Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

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Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by MalleeFarmer » 28 Jan 2015, 11:48 am

Can I rebarrel in a different caliber legally in Vic do I need a PTA?
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by 1290 » 28 Jan 2015, 1:01 pm

As long as its only the calibre (should read chambering) then its ok, just send the registry an email within 7 days...;

FIREARMS ACT 1996 - SECT 134B

Requirement to notify Chief Commissioner of certain alterations to firearms
A person who alters the calibre of a firearm in a manner not provided for in the original manufacture of the firearm must notify the Chief Commissioner of the alteration within 7 days of doing so.

Penalty: 30 penalty units.

fyi a pu is currently 147.61 (will crack 150 in a few months yay!) so the penalty is up to $4428.30!! ((whats the penalty for exceeding the speed limit by 30k and putting lives at risk??, I digress)
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by MalleeFarmer » 28 Jan 2015, 1:04 pm

Cheers 1290 I'm getting a new 250 so and my .308 is a HB varmint so less than ideal for carrying around!
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Post by 1290 » 28 Jan 2015, 1:12 pm

it would probably cost the same to buy another zasty....
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by Westy » 28 Jan 2015, 1:16 pm

My question is why would you want to ruin a great calibre22-250 and turn it into a s**t one 308????
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by 1290 » 28 Jan 2015, 1:24 pm

Westy wrote:My question is why would you want to ruin a great calibre22-250 and turn it into a s**t one 308????


welllllll because he's in Victoria, you know, the hunters promised land where the deer are plentiful and available to hunt on most public lands .... and you cant (legally) shoot them with an iddy biddy 22.. :unknown:
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by MalleeFarmer » 28 Jan 2015, 1:59 pm

Westy wrote:My question is why would you want to ruin a great calibre22-250 and turn it into a s**t one 308????

Yea and if you read I have a new .22-250 ordered already. And I happen to like the .308 small enough for varmint big enough for everything in Australia maybe only buff might be a stretch and forgiving enough to shoot often and plenty of cheap ammo or projectile options for reloading!
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Post by Westy » 28 Jan 2015, 7:41 pm

MalleeFarmer wrote:
Westy wrote:My question is why would you want to ruin a great calibre22-250 and turn it into a s**t one 308????

Yea and if you read I have a new .22-250 ordered already. And I happen to like the .308 small enough for varmint big enough for everything in Australia maybe only buff might be a stretch and forgiving enough to shoot often and plenty of cheap ammo or projectile options for reloading!

Yea well that showed me then didn't it :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

as for those killer deer in Vic 1290 I thought you yahoo's might have to move up to a 300WM for those :silent: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by MalleeFarmer » 28 Jan 2015, 9:35 pm

Westy wrote:
MalleeFarmer wrote:
Westy wrote:My question is why would you want to ruin a great calibre22-250 and turn it into a s**t one 308????

Yea and if you read I have a new .22-250 ordered already. And I happen to like the .308 small enough for varmint big enough for everything in Australia maybe only buff might be a stretch and forgiving enough to shoot often and plenty of cheap ammo or projectile options for reloading!

Yea well that showed me then didn't it :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

as for those killer deer in Vic 1290 I thought you yahoo's might have to move up to a 300WM for those :silent: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah them killer deer 300wm no good for them have to be a 600NE they're evil buggers!!
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by AusC » 29 Jan 2015, 11:04 am

Assuming your having a gunsmith do it and not DIY?

Store should be able to submit updated details at the time for you over the online system. Then in a week or 2 you get an updated firearm registration cert with the updated chambering.
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Post by Gwion » 30 Jan 2015, 10:31 pm

Good chance to get the action trued up at the same time???
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by beerhog » 31 Jan 2015, 8:18 am

it makes the pta system in Victoria pointless doesn't it. youre pta down here is approved on the basis of what calibre you buy but if you can change calibre down the track to whatever you choose without seeking permission what does it achieve? time to piss pta's and rego off and use the money wasted for something more usefull.
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Post by 1290 » 31 Jan 2015, 9:03 am

The pta system is pointless, but not for this reason.....mainly due to the fact that you've jumped through all the hoops to obtain your firearm licence... then need permission to buy an arm....

The act and regs (and enforcers) have confused calibre and chambering; the pta asks for calibre (=0.22 or 0.223 or 0.224inch or 5.56mm) but expects chambering (223Rem).

So calibre is the 'size of the hole' or size of the bullet, depending on what time of the day it is, so technically if you're re-chambering say 223Rem to 220Sw or 22-250, your not altering the calibre so no notification is required.....

But yes, if you rebarrel your223Rem to 338RCM.... an email to the registrar would cover you. Although, if you wanted to do some robin hood bow drawing; you could maybe argue that the standard manufacture referred to that model of firearm, as opposed to your actual firearm ;)

Another avenue for say, a 338LM, but consider the reason on the original PTA must still apply, else you WILL receive a knock at the door at an inconvenient time.....
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Re: Rebarreling a .22-250 zastava to .308? Law in Vic PTA?

Post by AusC » 31 Jan 2015, 6:29 pm

1290 wrote:So calibre is the 'size of the hole' or size of the bullet, depending on what time of the day it is, so technically if you're re-chambering say 223Rem to 220Sw or 22-250, your not altering the calibre so no notification is required....


It should read "chambering" not "calibre", you're of course right in that respect. But it does continue to say alter the "calibre of a firearm in a manner not provided for in the original manufacture of the firearm.

IMO it's improper to suggest that "techincally" no notification is required. They would surely pull you up for changing the cartridge a firearm accepts - re: the bold text above - regardless of it's calibre (and I use that word correctly here).

I'm sure the OP doesn't want to be arguing the definition of 'calibre' in court in an attempt to get his license and firearms back.

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