full loads with cast pills.
Why, reloaders are always experimenting, eh

In conclusion, all my loads shot well enough, and much the same appart from shooting 8" lower and such.
The rifle has conventional grooves rather than micro, like the Marlins, so the Rossi, once sorted of it's shocking factory QC issues was the right choice for me.
The micro-grooved barrels only shoot well with a certain-sized pill, apparently.
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Re: 30-30 lever guns, still a viable cartridge/rifle in use?

Post by No1Mk3 » 31 Aug 2026, 12:55 pm

No longer hunt, but when I did 90% of it with a Win 94 30/30, bought a paddle stock Ruger in 308 in 1993, went back to the Winnie. 125g SP for goats and wallabies, 150g Silvertips or RN/SP for pigs and deer up to Reds, 180g RN/SP for Rusa (Sambar) & Elk (was going to say Wapiti, but considering who I'm answering to maybe a bit off), I always used irons and stalked up to 100 yards or so. The only time I took the Ruger or the Tikka M55 was high Alpine where cover was at best marginal. If I ever went out again (very unlikely) I would reach for the 94. I have taken the 94 to the range and shot Military 3P (Canadian Rangers, US Army Signal Corps, French Army and the British Navy used Win 94's) and even now scored well at 300m with my well used 1959 rifle, not good enough to hunt comfortably, but a better shooter using Hornady Leverevolution in a newish rifle could do so.
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Re: 30-30 lever guns, still a viable cartridge/rifle in use?

Post by Fester » 31 Aug 2026, 3:14 pm

It's funny, but I couldn't get any noticeable benefits from using the Leverlution projectiles.
My research showed that Hrdy uses a special powder that they developed for the purpose and likely get the best velocities, but too much for me to bother with, and 2208 is just so versatile for slower 30 cals.
Also, I don't need more than round-nose type BCs, as I don't really shoot it past 100, as a rule.
2206h is likely the ideal choice to start reducing loads, but I didn't pursue it as I didn't use 06 for anything else.
Not using a scope means I won't see much, apart from the odd fluked 50yd group to write home about.

Throwing bricks at animals is fine at brush country ranges or in the thick stuff but that's where it ends for me.
Same with offhand shooting, really; I won't do it past where I feel confident, and I have been practicing for years.

I think 30 cals do seem to hit hard, and blokes swear by the odd particular 130gr projie with a hollow point, so it's not just the weight.
Blokes shooting lots of pigs could get the real-life data.

The 300 Blackout is a go-to for shooting bigger critters in house paddocks with subsonics.
I don't know if I ever shot one, but I may have, as I vaguely remember the look of the ammo with a small case shoulder.
Yeah, mild shooting, as it comes back to me. He didn't reload, so normal loads, obviously.
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