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Post by tripletwo » 30 Jan 2015, 12:52 pm

I don't know how old this is now but thought it was awesome so here's sharing :D

One of these anti-vaccine cretins posted the image below, and got the quoted reply in response. Go son!

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You are the worst person.

You can be a vegan and whine at people, thats hurting nobody but when you tell people to not take vaccines, you’re endangering public health.

If YOU mixed mercury, aluminium phosphate, ammonium sulfate, formaldehyde and viruses and injected it into someone, you’d kill someone because you have no pharmacological experience.

If someone in a lab mixed those together, they know how they work, they have medically assessed and peer reviewed evidence and strict guidelines to follow to create a safe and effective product. Why is it legal? Because they know what they’re doing and know how to spell “phosphate” and “ammonium”.

Why don’t YOU educate yourself instead of subscribing to the notion that all scientists are evil and want to poison you are your natural, vegan lifestyle. I say this as a f***ing IMMUNOLOGIST, you are single handedly responsible for the skyrocketing resurgence of deaths caused by TB, measles and the worrying prospect of smallpox returning.

Let’s break this one down and give you some education.

  • Mercury is an element in the compound thiomersal which was part of many vaccines. It has been claimed with NO tangible evidence other than a multifaceted correlation that thiomersals cause autism. This has been investigated thoroughly and no causal link has been found.
  • Aluminium phosphate is an aluminium salt which is used as an adjuvant in vaccines. An adjuvant is a compound which causes an immune response to be higher and stronger, so that the immune system comes into contact with the attenuated virus more, so that it can recognise the antigens of the virus and provide immunity. They are a necessary part of the vaccine if you want it to work well.
  • Ammonium sulfate is used in the process of purifying the proteins in the synthesis of a vaccine. It is also found in bread and flour, so you’d better learn to enjoy rice if you want to avoid it.
  • Formaldehyde is used in the treatment and purification of vaccines and stops contamination. Most of this is removed before the vaccines is shipped, although some remains.

In my personal and scientifically backed opinion, the war against disease is a hundred fold more important than the mum-led war against vaccines. Do you want your child to die a slow, painful, agonising death? If not, then shut the f*** up with your so called “facts” you got from Yahoo Answers and get your kid vaccinated.

I am going to sound derogatory, but if you don’t have formal education in at least biology, you have no role to talk about the way vaccines should be done. You have no idea of the actual function and mechanism in which they work, and you have is a vague knowledge that mercury used to make people mad, formaldehyde is used in embalming and that ammonium sulfate and aluminium phosphate sound scary.

Vaccinate your kids if you want them to live. End of. If you don’t then you clearly don’t love your kids and would prefer to see them die of completely preventable diseases.

This has been a rage filled, alcohol induced response from a scientist.


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Post by Oldbloke » 30 Jan 2015, 2:11 pm

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Post by Arth » 30 Jan 2015, 2:31 pm

Good to see.
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Post by pajamatime » 30 Jan 2015, 2:46 pm

touchy subject tbh
neither for or against but the best way to look at vaccines I have found is to look at the science behind each individual ingredient on a per vaccine basis and then make a decision. the product "vaccine" has its good and bad product based science but essentially that is just corporate science against people science. I personally dont want scientifically proven carcinogenic, Nerotoxic,immunotoxic additives in my body but hey thats just me. This anti against pro battle is completely out of hand and we have lost focus and fallen victim to ideals that make us irrational, thoughtless and naive to the possibility that we may have been tricked into believing something that could be obsolutely false. do we not live in corrupt times?

Lets face it...corporations own science and they can confuse it how ever way they want. I'm a realist and science is far from being secure from the corrupt forces that seek to cover up, protect their bottom lines and push secret agendas etc etc. I think both sides need to stop being idiots and join forces to make a more viable product. Yet you fight, the pros with their Corporate born information backed by billions of dollars and the antis with their peoples and or indepedent science backed by thousands of dollars.
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Post by Jack V » 30 Jan 2015, 3:38 pm

I worked with one of theses anti drug anti vaccine religious people for some years but unfortunately she died of an infection because she refused to take antibiotics as advised by her doctor and the hospital . She left hospital and used herbal medicines instead and died eventually at home.

She was only about 40 years of age .

Too stupid to live.
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Post by Chronos » 30 Jan 2015, 4:58 pm

The majority of the anti vaccine BS comes out of the panic caused by a...Guy, I won't call him a scientise or doctor who falsified results in his study that showed a link between vaccination and autism.

there is no evidence that vaccination has any larger side effects than any other medical treatment. There is however millions of children and adults alive today because of the impact of small pox, measles, rubella, mumps, hep A and B and a half dozen other vaccinations

The NFI morons that tell you not to vaccinate your kids do not have your childs interests at heart. They are the reason we are having mumps and measles outbreaks in sydney this year and when adults start getting sick because our childhood vaccinations have worn off will they pay us for our time off work in quarantine like the guy i work with whos 6yo son bought home whooping cough and gave it to both his parents and his 12 week old little sister?


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Post by Guliver » 30 Jan 2015, 5:25 pm

I'll start by apologising for the language, I don't apologize for the sentiment.


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Post by 1290 » 30 Jan 2015, 5:56 pm

Sorry, sounds like your a bunch of sheeple.... OMG someone doesnt agree with the mandatory government medicating of the population.....hang them in the town square hey...

The guy mis-speld a word...oh did I too?? maybe he doesnt use that word every day big whoopiedoos.

Did any of you agree to be having your drinking water medicated? what about lithium and barium compound being sprayed in the air?? oh dont worry, we're not micro-bigiologistist so we donts need to knows....

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Post by pajamatime » 30 Jan 2015, 6:00 pm

Jack V wrote:I worked with one of theses anti drug anti vaccine religious people for some years but unfortunately she died of an infection because she refused to take antibiotics as advised by her doctor and the hospital . She left hospital and used herbal medicines instead and died eventually at home . She was only about 40 years of age .
To stupid to live.


That is a little bit strange. I guess she didn't rationalise it she just chose to follow a crowd if what you say is really true...I mean lets be realistic plenty of people die from pharmaceutical drugs a year which is on average at least in the hundreds of thousands just in America alone. Ultimately you are all just followers (yes even me to some extent) lol non of what any of you speak is really your idea or belief its someone elses (yeah brainwashing is a real thing). With that said nature has its fair share of Anti biotics that work very well but they can't be patented and milked for profit as well as a patented anti biotic can so its basic maths really. Are Anti biotics either non-patented or patented useful? absolutely! are they over prescribed? absolutely! is that bad? yes!

I'm neither pro or anti pharmaceutical but I have a holistic approuch with a great many things. I will not jump when they tell me to but I'm sure a great many people would ^_^. I like to watch them jump as it proves my point solid =). :drinks:

At the end of the day we are all m8s whether you believe in taking a dump in public toilet or a private toilet thats who you are and what you believe in...good on yah m8!! but the bashing between pro big pharma and Pro Nature has got to stop in the end its nature that big pharma trys so hard to mimic anyway so each to their own. :thumbsup:

1290 wrote:Sorry, sounds like your a bunch of sheeple.... OMG someone doesnt agree with the mandatory government medicating of the population.....hang them in the town square hey...

The guy mis-speld a word...oh did I too?? maybe he doesnt use that word every day big whoopiedoos.

Did any of you agree to be having your drinking water medicated? what about lithium and barium compound being sprayed in the air?? oh dont worry, we're not micro-bigiologistist so we donts need to knows....

sheeple


while I disagree with the way you have approuched this subject, you do bring up a valid point. when I was a child one of my first words was panadol. was I being brainwashed to think taking dangerous drugs all the time and popping pills for all my ailments was good for me? yes. Have we been divided and conqured by corporate interests? Absolutely!

everyone ask yourself this...why do I believe in what I believe? if you do this properly you should meet your maker (the entity/s that helped shape your thoughts)

but as the saying goes...“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
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Post by Jack V » 31 Jan 2015, 9:46 am

When you are sick enough for a Doctor to put you in hospital because you will not follow his advise and then you refuse to follow the advice of the Doctors at the hospital then sigh yourself out on some crazy religious grounds and ultimately die from the illness . I don't think you can justify that in any rational . Oh and she had children to look after , not real young but not adults either and no husband on the scene . I wonder why ?
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Post by Kipper » 31 Jan 2015, 4:14 pm

1290 wrote:Did any of you agree to be having your drinking water medicated?


Are you seriously having a go at fluoride?

Does that cause autism too now? :roll:
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Post by melanie » 31 Jan 2015, 4:50 pm

1290 wrote:Sorry, sounds like your a bunch of sheeple.... OMG someone doesnt agree with the mandatory government medicating of the population...


If we're labelling people and painting with a broad brushes you sound like anti-government leftist hippy.

f*** "The Man", right? Doesn't matter what it's about, just disagree on principle. Whatever it is it's a plot to keep us living in fear and consuming...The tin foil in your hat hasn't worn come loose has it? Wouldn't want them hearing that we're onto them with there mind control vaccination scheme!

Now if we've finished being stupid...

1) Vaccinations are not mandatory in Australia so already you're either showing your ignorance or knowingly ignoring facts so as not to undermine your untenable position.

2) Schools and childcare centres (depending on the state) require vaccination for the protection of all attending children. No one is forcing you to leave your kid at childcare, make other arrangements if you don't want them vaccinated. You wouldn't want them in a Government school learning what they Government says they should either though right? So home school.

You set the rules in your house, right? Someone doesn't like them they can leave. If you don't like the school rules then you leave. Not mandatory.

3) No one is vaccinating their kids because they mistakenly believe it's compulsory, they do it because there is overwhelming empirical evidence that they're life saving.

Not that you'll look them up because it would go against your point of view but diseases like malaria, tuberculosis and measles which have (had..) been all but eradicated in countries with vaccinations still kill hundreds of thousands of people in third world countries without them.

Anyone who disputes this and goes by information they get from 'witty' images that other anti-vaxxers put out on the net does so because of their own phobias or foolishness. And you say people who believe in vaccinations are the sheeple? :roll:
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Post by pajamatime » 31 Jan 2015, 5:10 pm

Kipper wrote:
1290 wrote:Did any of you agree to be having your drinking water medicated?


Are you seriously having a go at fluoride?

Does that cause autism too now? :roll:


no he was refering to something else in particular. The science against fluoride is incredibly strong yet we believe in the science for fluoride which is really weak and inconclusive. I'm kinda glad he brang it up actually this is a perfect example of how naive we are and how easily manipulated the average person can be even with such scientific odds against an ideal. Here is some food for thought...the same guy that convinced us Fluoride was useful, safe and effective for humans was none other then Edward Bernays the king of spin and propaganda who was hired by corporations to do some pretty dirty sh!T.

one of this mans most famous exploits was convincing people that smoking tobacco was good for them back in the Tobacco conspiricy days. =) :thumbsup:
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Post by KWhorenet » 31 Jan 2015, 5:18 pm

@ Melanie +1

@ pajamatime "I mean lets be realistic plenty of people die from pharmaceutical drugs a year which is on average at least in the hundreds of thousands just in America alone."

Can you show me where you got this statistic from. I'm curious about it but my own googling could only find figures that include over doses and even those were no where near plural hundreds of thousands... not even close. Are you plucking a headline which includes all types of drug (prescription and non) deaths?

If it were 300k people per year for example; that's 10% of the population per year :lol: you get my drift. Do you mean 20k including overdoses?
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Post by 1290 » 31 Jan 2015, 5:24 pm

theres Melancholy at the front -
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Post by KWhorenet » 31 Jan 2015, 5:28 pm

1290, you are usually worth a read but wtf is the point of the pic?

Why not throw religion in with the government statement too then.
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Post by pajamatime » 31 Jan 2015, 5:43 pm

KWhorenet wrote:@ Melanie +1

@ pajamatime "I mean lets be realistic plenty of people die from pharmaceutical drugs a year which is on average at least in the hundreds of thousands just in America alone."
Can you show me where you got this statistic from. I'm curious about it but my own googling could only find figures that include over doses and even those were no where near plural hundreds of thousands... not even close. Are you plucking a headline which includes all types of drug (prescription and non) deaths?

If it were 300k people per year for example; that's 10% of the population per year lol you get my drift. Do you mean 20k including overdoses?


yeah I get your drift m8. Actually I'm glad you brang it up! that average figure is around 100k a year and its based more on main stream medical deaths which does include pharmaceuticals. Statistics do fluctuate...it might be less it might be more? on average pharmaceutical drugs related death has been recorded to land between 20k-40k a year in America alone.

yes some of those would include patients not taking proper dosages of meds. But thats beside the point really...I was just referring to the toxic nature of pharmaceutical drugs and how we need to excercise more caution with them and not reject other forms of medicine. That and for someone to say someone died because they didn't take anti biotics is a bit of a stretch considering the only real information they had was that they did not take the anti biotics in the first place. In other words she died and it was suggested because she did not take the anti biotics that this occured but we really don't know. For all we know she had a severly suppressed immune system? or maybe she was dying from the toxic effects of chemotherapy? Some plants can kill to? lol

edit: hopefully you can respect my position on this, I'm not in favour of pro's or anti's I'm just trying to assist people that its important that a balanced mindset be obtained instead of going for one extreme over the other if you know what I mean? Allot of people are attacking the Anti vaccine peeps and really hitting hard considering they to some degree have a point. Balance, critical thinking we need them! but so many people struggle with this lol.
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Post by pajamatime » 31 Jan 2015, 6:15 pm

melanie wrote:
1290 wrote:Sorry, sounds like your a bunch of sheeple.... OMG someone doesnt agree with the mandatory government medicating of the population...


If we're labelling people and painting with a broad brushes you sound like anti-government leftist hippy.

f*** "The Man", right? Doesn't matter what it's about, just disagree on principle. Whatever it is it's a plot to keep us living in fear and consuming...The tin foil in your hat hasn't worn come loose has it? Wouldn't want them hearing that we're onto them with there mind control vaccination scheme!

Now if we've finished being stupid...

1) Vaccinations are not mandatory in Australia so already you're either showing your ignorance or knowingly ignoring facts so as not to undermine your untenable position.

2) Schools and childcare centres (depending on the state) require vaccination for the protection of all attending children. No one is forcing you to leave your kid at childcare, make other arrangements if you don't want them vaccinated. You wouldn't want them in a Government school learning what they Government says they should either though right? So home school.

You set the rules in your house, right? Someone doesn't like them they can leave. If you don't like the school rules then you leave. Not mandatory.

3) No one is vaccinating their kids because they mistakenly believe it's compulsory, they do it because there is overwhelming empirical evidence that they're life saving.

Not that you'll look them up because it would go against your point of view but diseases like malaria, tuberculosis and measles which have (had..) been all but eradicated in countries with vaccinations still kill hundreds of thousands of people in third world countries without them.

Anyone who disputes this and goes by information they get from 'witty' images that other anti-vaxxers put out on the net does so because of their own phobias or foolishness. And you say people who believe in vaccinations are the sheeple? :roll:



I do believe that is very questionable data you are relating to, vaccines do not have a 100% success rate so how do you know its not being put out there to protect the product and the practic(and the bottom line)? All I see is hype to encourage sales and uptake. So many varibles in play how do we know the vaccines had anything to do with it...the human immune system is far more capable and complex then our pharmaceutical buddies give it credit for considering after all they have so much to gain by making us think the human body can't function correctly without their precious products. A much more realistic statement would be something along the lines of..."vaccination could potentially assist the immune system in irradicating a virus but its not a Miracle in a vial and it can and has failed to work in the past but we hope it works for you" lol

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Post by Kipper » 02 Feb 2015, 9:25 am

pajamatime wrote:The science against fluoride is incredibly strong yet we believe in the science for fluoride which is really weak and inconclusive.


"The science against fluoride is incredibly strong"

Evidence such as?
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Post by melanie » 02 Feb 2015, 9:33 am

1290 wrote:theres Melancholy at the front


So that's your second post where you neither addressed the substance of the argument of provided anything of substance yourself.

As it stands the entirety of your argument against vaccines is "people are sheeple".

Not one fact, figure, study, or even a plausible assertion or theory provided. Just name calling.

Don't join a debate team champ, you'll just make a fool of yourself.
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Post by redrum » 02 Feb 2015, 9:35 am

KWhorenet wrote:1290, you are usually worth a read but wtf is the point of the pic?


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The subject has struck a nerve obviously :lol:
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Post by KWhorenet » 02 Feb 2015, 10:05 am

redrum wrote:
KWhorenet wrote:1290, you are usually worth a read but wtf is the point of the pic?


:unknown:

The subject has struck a nerve obviously :lol:


Why do you say "obviously" ?

The only thing that strikes a nerve is people pre judging others and thinking they are all knowing high and mighty.
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Post by melanie » 02 Feb 2015, 10:35 am

pajamatime wrote:I do believe that is very questionable data you are relating to, vaccines do not have a 100% success rate so how do you know its not being put out there to protect the product and the practic(and the bottom line)? All I see is hype to encourage sales and uptake. So many varibles in play how do we know the vaccines had anything to do with it...the human immune system is far more capable and complex then our pharmaceutical buddies give it credit for considering after all they have so much to gain by making us think the human body can't function correctly without their precious products. A much more realistic statement would be something along the lines of..."vaccination could potentially assist the immune system in irradicating a virus but its not a Miracle in a vial and it can and has failed to work in the past but we hope it works for you" lol

edit: btw don't hate me, you're all awesome peeps! :friends:


No hate. Happy to have a mature conversation with folks of different opinions. Certain people appear incapable of that on this subject however...

On your comments:

1) I never said vaccines have a 100% success rate (nor has anyone else I've ever seen in favour of them while we're on the subject).

2) We're of course not talking about "the" vaccine here. There are many diseases which modern medicine has have varying levels of success in immunizing against.

3) There are different vaccines with varying levels of efficacy, benefits or potential risk. The risk range from significant, to minimal to all but not existant.

4) That "the human immune system is far more capable and complex then our pharmaceutical buddies give it credit for" is irrelevant for this conversation. Acknowledging the capabilities of the immune system while burying our heads in the sand over it's short comings and weaknesses is not a solution, that hundreds of thousands of people are infected of and die of diseases, both preventable and unpreventable each year is a testament to this. As I was not asserting that vaccines are 100%, I'm sure you're not foolish enough to assert that the human immune system is 100% either.

5) People with existing diseases or compromised immune systems may not benefit in the same way, or at all from vaccines, or be prevented entirely from being given them as can be the case with attenuated vaccines.

6) Regarding your comment "A much more realistic statement would be something along the lines of..."vaccination could potentially assist the immune system in irradicating a virus but its not a Miracle in a vial and it can and has failed to work in the past but we hope it works for you"

While you've phrased that in a reasonably flexible way I would say you've greatly understated facts to tip things in favour of your view point. I would say a more realist statement is "in the majority of cases vaccination provides great assistants to the immune system in inoculating against or reducing the risk of catching a disease and it's severity."

As above, no one said ALL vaccines are 100% safe and proven. Anyone who does gives themselves as little credibility as those who argue ALL vaccines are bad or unnecessary.

On a case by case basis it's perfectly reasonable to research (looking up memes on the net doesn't count) and seek medical advice on a particular vaccines. Find out the pros and cons, risks and benefits, and decide if you will or won't proceed.

It's an imperfect situation, but ultimately people have to come down on one side or the other. You're vaccinated or you're not, you will vaccinate your kids, or you wont. There is no fence sitting position. On balance, vaccination does great good while acknowledging it's shortcomings (assuming you can have a rational conversation) and is backed by scientifically proven and empirical evidence.

A staunch 'anti-vaccination' policy against anything and everything does harm and is backed by anecdotal evidence at best.

I doubt 99.99% of the staunch anti-vaxxers have ever been anywhere near the worst parts Africa or South East Asia (I have) and seen first hand the diseases the vaccinations they're fighting against could prevent. I suspect their opinions would changed if they ever did. But life is good in the burbs, right? Better to argue their case from the safety and comfort of home.

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Post by redrum » 02 Feb 2015, 10:44 am

KWhorenet wrote:Why do you say "obviously" ?

The only thing that strikes a nerve is people pre judging others and thinking they are all knowing high and mighty.


Jumping straight to the name calling is usually a good indicator :lol:
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Post by KWhorenet » 02 Feb 2015, 11:18 am

redrum wrote:
KWhorenet wrote:Why do you say "obviously" ?

The only thing that strikes a nerve is people pre judging others and thinking they are all knowing high and mighty.


Jumping straight to the name calling is usually a good indicator :lol:


Name calling? What are you going on about. I haven't directed anything at you so bugger off.

edit; I get it now, I just struck a nerve with you without meaning to. Sorry for your complex. Are you often called out for being all knowing high and mighty or just a religious freak?
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Post by brett1868 » 02 Feb 2015, 11:47 am

I'm pro vaccine and my wife is anti, we have a child and the vaccination debate raged on in our household for some days. In the end as parents we are basically gambling on the childs health which is not a position parents want to be in. The risk of catching a desease and it's consequences from not being vaccinated were too high for our liking so the boy was vaccinated (+ I can yell louder then my wife).
It's a decision we are now happy we made and my wife has softened her stance as there have been a number of letters from his school (as required by law) of deseases such as whooping cough and measles doing the rounds. Immunisation is no guarantee he won't catch them but at least he's got better chance of not getting sick compared to the kids who won't immunised.
The immune system is quite amazing but the only way to strenghen it is to use it, immunisation is exercise for immunity same as excercising your body.

Possibly the best thing about getting the boy immunised is that you get another page of data to post in his owners manual :)
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Post by pajamatime » 02 Feb 2015, 12:29 pm

Kipper wrote:"The science against fluoride is incredibly strong"

Evidence such as?


no offense but I'm not going to do the research for you its a journey we must all take for to much to quick can cause a severe rejection of that which is being presented. With that said it is a information war...you get the science against a product and then you get a protective reaction trying to discredit said science. its a never ending game of cat and mouse to be honest.
I want people to do away with their cognitive dissonance and be aware that science can be payed for and that science is far from being secure from corruption and manipulation only then can we really be reasonable about all this information we are being given from both sides of the camp.

it is a well known and observed fact among those that observe the game being played that the entities being regulated are regulating the regulators (also known as regulative capture) lol
we really need not even argue about whos right or wrong, its about excercising our higher functions like critical thinking among others and seeing the big picture. Essentially the powers that be contruct our reality to suit them and their agenda but when someone challenges said contruct with truth they beat it to the ground, discredit it and then let the status quo take care of the rest.

I think none of us want to be taken for a fool right? I sit on fences =D

I gave a really big clue, and potentially a really good starting point. The king of propaganda and spin Edward Bernays who to be honest I think is brilliant at what he does and by god he does it well.
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Re: Anti-vaccine cretin gets schooled

Post by Kipper » 03 Feb 2015, 7:49 am

pajamatime wrote:no offense but I'm not going to do the research for you...


You're not going to do it "for me"? :lol:

You've got it backwards mate. It's your assertion, your burden of proof.

I'm not doing the research for you.

I guess we'll leave it at that.
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Re: Anti-vaccine cretin gets schooled

Post by redrum » 03 Feb 2015, 7:54 am

KWhorenet wrote:Name calling? What are you going on about. I haven't directed anything at you so bugger off.

edit; I get it now, I just struck a nerve with you without meaning to. Sorry for your complex. Are you often called out for being all knowing high and mighty or just a religious freak?


:huh

WTF are you talking about? I meant struck a nerve with 1290... Which I said in response to your question to him, quoting him and you...

Did you follow the conversation or read one line and assume it was an attack on you?

Calm down and read what people write before you have your tanty :roll:
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