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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by bigfellascott » 09 Jan 2015, 12:49 pm

padaro wrote:A hit on a running rabbit's a good shot any time :thumbsup:


Yeah I use a shotgun for those pesky little running ones, other wise I couldn't hit em :lol:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by valkyrie » 09 Jan 2015, 1:04 pm

Haha it is called best lucky shot
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by cavok » 09 Jan 2015, 2:12 pm

tom604 wrote:200 yards by worlds top shooter, perhaps, not to many here in sunny Australia, most are now in Iran and Syria.

well ill be polite :D . and while you didnt make any reference to the adf and you were talking about .22. you did say not to many in Aus and then threw in the fishing line with the bait of,,most are NOW in iran ect :shock: now you either mean that the worlds best .22 shooters are now in iran or that the best Australian .22 shooters are there :unknown: or "and how you would know this ?" the worlds best snipers,USA,Canada,British are in iran, syria.
and i loved the end bit, "may surprise even you" giving the impression that you "know" :clap:

you normally don't leave yourself open like this, bad night at the mall :unknown: :thumbsup:


From various media sources over the past few months we have all heard Australia has deployed 150 (people) from the west etc. The last I heard which is what we all hear and read about is that the 150 were awaiting for documentation to be completed, after which said 150/+- will etc. Really no big deal.

"Published Friday, October 3, 2014
Australia's cabinet on Friday authorized the deployment of special forces and military air strikes to tackle ISIS in Iraq, Prime Minister Tony Abbott said.

"Today, cabinet has authorized Australian air strikes in Iraq at the request of the Iraqi government and in support of the Iraqi government," Abbott said. "Also, subject to final legal documentation, cabinet has authorized the deployment of Australian special forces into Iraq to advise and assist Iraqi forces."

About 200 troops, including special forces soldiers, arrived in mid-September in the United Arab Emirates, a staging post for military operations into the region, as part of a 600-strong deployment as Australia geared up to join the US-led campaign. They are backed by Australian air force aircraft, including F/A-18F Super Hornet jets, an E-7A Wedgetail Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft, and a KC-30A multi-role tanker and transport aircraft."
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Combat_Wombat » 09 Jan 2015, 2:26 pm

Wait so now cavok is implying that our pilots doing air strikes are the best .22 shooters in Australia? :mrgreen:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Chronos » 09 Jan 2015, 2:39 pm

:unknown: No mention of Iran or Syria

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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by tom604 » 09 Jan 2015, 3:01 pm

hey come on,,go easy,,he could tell us how he knows but that would blow his cover :twisted:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by cavok » 09 Jan 2015, 3:39 pm

Combat_Wombat wrote:Wait so now cavok is implying that our pilots doing air strikes are the best .22 shooters in Australia? :mrgreen:



If by any word or gesture an individual may have been given the impression or by implication that they are, you got it right. Bloody oath they are, always have been. Good to see the 3 of you all share the same thoughts, great to see, that great Aussie mateship. :drinks:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by tom604 » 09 Jan 2015, 4:00 pm

:drinks: :friends: :thumbsup:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by KWhorenet » 09 Jan 2015, 4:00 pm

I still don't see how our best shots in the country (even totally disregarding .22 cal movie thing) have anything to do with any of the above. But I see my presuming you WERE talking about our ADF was correct ;)

Being trained to survive and carry out tactical manoeuvres doesn't make our guys crack shots. YOU would be surprised how LITTLE our ADF actually get to practice shooting, according to a qualified ARMY sniper retired recently. Our Snipers for example are lucky to get to shoot 10 times a year mainly thanks to retard officers who want to SAVE ammo and couldn't manage the logistics of forecasting usage, which he said was common nowadays. He also stated shooting makes up around 10% of their trade. Without bragging, I'm no less of a shot than most of them, believe it or not. I think you will find most keen shooters who have some ability and time on trigger can shoot on par or better.

Their accuracy pass mark is worse than my own personal pass mark I assure you.

Cheers anyway.


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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by cavok » 09 Jan 2015, 4:23 pm

KWhorenet wrote:I still don't see how our best shots in the country (even totally disregarding .22 cal movie thing) have anything to do with any of the above. But I see my presuming you WERE talking about our ADF was correct ;)

Being trained to survive and carry out tactical manoeuvres doesn't make our guys crack shots. YOU would be surprised how LITTLE our ADF actually get to practice shooting, according to a qualified ARMY sniper retired recently. Our Snipers for example are lucky to get to shoot 10 times a year mainly thanks to retard officers who want to SAVE ammo and couldn't manage the logistics of forecasting usage, which he said was common nowadays. He also stated shooting makes up around 10% of their trade. Without bragging, I'm no less of a shot than most of them, believe it or not. I think you will find most keen shooters who have some ability and time on trigger can shoot on par or better.

Their accuracy pass mark is worse than my own personal pass mark I assure you.

Cheers anyway.


And Tom604, you crack me up, Mall ninjas lol


Not a great deal of what you wrote here is of any news to anyone. Has been like that for years, Navy has a couple of boomerangs to throw at any aircraft, that is if there dingy is not being used. Army have a couple of bank sticks left over from new years eve party, Air Force hopefully will get their first Sopwith pup by mid year. The good news is more planes are expected as soon as the Government can get it tax policies through the senate.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Combat_Wombat » 10 Jan 2015, 9:58 am

This one was more of a freak occurrence with chances of a trillion to one.

Fun fact there is roughly a million seconds in a four week period so once in a million happens once a month.

Shot a "giant rabbit" with the .243 90gn hollow points just below the heart and from where it was hit it did 16 side flips before landing. On the ground was it's still beating heart that had been ripped out from the flipping completely intact. Due to the illegal nature of shooting "giant bunnies" and the level of profanities expelled by me I can't upload the video but manages to get the jaw drop every time I show it to someone.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by 1290 » 10 Jan 2015, 10:25 am

Maybe you know of someone who shot a giant bunnie, CW? ?
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Westy » 11 Jan 2015, 7:21 am

I thought the thread was about your best shots not your worst?????? :friends: :thumbsup: :clap: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Oldbloke » 11 Jan 2015, 6:25 pm

First rifle, first shot was a head shot rabbit at about 45 mtrs off hand. Rifle was a stirling .22rf with open sights. Not even sighted in. :D just a fluke
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by brett1868 » 11 Jan 2015, 9:52 pm

:D :D This started out as a nice fun thread but has degenerated once again into a slanging match...this crap's gotta stop please.

1290, On closer reflection I can't claim getting my wife pregnant first shot is anything to brag about. The shot did contain a million plus egg seeking sperm and only one hit it. Not so good after all I guess....
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Ade » 11 Jan 2015, 10:33 pm

This was a good post until some tools started going on about who's got the bigger dick when it come to knowledge of ADF around the world
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by KWhorenet » 11 Jan 2015, 11:40 pm

Ade wrote:This was a good post until some tools started going on about who's got the bigger dick when it come to knowledge of ADF around the world


Thank you for you added value. Were your feelings hurt?
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by DaleH » 11 Jan 2015, 11:49 pm

Dad and me use to practice with the 22 by setting up bottles at + 25m with the neck facing us and shoot the base out of the bottle through the neck - broke lots of bottles but when you get it right, it is a buzz
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by bigfellascott » 12 Jan 2015, 5:56 am

DaleH wrote:Dad and me use to practice with the 22 by setting up bottles at + 25m with the neck facing us and shoot the base out of the bottle through the neck - broke lots of bottles but when you get it right, it is a buzz


We used to use the spent 22 cases (just set em up along logs etc and shoot em (around 20-30m I guess) and we also used to shoot eggs at 70m or spuds. :lol:

It was good fun and a bit of a challenge sitting in the camp chairs trying to hit em.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by AlanK » 13 Jan 2015, 1:10 pm

Westy wrote:I thought the thread was about your best shots not your worst?????? :friends: :thumbsup: :clap: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:


It's because I'm sooooo good that when I miss it's the fluke :thumbsup:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Westy » 13 Jan 2015, 5:15 pm

AlanK wrote:It's because I'm sooooo good that when I miss it's the fluke :thumbsup:


Now that is :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Warrigul » 14 Jan 2015, 10:13 am

For those that doubt the humble .22, go out and try target shooting at 200m, fully possible. Windage is sensitive but the main inhibition will be your own skill or lack thereof.

The main issue is having sufficient elevation, but even a cheap mildot scope adjusted to the top mark as a zero will allow enough to easily get to 150m, and yes rabbits still die when hit by a .22 at 150, coke cans are a very attractive target.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by DaleH » 14 Jan 2015, 11:20 am

Warrigul,
just a follow up on your comment, our club in Perth has just started a 200m fly event for 22lr shooters (mostly using the same rifle they use for silhouette shooting) with several guys already hitting the fly.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Mich » 14 Jan 2015, 12:28 pm

Only done max 150 yard targets with the 22 personally.

Plenty of fun on a calm day. Bit dependant on that though. Gusty day and they're all over the place.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Combat_Wombat » 14 Jan 2015, 1:29 pm

While we are on the topic of .22s and wind how much does rain affect the trajectory? Is there are testing been done on it?
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Ade » 14 Jan 2015, 11:47 pm

KWhorenet wrote:Thank you for you added value. Were your feelings hurt?


Not at all. I just get fed up with off topic posts, and society in general
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Ade » 14 Jan 2015, 11:50 pm

DaleH wrote:Dad and me use to practice with the 22 by setting up bottles at + 25m with the neck facing us and shoot the base out of the bottle through the neck - broke lots of bottles but when you get it right, it is a buzz


My dad and I used to do the same with stubbies and a sharps inova .177 air rifle
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Mich » 15 Jan 2015, 11:16 am

Combat_Wombat wrote:While we are on the topic of .22s and wind how much does rain affect the trajectory? Is there are testing been done on it?


Not that I've noticed. I use my regular sighting during light rain and don't have to compensate.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Broom » 15 Jan 2015, 11:59 am

Combat_Wombat wrote:While we are on the topic of .22s and wind how much does rain affect the trajectory? Is there are testing been done on it?


This was worked out for .308, not .22LR, but interesting none the less.

(Not my calculations, all credit to "FrankenMauser" on thefiringline)

Rain makes up 0.2% of air volume during a 2-inches-of-rain-per-hour storm. (With 0.016 gallons of water falling through a cubic foot {7.5 gallons} of air per second.) It makes up far less than that during normal rain storms.

You have a 1:500 chance of hitting water in a one cubic foot air space (2"/hour) during a 1 second time interval.

Remember - The human brain makes us see things that are not necessarily real. It may look like a wall of water, but it's a bunch of individual rain drops. The streaking is a processing effect, done by our brains, so we have time to "see" the rain - rather than the brain only acknowledging it subconsciously.

To look at the odds of hitting water, let's look at only the bullet's path.

Imagine the bullet will travel through a "cylinder" of air.
With a .308" bullet, we need to find out how long this cylinder will be, to have a volume of one cubic foot.

1 Cubic Foot = 1,728 Cubic Inches
The volume of a cylinder is calculated as:
Pi*radius^2 (of circle)*length (of cylinder)

The radius of a .308" bullet is .154".
Pi(3.141)*.154^2 = 0.234 square inches.

1,728 cubic inches / 0.234 sq in = 7,382.5 inches

So, a .308" diameter cylinder needs to be 7,382.5 inches long to contain one cubic foot of volume. (7,382.5 inches / 12 inches per foot = 615.2 feet)

Which means.... your .308" bullet can travel 615 feet or 205 yards with a 1:500 chance of hitting water. Move closer to the target, at 100 yards; and you have a 1:1025 (0.0975%) chance of hitting water.

If it's only raining 1"/hour ... those odds go to 1:2050 (0.0488%) at 100 yards.

And that's not even figuring the adjustment for bullet flight time. Most bullets won't take a full second to reach the target. Therefore, they won't have a full second's worth of exposure, and the odds of hitting water are decreased even further.

For example (simple calculation with constant velocity):
A 2,100 fps bullet will reach a 100 yard target in 1/7 of a second (2,100 feet per second/300 feet = 1/7 second).
That means the odds of hitting water drop to a 1:7175 (0.0139%) chance of hitting water.

The odds are in your favor.

*Some of these numbers were rounded to certain decimal places.


"at 100 yards; and you have a 1:1025 (0.0975%) chance of hitting water."

Smaller .22 calibre must be even slimmer odds?
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Lorgar » 15 Jan 2015, 12:01 pm

Combat_Wombat wrote:While we are on the topic of .22s and wind how much does rain affect the trajectory? Is there are testing been done on it?


My local 22LR range is undercover and I've often shot in the rain there.

It's 50m only, never tried at other distances, but at 50 there is no appreciable vertical stringing or drop from the regular point of impact as far as I can tell.
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