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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by DaleH » 20 Jan 2015, 4:57 pm

There was an article last year in one of the gun magazines about shooting in the rain - fundamentally there was no noticeable difference
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Oldbloke » 20 Jan 2015, 5:26 pm

brett1868 wrote::D :D This started out as a nice fun thread but has degenerated once again into a slanging match...this crap's gotta stop please.

1290, On closer reflection I can't claim getting my wife pregnant first shot is anything to brag about. The shot did contain a million plus egg seeking sperm and only one hit it. Not so good after all I guess....


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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by meek » 21 Jan 2015, 10:31 am

DaleH wrote:There was an article last year in one of the gun magazines about shooting in the rain - fundamentally there was no noticeable difference


I suppose the water must glance off mostly. Not enough weight to deform a bullet from the impact and deform it to send it spiralling off like hitting sticks or brush in the bush.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by MalleeFarmer » 23 Jan 2015, 5:51 am

Shot a spent .308 case on the primer end with the .22 and repeated it at about 35m
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Westy » 23 Jan 2015, 7:24 am

I once when younger like 17 climbed outta a moving car to shoot a rabbit on the full hop right through the eye @ 50m from the hip...... that wasn't the cool bit though I was using a ruger 10/22, and to hit anything with any type of ruger is what made it a bloody great big fluke!!!!!! :clap: :lol: :lol: :wtf: :huh :clap: :clap: :clap: :sarcasm:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by RDobber » 23 Jan 2015, 10:05 am

Westy wrote:to hit anything with any type of ruger is what made it a bloody great big fluke!


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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Will » 23 Jan 2015, 10:21 am

MalleeFarmer wrote:Shot a spent .308 case on the primer end with the .22 and repeated it at about 35m


Freehand? That's good shooting.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Warrigul » 23 Jan 2015, 5:22 pm

Westy wrote:I once when younger like 17 climbed outta a moving car to shoot a rabbit on the full hop right through the eye @ 50m from the hip...... that wasn't the cool bit though I was using a ruger 10/22, and to hit anything with any type of ruger is what made it a bloody great big fluke!!!!!! :clap: :lol: :lol: :wtf: :huh :clap: :clap: :clap: :sarcasm:


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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Westy » 23 Jan 2015, 6:37 pm

They were a great bit of kit back in the day , can remember buying them for like $80-00 from the trading post every Thursday and they were a piece of piss to convert to full auto if you were so inclined!!!! :silent: :silent: :silent: problem was after a few 50 round mags the barrels developed problems!!!! :o :shock: :o and as for the Trolling up your ass as I'm just saying it like I see it!!!!!! I wouldn't even entertain the idea of one now days IMHO :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Warrigul » 24 Jan 2015, 12:56 pm

Westy wrote:They were a great bit of kit back in the day , can remember buying them for like $80-00 from the trading post every Thursday and they were a piece of piss to convert to full auto if you were so inclined!!!! :silent: :silent: :silent: problem was after a few 50 round mags the barrels developed problems!!!!


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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Jack V » 25 Jan 2015, 12:32 pm

Looking at some old photos it jogged my memory of a shot I made many years ago while spot lighting. The game had hidden behind a tree at about 120 yards that had two distinct trunks coming from the same base . There was a small , about 2 inch gap between the trunks from our angle . Through the scope I could see slight movement behind the gap and what appeared to be eye shine now and then . The game was looking through the gap . So I told my mate to keep the light on the tree , he could not see any of this. He said , "so are we shooting trees now or what " I said . "just keep the light right there ". The next time I saw the eye shine I fired . My mate said , " why the "f*ck did you shoot at a tree for ". I said look behind the tree you will find it with a bullet in the eye . Sure enough there it was head shot in the eye . Inspected the tree and there was a slight graze in the bark on one side. I had just come out of the Army in those days and I could shoot very well back then.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by inventurkey » 27 Jan 2015, 9:12 am

Warrigul wrote:My first rifle a 10/22


I'd love a semi-auto .22

Of everything shooters and anti's battle for, if I could have one of those it'd make me happy enough with all the rest.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by tom604 » 27 Jan 2015, 1:59 pm

Jack V wrote:Looking at some old photos it jogged my memory of a shot I made many years ago while spot lighting. The game had hidden behind a tree at about 120 yards that had two distinct trunks coming from the same base . There was a small , about 2 inch gap between the trunks from our angle . Through the scope I could see slight movement behind the gap and what appeared to be eye shine now and then . The game was looking through the gap . So I told my mate to keep the light on the tree , he could not see any of this. He said , "so are we shooting trees now or what " I said . "just keep the light right there ". The next time I saw the eye shine I fired . My mate said , " why the "f*ck did you shoot at a tree for ". I said look behind the tree you will find it with a bullet in the eye . Sure enough there it was head shot in the eye . Inspected the tree and there was a slight graze in the bark on one side. I had just come out of the Army in those days and I could shoot very well back then.


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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by 1290 » 27 Jan 2015, 2:31 pm

inventurkey wrote:
Warrigul wrote:My first rifle a 10/22


I'd love a semi-auto .22

Of everything shooters and anti's battle for, if I could have one of those it'd make me happy enough with all the rest.


I would like a semi 22...... but love a self loading 308. The day will come my friends......The day will come
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Jack V » 27 Jan 2015, 3:16 pm

tom604 wrote:
Jack V wrote:Looking at some old photos it jogged my memory of a shot I made many years ago while spot lighting. The game had hidden behind a tree at about 120 yards that had two distinct trunks coming from the same base . There was a small , about 2 inch gap between the trunks from our angle . Through the scope I could see slight movement behind the gap and what appeared to be eye shine now and then . The game was looking through the gap . So I told my mate to keep the light on the tree , he could not see any of this. He said , "so are we shooting trees now or what " I said . "just keep the light right there ". The next time I saw the eye shine I fired . My mate said , " why the "f*ck did you shoot at a tree for ". I said look behind the tree you will find it with a bullet in the eye . Sure enough there it was head shot in the eye . Inspected the tree and there was a slight graze in the bark on one side. I had just come out of the Army in those days and I could shoot very well back then.


tell me you were not spotlighting deer :silent: :silent: :lol:

No in those days there were few deer around except in Nth Queensland or Victoria . It was a pig . What animal it was is not germane to the story .
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by tom604 » 27 Jan 2015, 3:44 pm

Jack V wrote:
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Jack V wrote:Looking at some old photos it jogged my memory of a shot I made many years ago while spot lighting. The game had hidden behind a tree at about 120 yards that had two distinct trunks coming from the same base . There was a small , about 2 inch gap between the trunks from our angle . Through the scope I could see slight movement behind the gap and what appeared to be eye shine now and then . The game was looking through the gap . So I told my mate to keep the light on the tree , he could not see any of this. He said , "so are we shooting trees now or what " I said . "just keep the light right there ". The next time I saw the eye shine I fired . My mate said , " why the "f*ck did you shoot at a tree for ". I said look behind the tree you will find it with a bullet in the eye . Sure enough there it was head shot in the eye . Inspected the tree and there was a slight graze in the bark on one side. I had just come out of the Army in those days and I could shoot very well back then.


tell me you were not spotlighting deer :silent: :silent: :lol:

No in those days there were few deer around except in Nth Queensland or Victoria . It was a pig . What animal it was is not germane to the story .


better typer? than i am :lol: pig is one less letter :lol: but you do lose that aura of mystery :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Westy » 27 Jan 2015, 5:28 pm

1290 wrote:
inventurkey wrote:
Warrigul wrote:My first rifle a 10/22


I'd love a semi-auto .22

Of everything shooters and anti's battle for, if I could have one of those it'd make me happy enough with all the rest.


I would like a semi 22...... but love a self loading 308. The day will come my friends......The day will come

Hey 1290 their over rated Really they are!!!! :thumbsdown: :wtf: :thumbsdown:
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by 1290 » 27 Jan 2015, 6:46 pm

Westy wrote:
1290 wrote:
inventurkey wrote:
Warrigul wrote:My first rifle a 10/22


I'd love a semi-auto .22

Of everything shooters and anti's battle for, if I could have one of those it'd make me happy enough with all the rest.


I would like a semi 22...... but love a self loading 308. The day will come my friends......The day will come

Hey 1290 their over rated Really they are!!!! :thumbsdown: :wtf: :thumbsdown:


I didnt type SLR westy.....have you shot an A R10 though? I'd be happy with either as long as it goes bang, doesnt jam, and shoots generally where its pointed :thumbsup: stuff the rooga, though they are used in combat...
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by bigfellascott » 28 Jan 2015, 8:34 am

Ade wrote:
DaleH wrote:Dad and me use to practice with the 22 by setting up bottles at + 25m with the neck facing us and shoot the base out of the bottle through the neck - broke lots of bottles but when you get it right, it is a buzz


My dad and I used to do the same with stubbies and a sharps inova .177 air rifle


Those Sharp Inova's were bloody accurate rifles, had one of those as a kid, they were very powerful too (I used those Pemethius Pellets in it and it would punch through both sides of a 44 gal drum :wtf: It was the best air rifle I ever had and that includes my Weirauch HW80 as well.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Jack V » 28 Jan 2015, 8:49 am

Iv'e shot an SLR , M16 , AR10 , Rugger Mini 223 and 30 . Valmet 308 , Daiwoo and a few others I can't remember
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Jack V » 28 Jan 2015, 8:55 am

DaleH wrote:There was an article last year in one of the gun magazines about shooting in the rain - fundamentally there was no noticeable difference

It all depends on how heavy the rain is and how far the bullet has to fly . In normal rain and short ranges the bullet gets to the target so quickly the rain has little affect . However in a heavy monsoonal down pour and shooting at long range it can affect the trajectory . Drag would be increased . Most people would not be shooting in a heavy down pour because vision would be very poor or zero anyway at long range .
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Warrigul » 28 Jan 2015, 11:06 am

meek wrote:
DaleH wrote:There was an article last year in one of the gun magazines about shooting in the rain - fundamentally there was no noticeable difference


I suppose the water must glance off mostly. Not enough weight to deform a bullet from the impact and deform it to send it spiralling off like hitting sticks or brush in the bush.


I think most people that have used a .17HMR at distance in the rain would challenge that, just quietly.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Jack V » 28 Jan 2015, 12:42 pm

Yeah small light bullets would be affected more over a longer distance .
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by 1290 » 28 Jan 2015, 1:10 pm

I would say its more about the momentum of the bullet.... a small fast bullet would be similarly affected by impacting a rain drop as a slower heavier one;

3000 fps 50grainer will have the same momentum as a 2000fps 75grainer as will a 1000fps 150grainer all having equal momentum [m.v] (different kinetic energy though) Note trajectory and range is another argument determined by velocity and bc....
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Westy » 28 Jan 2015, 1:14 pm

IMHO I believe that rain causes drag on the projectile causing it to slow down significantly and this might not be noticeable at close range I believe that over 400-700m it would be quite noticeable. the projectile would want to drop quicker and hit with less impact, but this is only my thoughts on this!!!!!
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Jack V » 28 Jan 2015, 1:17 pm

Light bullets loose their velocity faster than a heavier all else being equal. Over the longer distance the lighter bullet would be affected by increasing drag more than a heavier one . If I am shooting in a down poor at 500 metres I am putting my trust in a 338 LM not a 17 HMR .
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Post by Smiley » 28 Jan 2015, 8:14 pm

My luckiest shot was with a Hitachi nail gun. I shot a paper wasps nest off a house soffit from about 7m. Straight through the tiny thread holding it on with 1st shot. With witnesses who were speechless.
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Westy » 29 Jan 2015, 7:23 am

1290 wrote:
Westy wrote:
1290 wrote:
inventurkey wrote:
Warrigul wrote:My first rifle a 10/22


I'd love a semi-auto .22

Of everything shooters and anti's battle for, if I could have one of those it'd make me happy enough with all the rest.


I would like a semi 22...... but love a self loading 308. The day will come my friends......The day will come

Hey 1290 their over rated Really they are!!!! :thumbsdown: :wtf: :thumbsdown:


I didnt type SLR westy.....have you shot an A R10 though? I'd be happy with either as long as it goes bang, doesnt jam, and shoots generally where its pointed :thumbsup: stuff the rooga, though they are used in combat...



I was talking about semi Autos in genral!!!!
The only one I'd want now days is a Shotgun like a A5 Browning
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by 1290 » 29 Jan 2015, 8:51 am

Jack V wrote:Light bullets loose their velocity faster than a heavier all else being equal. Over the longer distance the lighter bullet would be affected by increasing drag more than a heavier one . If I am shooting in a down poor at 500 metres I am putting my trust in a 338 LM not a 17 HMR .


Only 2 factor determine the trajectory 1) BC and 2)Velocity

Once you're considering those 2 factors, the mass has zero to do with the calculation, guesstimation, or anything else, why? Thanks for asking.... because the BC is a variable in which the mass has already been considered and is a measure of the rate of deceleration resulting from which over time the gravity will determine the vertical position (trajectory)....there are 2 considerations vertical and horizontal that give the position of the bullet in space (and time :P )...

Sound strange but a 204Ruger 40gr Vmax and a 308win 110gr Vmax, if shot at the same velocity will have very similar trajectories given the very similar BC...

So... I reaffirm, with my limited physics knowledge, that it is the momentum of the bullet that will determine the degree to which a projectile is 'buffeted' by the impact of the rain drop, then consider the divergence from its trajectory whether up, down, leeward or windward, is determined by a time factor, ie. over time so thence it will be the velocity that will determine the magnitude of the divergence....slow=more time to move off course?? Yes? No? what you think? anyone who got this far, thanks for reading, most wont see this line.... :D ;)
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Re: Your best shot (skill, fluke, or luck included)

Post by Rocker » 29 Jan 2015, 12:22 pm

1290 wrote:The day will come my friends......The day will come


Waiting with bated breath :D
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